| minute | ckeen: sorry, i will update the link | 00:00 |
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| ckeen | (and I do hope that there's room on the pocket reform to have the boot switch more accessible... | 00:03 |
| ckeen | ) | 00:03 |
| ckeen | also before I mess up my system with more manual work, is there a better way to upgrade from the first system image to the latest? I have already grown my /home on the nvme quite a bit so I don't want to loose that data... | 00:06 |
| minute | if you have system image v2, there is no automated clean way to get to a v3 image, sorry | 00:07 |
| minute | if you are already on v3, you can just apt upgrade | 00:07 |
| ckeen | so I guess flashing an up to date rescue system, adding the newer debian repo and doing apt update/upgrade should be OK... | 00:09 |
| minute | you also need to delete all libraries and binaries in /usr/local/ that might be there | 00:10 |
| minute | as v2 used that | 00:10 |
| ckeen | ok | 00:11 |
| minute | v2 had custom mesa, xwayland, sway and so on in /usr/local, this will interfere with stuff you get via apt upgrade | 00:12 |
| minute | in v3 these are cleanly integrated | 00:13 |
| ckeen | I am really really happy with this laptop it has been really fun to use it, so thanks for all your hours poured into this, it is appreciated | 00:13 |
| minute | thanks, glad to hear it! | 00:13 |
| ckeen | I already put the main sources for apt to sid for a while so I already ran into that I guess | 00:13 |
| ckeen | also I need to think of a way to stabilize the keyboard PCB a bit at the bottom where the space keys are, it bends down quite a bit when you press it hard | 00:16 |
| minute | i made a release here (on top) that contains the link to the latest image, always: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/releases | 00:16 |
| ckeen | thanks minute! | 00:18 |
| vkoskiv_ | What are the hid bind/unbind steps in the reform-standby script for? | 00:37 |
| minute | making sure the input devices come back in a working state | 00:38 |
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| Boostisbetter | ckeen: I guess the question I'd have regarding your keyboard PCB flex: why would you be pressing that hard on the space bar. I mean I looked on my Reform and I don't see any flex when just pushing the spacebar normally. It flexes a little bit if I wham it down, but i mean, why would I be doing that? | 12:35 |
| Boostisbetter | That said, I'm interested in what you find to stabilize it more. | 12:35 |
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| Kooda | I can’t reproduce the flex either, weird | 15:23 |
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| cinap_lenrek | something's seriously wrong with my board | 17:29 |
| cinap_lenrek | i got the replacement batteries today | 17:29 |
| cinap_lenrek | when i connected the battery cables to the mainboard, something smelled burned | 17:30 |
| cinap_lenrek | i disconnected the cables again | 17:30 |
| cinap_lenrek | theres nothing visually burned on the board tho | 17:30 |
| cinap_lenrek | the mainboard also still works fine | 17:31 |
| cinap_lenrek | unrelated | 17:31 |
| cinap_lenrek | when i tried to remove the barrery cells again | 17:32 |
| cinap_lenrek | i must have caused a short somehow too | 17:32 |
| cinap_lenrek | but this was while the battery modules where disconnected from the mainboard | 17:32 |
| cinap_lenrek | this happend with both battery carriers | 17:32 |
| cinap_lenrek | i have two traces there that seem burned now | 17:32 |
| cinap_lenrek | worst day | 17:32 |
| cinap_lenrek | i have no idea how this can happen by just mechanically removing the cells | 17:33 |
| cinap_lenrek | with nothing connected | 17:33 |
| josch | cinap_lenrek: it's this problem: https://community.mnt.re/t/isolating-battery-clips/962 | 17:34 |
| cinap_lenrek | ah, okay | 17:39 |
| cinap_lenrek | i guess i can fix this | 17:40 |
| cinap_lenrek | but i'm more worried about my board starting to smell burned as soon as i connect the batteries :( | 17:40 |
| cinap_lenrek | this is something i can't fix | 17:40 |
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| cinap_lenrek | actually | 17:58 |
| cinap_lenrek | R32 seems burned | 17:58 |
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| cinap_lenrek | with my multimeter, i measure like 5.2ohm for all the other R25-R31 | 18:07 |
| cinap_lenrek | and R32 is like not a resistor anymore | 18:07 |
| Boostisbetter | minute: is the crowd funding page not live yet because you are still working on levels and options? Just curious not rushing. | 18:11 |
| cinap_lenrek | are these the discharge resistors? | 18:11 |
| vkoskiv_ | Still haven't had suspend fail even once. | 18:11 |
| josch | vkoskiv_: what's your secret??? XD | 18:12 |
