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| sknebel | I'd guess that they just like having the RAM interface be its own self-contained thing and the main core can just rely on it being ready and working. Not like a small extra core is a lot of effort or cost you'd go to pains to avoid | 00:07 |
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| minute | cinap_lenrek: the tool is freely available with an NXP login. | 10:11 |
| minute | sknebel: the DDR code runs normally only once at boot and never again. | 10:12 |
| minute | there's code in ATF that can stash and restore the derived config register values for sleep | 10:12 |
| cinap_lenrek | that seems bizzare | 10:13 |
| cinap_lenrek | oh well | 10:13 |
| cinap_lenrek | like tfa relying on untrusted os to do the ddr init | 10:13 |
| cinap_lenrek | and then later fiddle with it? | 10:14 |
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| minute | yeah | 10:17 |
| minute | it's a little rube goldberg machine. | 10:18 |
| minute | funnily, the ddr4 ctrl in layerscape doesn't need that | 10:18 |
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| minute | i'm here using a MNT Reform prototype with LS1028A module prototype running sway, chromium, glowing bear | 14:55 |
| minute | minetest has interesting flickering/z-fighting on LS1028A | 14:55 |
| minute | [ 4.628610] etnaviv-gpu f0c0000.gpu: model: GC7000, revision: 6202 | 14:56 |
| mjw | nice | 14:56 |
| minute | laptop feels pretty useful even if i don't have PCIe or the built-in ethernet :D | 14:57 |
| minute | (using an asus wifi stick) | 14:57 |
| mjw | And how does it compare in performance, you only got two cpus, but they are Cortex-A72 aren't they? | 14:58 |
| minute | yes, A72 | 15:06 |
| minute | they're roughly double the single core perf | 15:06 |
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| minute | so it's a gain for single threaded stuff | 15:07 |
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| josch | how is video performance? | 15:09 |
| minute | do you mean playing encoded videos? | 15:10 |
| minute | haven't tried yet! | 15:11 |
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| josch | i'm watching youtube via youtube-dl/mpv so personally i'm not even that interested in the video-in-browser performance but the clapper/mpv hardware-accel situation on the imx is sometimes challenging | 15:12 |
| josch | i'm wondering whether it's better on the LS1028A -- especially since some of the twitch streamers (i'm also watching those via mpv) have now switched to streaming 1080p in 60 fps only and for 30 fps i'd have to reduce the resolution :/ | 15:13 |
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| minute | josch: there's no accelerated video decoding on this chip | 15:24 |
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| josch | interesting -- then i'd like to know if the A72 is fast enough to do it in software | 15:27 |
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| minute | josch: checking now | 17:09 |
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| smj | Is anyone interested in running Plan9 on the MNT Reform and incorporating that use in a community Plan9 Boot Camp? | 18:49 |
| nocko | I am not sure I totally understand. I am interested in running 9front on my reform. I do like the bootcamps... | 18:51 |
| nocko | Currently using 9front on my x230 until audio/wifi shakes out. | 18:52 |
| smj | plan9front runs quite well at this point, but there are still some things to optimize and gain support for. The boot camp is geared for beginner to intermediate Plan9 users. | 18:52 |
| nocko | I've done the bootcamp (SDF) before. It's great. | 18:53 |
| nocko | I'd be willing to help others w/ reforms install/troubleshoot during a bootcamp. | 18:55 |
| minute | smj: if you have a webpage with this request i can tweet+toot it | 18:57 |
