2022-08-06.log

Boostisbetterjosch: does the Debian crew do much work on the libinput package? Specifically trackpad behavior and the like? 00:26
joschBoostisbetter: depends what you call "much work". The package seems to be in a very good state and up-to-date with https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/libinput/libinput/ but we ship libinput without any patches.00:28
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minutestrange, there is a debian packaging problem... libradare2-5.0.0 actually contains 5.5.000:31
minuteand thus radare2-cutter's `Cutter` can't launch (misses the 5.0.0 version)00:31
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joschminute: https://bugs.debian.org/100917300:33
minutejosch: oh ah, thanks! 00:35
minutenot getting any attention huh00:36
joschit's likely that radare2 will be removed from Debian. Not only does the radare2 developer refuse to offer security support (there are 36 open CVEs: https://bugs.debian.org/1014478) but they even started a competition that encourages people to exploit this called PwnDebian00:38
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Asmadeusalso cutter was developped by people who forked to rizin afaik, so it'd make more sense to use with that.. but it doesn't seem to be packaged in debian either14:58
minuteaha?15:17
_Ethanks for taking care of the motherboard, minute et al15:26
minute_E: sure thing!15:28
_Emakes me think I should invest some time in learning SMD work, though15:28
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vkoskivI plugged in apple TRRS headphones, but I get no audio from the mic.16:04
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vkoskivFrom the schematic I see that it does support TRRS but I'm not sure if the apple ones are wired correctly16:09
vkoskivApple headphones do use CTIA but it's somehow weird16:11
Boostisbettervkoskiv, that is odd, because they worked for me on my Reform16:12
BoostisbetterI was able to make Dino audio calls using them16:12
vkoskivI just get no audio out of 'em16:13
vkoskivSound out is fine, but no audio from mic.16:13
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Boostisbetterdid you select the input source when opening the sound options. I forget the name of it. Push mnt + shift + V16:20
Boostisbetterthen click on the input tab16:20
Boostisbetterand make sure you have it selected. 16:20
Boostisbetterand that you have the volume up on it. 16:24
BoostisbetterThe default levels are just not high enough. 16:24
vkoskivI checked both. No audio coming in even16:32
vkoskivI'm throwing more hardware at the problem. I walked to a booth, bought a TRRS splitter and a rando USB audio card16:33
minutevkoskiv: the mic is tricky16:43
minutesometimes it doesn't work because some switch is not correct in the alsa driver and pulseaudio can't show you that16:43
Boostisbetteryeah I guess I just got lucky, but the apple headphones I have in my work locker have just always worked with the Reform. I was very surprised and happy about it. 16:44
minuteso you can only mess around with alsamixer16:44
Boostisbetterthen again, I think I did increase the gain in alsamixer as well as in the pavucontrol16:44
minuteit's possible that we broke the mic in sysimage v3... it required a special pulseaudio profile to work16:45
minuteif you have sth like stereo output in pavucontrol "Configuration" tab under Profile, it's not gonna work. only with the "MNT Reform" profile16:46
joschindeed i didn't try plugging in a mic yet but i tried my best not to break that pulseaudio configuration. It's shipped with reform-tools these days: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-tools/-/blob/main/audio/analog-input-reform.conf16:46
minuteah nice16:46
minutei see that i don't have that anymore because i've personally migrated to pipewire16:47
vkoskivI don't see an mnt reform profile in pavu16:47
minutevkoskiv: do you have pipewire or pulseaudio running?16:47
vkoskivPulseaudio yes, pipewire no idea16:47
minuteps auxw | grep pipe16:48
vkoskivpipewire is running, yeah16:48
minutepipewire-pulse?16:48
vkoskivjust pipewire and pipewire-media-session16:48
minutethen that's the reason, i haven't spent time on making the mic work with pipewire16:48
minutebut usb audio is a good option16:49
vkoskivYeah, setting that up16:49
vkoskivI've been wanting a trrs splitter and usb audio thing anyway for other stuff16:49
vkoskivNow trouble is that mumble can't have ptt on sway :D16:50
vkoskivBut making progress16:50
vkoskivThere is some way to trick sway into sending messages to do it16:50
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vkoskivI give up. I'd have to compile mumble manually and their build doesn't work17:07
joschvkoskiv: yes, mumble also fails to build in Debian and as of now will not be part of the next stable release because of this: https://bugs.debian.org/100571917:22
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grubmanwill the ls1028a have ECC memory? the page here mentions "ECC" but i guess that just means the cortex a72 supports it? https://source.mnt.re/reform/mnt-reform-layerscape-ls1028a-som22:20
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