| vkoskiv_ | I dunno. Before it just didn't work at all, now it seems 100% :D | 18:12 |
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| cinap_lenrek | are these special resistor parts? | 18:44 |
| cinap_lenrek | also how can this part become burned? | 18:48 |
| vagrantc | ACTION wonders about using linux-image-arm64-mntre rather than linux-immage-arm64 to avoid conflicts with debian's linux-image-arm64 | 18:56 |
| vagrantc | also sounded like there was some progress just using debian's kernel? | 19:00 |
| josch | vagrantc: there was progress insofar that I now know what breaks :) | 19:09 |
| josch | vagrantc: the reason I re-used the linux-immage-arm64 name is, that my hope is that our patches will be merged upstream at some point. If that happens, then users don't need to do anything to move to the stock kernel as we just remove our version from our repo. | 19:10 |
| vagrantc | josch: well, you could always release linux-image-arm64-mntre -> linux-image-arm64 when that happens | 19:13 |
| vagrantc | but i guess i'm an oddball, in that the only package i have from mntre is linux-image-arm64, and so i mark it on hold | 19:14 |
| vagrantc | oh, and flash-kernel ... but maybe we can fix that too | 19:15 |
| minute | cinap_lenrek: these are just big resistors for balancing, yep. i've seen some failures of these. fortunately they are quite easy to resolder | 19:22 |
| cinap_lenrek | yeah | 19:23 |
| cinap_lenrek | i'll talk to a collegue at work | 19:23 |
| cinap_lenrek | i dont trust myself with that solder job | 19:23 |
| cinap_lenrek | i just fear that theres something else broken to cause that resistor to destroy itself | 19:24 |
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| vagrantc | hrm. source.mnt.re doesn't appear to be allowing me to log in, asking me to confirm email, but never actually sends the confirmation mail | 19:30 |
| vagrantc | no sign of it hitting my mail server or anything | 19:31 |
| minute | cinap_lenrek: it can happen through short on battery board i think | 19:33 |
| vagrantc | was hoping to glance at the flash-kernel patch | 19:33 |
| minute | vagrantc: do you need to login to see patches?! | 19:33 |
| vagrantc | ACTION finds via /explore | 19:33 |
| minute | normally not | 19:33 |
| vkoskiv_ | ACTION about to flash some kbd fw :3 | 19:34 |
| vagrantc | i didn't remember the URL ... going to source.mnt.re redirects to login | 19:34 |
| vagrantc | minute: regardless, my account was confirmed a while back, but for some reason it's requiring me to re-confirm ... | 19:34 |
| minute | vagrantc: ping me tomorrow, i can look into it | 19:35 |
| vagrantc | sure | 19:35 |
| vagrantc | seems like it attempted to send after clickign on the old expired confirmation link, the resend link appears to be working | 19:36 |
| vagrantc | ah, the flash kernel patch is submitted as https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/flash-kernel/-/merge_requests/33 ... for which there is no clearly correct solution | 19:39 |
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| vagrantc | hrm. or split flash-kernel into multiple packages, as it does too much | 19:46 |
| josch | vagrantc: the patched flash kernel is also not for installing on the reform | 20:07 |
| josch | vagrantc: the patched flash-kernel is for the CI to create a boot.scr -- on the reform itself we don't need that patch | 20:07 |
| vagrantc | sure | 20:08 |
| vagrantc | so you're saying i could switch to the debian package of flash-kernel too :) | 20:08 |
| vagrantc | minute: fwiw, my login issue seems resolved now! | 20:09 |
| vagrantc | ACTION comments on a few merge requests | 20:09 |
| sknebel | assembling my machine right now: am I missing a step to secure the plexi antenna holder thing? | 20:34 |
| cinap_lenrek | okay | 21:00 |
| cinap_lenrek | fixed the battery carriers | 21:00 |
| cinap_lenrek | and electic taped the metal contacts that could lead to short | 21:00 |
| Boostisbetter | sknebel: if you mounted it on the keyboard and mouse connectors then you are good. It will shift slightly when moving the Reform but it is nothing. I suppose if it really bothers you, you could use some kind of tape to keep it from moving. | 21:06 |
| sknebel | Boostisbetter: yeah, the antenna cables add more stiffness than I thought at first | 21:06 |
| sknebel | thx for confirming though :) | 21:07 |
| josch | vagrantc: yes, installing the debian package of flash-kernel on the reform should not change anything | 21:13 |
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| sknebel-reform | tada | 21:23 |
| josch | congrats!! :) | 21:26 |
| Boostisbetter | very nice sknebel-reform! Welcome to the team! | 21:45 |
| sknebel-reform | thx | 21:54 |
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