| smj | sure minute, right now its https://sdf.org/plan9 but it does not mention specifically MNT reform. I am hoping we'll have more support by the Fall. But several of us are using plan9 exclusively. Its quite nice on this platform (cinap fixed Mouse firmware already!) | 19:00 |
| smj | congrats on the new board. | 19:00 |
| minute | thanks! i'm happy that plan9/9front works so well now! | 19:01 |
| erle | smj i like camping + booting plan9 hehe | 19:02 |
| smj | attempting to live stream to peertube right now from plan9 on the MNT reform. | 19:02 |
| erle | what do you envision? | 19:02 |
| smj | erle, its mainly to help folks who are new to plan9 and curious about using it. Its self paced, discoveries/challenges and an interactive community | 19:03 |
| smj | so people helping others as we learn plan9 together | 19:03 |
| smj | https://toobnix.org/w/nyTDsU13kwNnSNn1VWj3vG | 19:17 |
| smj | live streaming from the MNT running plan9 :) | 19:17 |
| smj | sorry its a bit low quality, but it will improve (soon) | 19:18 |
| smj | baby steps | 19:19 |
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| minute | smj: the live stream is pretty cool! | 19:26 |
| smj | minute, it will get better :) notice the meters are pegged | 19:27 |
| smj | the vpu isn't currently used, once that gets incorporated it will greatly improve the fps. | 19:27 |
| smj | I'll try building netsurf | 19:29 |
| minute | the vpu cannot encode, though | 19:29 |
| minute | (at least not on imx8m) | 19:29 |
| smj | ahh, that was what I was wondering. | 19:29 |
| smj | oh this font is too small. | 19:30 |
| sigrid | smj: there's an option to lower the number of threads if you want the cpu to be a bit more free | 19:35 |
| smj | for video/hj264 ? | 19:36 |
| sigrid | yes, -n | 19:36 |
| smj | ahh I see | 19:36 |
| sigrid | it will probably result in lower fps though | 19:37 |
| smj | yeah, its OK for now, baby steps :) | 19:37 |
| smj | it *werks* | 19:37 |
| smj | everything else is optimization | 19:38 |
| smj | oh once thing I've not tried yet is the Shure USB audio cigar | 19:38 |
| sigrid | you have the same preamp as mine and aram too? | 19:39 |
| sigrid | triton fethead or whatever the name is | 19:40 |
| smj | I think that is right. | 19:40 |
| smj | let me go get it | 19:40 |
| sigrid | I have to turn on phantom power to get it working | 19:41 |
| sigrid | +48V, that is | 19:41 |
| smj | what about usb headset? | 19:43 |
| sigrid | never had one | 19:43 |
| smj | I can't find the sure :) | 19:43 |
| smj | ahh okay | 19:43 |
| smj | I'll keep digging | 19:43 |
| sigrid | should be the same outcome | 19:43 |
| sigrid | it's just an usb audio device | 19:44 |
| smj | ahh nusb/audio no endpoints found | 19:46 |
| sigrid | :( | 19:46 |
| smj | (: :) | 19:46 |
| smj | this is the plantronics headset, not the shure | 19:47 |
| smj | I can't seem to find it. | 19:47 |
| smj | ACTION checks one more place | 19:47 |
| sigrid | does it not appear in usbevent on attach? | 19:47 |
| sigrid | maybe it has some weird vid/did | 19:47 |
| sigrid | err, class | 19:47 |
| smj | ahh found, plugging in now. | 19:49 |
| smj | hmm no complaints for this one. | 19:50 |
| smj | what was that utility to detect audio/meter level ? | 19:50 |
| sigrid | https://git.sr.ht/~ft/pitch | 19:51 |
| smj | /dev/audio does not exist :) | 19:56 |
| sigrid | it's supposed to be somewhere in /shr | 19:56 |
| sigrid | i think | 19:56 |
| smj | hmmm, its not attaching now | 19:57 |
| sigrid | or maybe even in /dev/usb, one of the readable endpoints | 19:57 |
| smj | /dev/usb/ep9.0 | 19:58 |
| - qwer (QUIT: Ping timeout: 245 seconds) (~qwer@37-48-18-67.nat.epc.tmcz.cz) | 19:58 | |
| sigrid | cat /dev/usb/ep9.0/ctl | 19:59 |
| sigrid | see if one of them can be read from | 19:59 |
| sigrid | sorry, /dev/usb/ep9.*/ctl | 19:59 |
| smj | they're 10.* now. | 20:00 |
