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| _E | minute: the repaired motherboard just booted back up to the login screen | 00:06 |
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| _E | did lose one of the plastic standoffs for the heatsink at some point, but I'm not terribly concerned about it | 00:07 |
| jfred | Aw man, I think I might have killed one of my cells again :( | 00:25 |
| jfred | Thought I was safe because the battery meter reported 20% or so, but then it powered off and now won’t charge with one of the cells showing 2.3 V | 00:26 |
| jfred | Time to hunt down my external charger again to see which cells are salvageable | 00:28 |
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| jfred | I’m not sure it actually got down to 2.3 V, multimeter showed 3.0 V for the lowest one and I think the external charger will be able to bring it back (phew) | 00:38 |
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| chartreuse | Will be nice to upgrade to the improved battery board when that's released. Hoping I can revive my really dead ones (getting an 18650 holder in shortly so I can more easilly do a very slow trickle charge | 00:59 |
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| chartreuse | 2.3 is probably fine and should be able to come back | 00:59 |
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| _E | fedora status report! despite the disastrous events during the prior attempt, the base system does in fact work | 17:28 |
| _E | there are rough some edges pending investigation: Xorg fails to launch, krita has numerous issues (R/G channels swapped during first launch, then an empty window on subsequent launches) | 17:31 |
| eery | Not sure why, but the startx script and launching X11 sessions through GDM doesn't work on Reform with Fedora, but xinit is fine | 17:42 |
| eery | assuming those override manual Xorg configuration somehow | 17:42 |
| _E | eery: I tried plain ol' `Xorg` from a vt to see what happened, and it logged the same issue as from GDM | 17:47 |
| + chomwitt (~chomwitt@2a02:587:dc09:3900:23d6:30eb:ebe5:2f08) | 17:48 | |
| eery | Did you manually configure X to use the modesetting driver on the right DRI interface? | 17:48 |
| _E | eery: nope, this was using absolutely no manual configuration (at 3AM last night...) | 17:49 |
| eery | I don't know if there's a better technique, but I've been using https://mntre.com/media/tech_notes_md/2018-11-19-using-modesetting-with-etnaviv.html as a base | 17:50 |
| eery | on i.mx8 you'll need to use /dev/dri/card2 | 17:50 |
| _E | hmm, I'll give that a shot in a few | 17:52 |
| _E | out of curiosity, how'd you get fedora running? | 17:52 |
| eery | Created two ext4 partitions on a GPT-formated SD card, rsync'ed the contents of the workstation raw image to the big partition, put my kernel + initramfs on the boot partition, and used the gentoo wiki to help create the boot.scr file + flash u-boot | 17:56 |
| eery | and modified /etc/fstab with the right UUIDs | 17:56 |
| eery | that done, it actually boots up and runs through all the gnome setup stuff flawlessly, which surprised me a bit | 17:57 |
| _E | ah, nice | 17:57 |
| eery | doesn't seem to need some of the manual fixes like forcing NIR shaders, not sure why | 17:58 |
| _E | mine was a little more roundabout, using the system image (plus a tweaked kernel) as a trampoline to load off NVMe | 17:58 |
| eery | it took me several attempts a few months ago to get different distros booting, but once you grok u-boot it isn't so bad | 18:01 |
| eery | Unfortunate that the u-boot output doesn't currently appear on the internal display, but AFAIK it shows over HDMI (?) | 18:01 |
| eery | and I think a few people are working on bringing up the internal display in u-boot | 18:02 |
| _E | I like the bit of added safety the trampoline method offers, since it can easily fail back to the system image if something goes wrong | 18:03 |
| eery | As an aside, I wanna try putting Petitboot on the internal MMC storage | 18:05 |
| eery | or something else kexec'y | 18:06 |
| - qwer (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~qwer@37-48-8-99.nat.epc.tmcz.cz) | 18:06 | |
| _E | hmm, no luck with modesetting | 18:07 |
| eery | How'd you try starting X? And what kernel are you running? | 18:08 |
| _E | GDM, Xorg, xinit, startx | 18:11 |
| _E | the kernel's a bit old, 5.12.0 from the system image (circa jan. 20) | 18:12 |
| _E | but with a lot of stuff pulled out as modules and some extra options enabled | 18:13 |
| eery | and what exactly do you mean by trampoline? I assume chroot or something similar, but not sure | 18:13 |
| _E | yeah, just a chroot | 18:13 |
| _E | stock uboot launches the system image, the `reform-init` script sees if there's a bootable image on NVMe, and chroots if possible | 18:14 |
| _E | there's a bind mount to make sure the modules are available inside the chroot, but that's about it | 18:15 |
| eery | well, I'm running 5.17, so there's one difference | 18:15 |
| _E | my reform's been out of commission for a few months for repairs, so that's to be expected | 18:16 |
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| Boostisbetter | eery, wow, you are on 5.17? I'm on 5.12+ right on my Reform | 18:17 |
| _E | oh no, the reform system image got revamped | 18:19 |
| _E | adios, kernel build patches | 18:20 |
| eery | I'm pretty sure I'm using the kernel from the v3 sysimage, but honestly I've just had a single boot partition and have played with a few distros on the same kernel+initramfs so I've forgotten where I got this | 18:23 |
| + mlarkin (~mlarkin@047-048-086-214.biz.spectrum.com) | 18:25 | |
| eery | the official distro is definitely the least painful overall, but I've been pretty impressed with Fedora on Reform | 18:25 |
| eery | stuff like Chromium using wayland by default, libvirt/qemu/edk being configured correctly OOTB so running aarch64 VMs is point-and-click | 18:26 |
| Boostisbetter | Really? I like Fedora, but I have to be honest that I kind of prefer Debian's pace. I prefer rock solid stability to cutting edge. Still that Fedora can offer that Edge in such a stable way is impressive. | 18:26 |
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| eery | Yeah, debian's stability is nice, though Sid is ... painful, and there are enough missing + old-ish packages to make Fedora more appealing to me | 18:30 |
| eery | don't remember exactly what but there were some programs in the MNT sysimage which aren't in the debian repos but are in fedora's | 18:31 |
| _E | welp, I've completely lost track of how the kernel is built for the system image | 18:35 |
| + chomwitt (~chomwitt@2a02:587:dc09:3900:f527:3ca7:b122:fd0c) | 18:37 | |
| eery | I think all the custom patches were upstreamed to the Debian kernel's repo? | 18:42 |
| bkeys | eery: You got Fedora on the Reform? | 18:47 |
| eery | bkeys: Yup, I've been running 36 Workstation for about a week and so far it's been a straight improvement from Void | 18:49 |
| bkeys | That is cool to hear, my Reform is getting repaired but I was trying to get Fedora mainline on there without the v3 kernel I want to see how well it works | 18:50 |
| eery | So far no fedora specific problems (still the usual hiccups with etnaviv and being limited to OGL 2.1), and in general the software in the repos works well | 18:52 |
| eery | A fully upgraded install with some unecessary cruft (UEFI and the like) stripped out was a little less than 4GB I think, and that's with Gnome and everything | 18:53 |
| eery | I'm most impressed that libvirt/virt-manager works OOTB, and I was able to just boot UEFI Aarch64 images in a VM with no manual config | 18:54 |
| eery | that's probably a qemu update and not fedora specific, though | 18:54 |
| eery | for a while I had to change some obscure CPU option in qemu to get EDK to fully load | 18:55 |
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