| smj | stream archive is here: | 00:20 |
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| smj | https://toobnix.org/w/axWU2PbZp5jM8GYsaAYMMz | 00:20 |
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| mjw | forward to 0:16:30 for the actual start | 00:58 |
| smj | ty mjw, I'll edit it properly and repost. | 01:50 |
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| mjw | smj, thanks for recording it, I had never seen plan9 | 02:27 |
| smj | np, I think its a really good fit for the MNT reform | 02:28 |
| mjw | you are a little harsh on poor little GNU/Linux though. I am happily using it to do development on my mnt reform. It isn't that slow :) | 02:28 |
| smj | Yes, I tried to catch myself from being negative. I didn't mention 'dietpi' and things like that, maybe a more purpose built distro will be better. | 02:30 |
| mjw | It helps to run sway and not a full gnome desktop. | 02:31 |
| smj | agreed I like light weight window managers too | 02:31 |
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| - mtm (QUIT: Ping timeout: 245 seconds) (~mtm@c-73-27-62-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) | 14:04 | |
| bkeys | josch: So when you had Debian with EFI, were there any issues with kernel support on the hardware? | 14:26 |
| josch | bkeys: kernel support? there shouldn't be a difference how the kernel is booted in terms of what it supports. | 14:29 |
| bkeys | That's good so hopefully the Fedora kernel will be the same and no custom kernel would be needed | 14:29 |
| josch | bkeys: you will have to apply some patches that are not merged mainline yet | 14:31 |
| josch | or otherwise your display will not come up | 14:31 |
| josch | https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/tree/main/linux/patches | 14:31 |
| bkeys | Well Fedora has a guide on how to build a custom kernel. But I should get a TTY on the serial port, right? | 14:33 |
| josch | bkeys: yes, without it you cannot see why u-boot might not do the right thing out of the box :) | 14:33 |
| bkeys | josch: Does the current sysimage use the EFI stuff at all? | 14:37 |
| josch | bkeys: no, you have to flash the image i linked you to yesterday | 14:38 |
| bkeys | minute: They didn't say what was wrong with it. I plan on sending an email and asking | 14:40 |
| bkeys | They did a really good job of shipping it so that it wouldn't be damaged. Good sized box with molded sytrofoam and the whole Reform was in a anti-static bag | 14:40 |
| bkeys | josch: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-boundary-uboot/-/merge_requests/8 this one? | 14:41 |
| josch | depends what you want to do | 14:42 |
| bkeys | atm I just want EFI but I don't know where the SD card that had the sysimage on the Reform was | 14:42 |
| bkeys | atm I am on mainline Fedora on this pinebook pro still | 14:42 |
| josch | if you just want to try out distro_bootcmd use this one: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-boundary-uboot/-/jobs/809/artifacts/browse | 14:42 |
| bkeys | Yep, distroboot + mainline Fedora | 14:43 |
| josch | it would be nice if you could build your own u-boot with this patch and make sure that indeed the saveenv command doesn't work anymore: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-boundary-uboot/-/merge_requests/8 | 14:43 |
| josch | lastly, because you messed up your environment by using saveenc, the following patch might help you because (if it works) this will ignore the environment that you previously saved: http://paste.debian.net/1248948/ | 14:44 |
| bkeys | Yeah let me get the set up going again and get my bearings, this thing has been in the repair shop for 4 weeks | 14:48 |
| bkeys | Man it feels good knowing this thing can get repaired | 14:48 |
| josch | bkeys: I turned the last link into a MR: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-boundary-uboot/-/merge_requests/9 | 14:54 |
| bkeys | I'm trying to set up the serial connection | 14:56 |
| bkeys | I cannot remember which of the 2 pins give me serial | 14:56 |