| smj | there it is! | 20:00 |
| smj | ahh I forgot this thing has so many interfaces. | 20:01 |
| smj | Shure X2u | 20:01 |
| sigrid | iso r one is probably the mic | 20:01 |
| smj | 10.4 | 20:02 |
| sigrid | yes | 20:02 |
| sigrid | try "pitch /dev/usb/ep10.4/data" | 20:03 |
| smj | bind /dev/usb/ep10.4/data /dev/audio ? | 20:03 |
| smj | oh | 20:03 |
| sigrid | no | 20:03 |
| sigrid | it says sample size is 4, which probably means it's stereo | 20:03 |
| smj | we got sound :) | 20:04 |
| sigrid | did the stream stop? | 20:05 |
| smj | ahhh.. | 20:05 |
| smj | something dropped. I got audio so I'll try switching to that device | 20:05 |
| sigrid | anyway, you should be able to use that as the audio source for aacenc | 20:05 |
| smj | okay its back | 20:08 |
| sigrid | whoa, lots of noise | 20:08 |
| sigrid | or is it just static | 20:08 |
| smj | is a voice in it at all? | 20:08 |
| sigrid | i don't hear any voice | 20:09 |
| smj | I may have had it cranked up too loud | 20:09 |
| sigrid | or too low | 20:09 |
| smj | I hear the noise | 20:09 |
| smj | I'm adjusting the gain on the x2u | 20:10 |
| sigrid | did you turn +48V on x2u? | 20:10 |
| smj | I hear my voice now | 20:10 |
| smj | but its in noise :) | 20:10 |
| smj | works, now it needs refinement :) | 20:10 |
| smj | I did not adjust recgain in /dev/volume | 20:13 |
| sigrid | I don't think there IS /dev/volume in this case | 20:13 |
| smj | you're right. | 20:13 |
| sigrid | usb audio devices usually provide a HID endpoint for volume control and stuff | 20:14 |
| sigrid | don't think nusb/audio does anything | 20:14 |
| smj | yes, so I've got that on the device. | 20:14 |
| sigrid | I should add mic reading to it, anyway | 20:14 |
| smj | well, my voice was there just buried in the noise. | 20:14 |
| sigrid | so the audio file is rw, not just w | 20:15 |
| smj | interesting :) | 20:15 |
| smj | I should try listening to a file too with this device. | 20:16 |
| sigrid | if you don't have that preamp ring on the mic directly it's going to be too quiet | 20:16 |
| smj | for treason, which ep10.*/data would you think would be the headphone jack? | 20:16 |
| sigrid | iso w | 20:16 |
| smj | okay ep10.2 | 20:17 |
| smj | yay, headphone audio works :) | 20:19 |
| smj | thats 480 video | 20:19 |
| smj | but I'd need to run mixfs to get that audio into the stream | 20:20 |
| sigrid | yes | 20:20 |
| smj | supermoon over seattle | 20:20 |
| smj | timelapse | 20:20 |
| smj | I think I have a still of it near Bell plaza I should show sl | 20:21 |
| smj | ACTION scribbles notes | 20:22 |
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| ajr | smj: nice stream! | 20:27 |
| smj | hey sigrid, my mic is better now. | 20:28 |
| smj | the sennheiser wasn't great. | 20:28 |
| smj | but the shure SM58 | 20:28 |
| sigrid | nice! | 20:28 |
| sigrid | meanwhile: obs does not work on mnt reform linux | 20:29 |
| ajr | winning | 20:29 |
| sigrid | at least for me it does not | 20:29 |
| kfx | me neither, it needs newer gles or something | 20:38 |
| kfx | smj: we're mic buddies, sm58 club | 20:38 |
| smj | wow that was great sigrid, thank you! | 21:02 |
| smj | I wonder if I'm saying sigrid wrong. Is it "see grid" or am I saying it correctly? | 21:03 |
| smj | https://toobnix.org/w/nyTDsU13kwNnSNn1VWj3vG | 21:09 |
| smj | I will leave it running without audio and build a few things | 21:09 |
| sigrid | smj: yes, SÃgrid | 21:15 |
| smj | maybe have audio now. | 21:20 |
| smj | treason is much faster when you're not compiling netsurf :) | 21:37 |
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| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@static-198-54-135-69.cust.tzulo.com) | 23:15 | |
| smj | Doing a little bit of live debugging now on MNT reform plan9. We may have identified an interesting USB audio bug. | 23:36 |
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