| bkeys | Oh, my SD card isn't in | 14:57 |
| bkeys | Still nothing | 14:57 |
| bkeys | What was the parameters on dd that I need to use on flash.bin? | 14:58 |
| bkeys | bs=1k seek=33 | 14:59 |
| bkeys | For now I will boot the old sysimage I have already downloaded as a sanity check | 15:02 |
| josch | bkeys: dd if=flash.bin of=/dev/mmcblk0 conv=notrunc bs=1k seek=33 | 15:02 |
| bkeys | It has the appearance that I am getting no serial output | 15:03 |
| josch | bkeys: maybe try switching RX and TX? | 15:04 |
| bkeys | I am | 15:04 |
| josch | Sometimes the labels on the UART adapter are turned around and then it makes sense to try both options. | 15:05 |
| josch | But your system boots otherwise? | 15:05 |
| bkeys | No so far and nothing from serial either | 15:06 |
| bkeys | Maybe it's still set to emmc, although last I remembered the emmc had a valid uboot env on there it should show | 15:06 |
| bkeys | Okay I flipped the switch underneath the heatsink | 15:12 |
| bkeys | I dunno the screen lit up but there is no output | 15:12 |
| bkeys | No serial output either | 15:12 |
| bkeys | Okay I got serial output | 15:13 |
| bkeys | That is relieving | 15:13 |
| josch | what was the problem? | 15:13 |
| bkeys | Maybe my emmc is wiped? | 15:14 |
| bkeys | I take the SD card out and now I get no output | 15:14 |
| bkeys | At least I think | 15:15 |
| josch | bkeys: what is the configuration of your dip switch? it should be set to ON | 15:15 |
| bkeys | Right now it is towards the middle of the computer | 15:15 |
| josch | ?? | 15:15 |
| bkeys | Like it is flipped away from the edge | 15:15 |
| josch | like this? https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-handbook/uploads/6e7a46b06df43e788f705b783bd46c15/17e7457e179e68e3c74ab15fb2b47e3ab8f2945d.jpeg | 15:16 |
| bkeys | yes like that | 15:16 |
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| bkeys | Not seeing anything about distroboot | 15:21 |
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| bkeys | josch: So I have a sysimage that boots the kernel, but no output is on the screen whatsoever | 17:56 |
| bkeys | It's lit up though | 17:56 |
| josch | bkeys: what kernel? | 18:18 |
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| bkeys | josch: Linux reform 5.18.0-reform2-arm64 #1 SMP Debian 5.18.5-1+reform1 (2022-07-24) aarch64 GNU/Linux | 18:36 |
| bkeys | I swear, no matter what I get no distroboot | 18:42 |
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| reform13942 | \? | 18:50 |
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| bkeys | josch, minute: So I flashed the flash.bin that josch posted yesterday to both my SD card and my EMMC and I still do not get distroboot on here | 18:58 |
| bkeys | I am also unable to get any graphical output on the screen | 19:00 |
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| minute | bkeys: is it a current system image v3? | 20:05 |
| minute | bkeys: if yes, can you save dmesg via serial to somewhere? | 20:05 |
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| dodo | hm, i have reform-tools 1.8, but the sid repo has 1.0-7 as highest version? is there a different repo? | 20:50 |
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| minute | dodo: what's in your apt sources? | 21:31 |
| dodo | minute: deb https://mntre.com/reform-debian sid/ | 21:33 |
| dodo | from https://mntre.com/reform-debian/ | 21:33 |
| minute | dodo: that's a historical repo: https://mntre.com/reform-debian/sid/ | 21:37 |
| minute | dodo: you're on system image v2, the old one, then, and should start over or migrate to system image v3—clear out any stuff in /usr/local and change the repo address to the new one | 21:38 |
| dodo | i built reform2-imx8mq a few days ago, i thought that was v3? i accidentally deleted the original sources list | 21:42 |
| dodo | ok, https://mntre.com/reform-debian-repo it is.. | 21:43 |
| minute | ah, ok. yep | 21:44 |
| dodo | thanks! | 21:44 |
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