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| Asmadeus | oh debian's gcc-avr is plenty old (5.4), no wonder it still has -fcommon by default... Yeah should just move the display struct from display.h to display.c as a proper fix | 04:29 |
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| grubman | where did mkkernel.sh go ? | 04:33 |
| grubman | i'm needing to rebuild the kernel to support a wifi card | 04:33 |
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| josch | minute: clapper indeed has dependencies missing :) | 09:26 |
| josch | it just doesn't show on the full system image because all of them happen to be installed already | 09:27 |
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| * wielaard -> mjw | 14:27 | |
| * blast007_ -> blast007 | 14:30 | |
| flowy | grubman: i guess you're still using sysimagev2? i guess you'd want to check out an older branch of reform-system-image for the older kernel build scripts (sans modules) | 14:45 |
| flowy | with sysimagev3 it's much less likely you'll ever spend time building a kernel, since almost everything you'd want comes as modules. | 14:47 |
| josch | grubman: this is the last version of mkimage.sh: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/tree/1f3cb4f8f3eec4d817a939ea3d1cc51fa0c9b692/reform2-imx8mq | 14:48 |
| josch | but since then we are now just building a normal Debian kernel with six patches on top | 14:50 |
| josch | it is very likely that with sysimage-v3 your wifi card will not work and if it doesn't you might just need to enable non-free and install the respective proprietary firmware package | 14:50 |
| josch | s/will not work/will just work/ | 14:51 |
| josch | hah, funny typo ;) | 14:51 |
| flowy | as much as i get nostalgic building kernels i'm happy to trade that time for other things :) | 14:51 |
| josch | ACTION just lacks the hardware and disk space -- building a full debian kernel takes 3 hours and 60 GB of disk space on my laptop | 14:52 |
| flowy | josch: does the mnt ci use x86 to build everything? | 14:57 |
| josch | flowy: yes, we cross compile an arm64 kernel from amd64 | 14:58 |
| flowy | i am kinda curious to replicate the setup. i'd like to learn more about ci systems. to have a locally built image + repo | 14:58 |
| flowy | then maybe i can also get the chops to help maintain some packages or whatever | 14:58 |
| josch | flowy: you can build all of this locally without any ci | 14:58 |
| flowy | cool | 15:00 |
| grubman | josch: oh! ok i'll just try enabling the non-free repo then | 15:20 |
| grubman | pretty sure i'm using the v3 image | 15:20 |
| josch | grubman: what hardware do you have and what does dmesg say about the card? | 15:21 |
| grubman | it's an rtl8811au card | 15:22 |
| grubman | [39064.338872] usb 3-1: new high-speed USB device number 5 using xhci-hcd | 15:26 |
| grubman | [39064.491341] usb 3-1: New USB device found, idVendor=0846, idProduct=9052, bcdDevice= 2.00 | 15:26 |
| josch | grubman: it seems that card has a driver that is built via dkms | 15:26 |
| grubman | [39064.499704] usb 3-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 | 15:26 |
| grubman | [39064.516152] usb 3-1: Product: 802.11ac WLAN Adapter | 15:26 |
| grubman | [39064.530332] usb 3-1: Manufacturer: Realtek | 15:26 |
| grubman | [39064.543680] usb 3-1: SerialNumber: 00e04c000001 | 15:26 |
| josch | grubman: please use a pastebin | 15:26 |
| grubman | yes. i've tried building with dkms but there's something odd with how the kernel headers are symlinked or something else | 15:27 |
| grubman | sorry for the spam | 15:27 |
| grubman | i'm running without sway or anything. just pure tmux. :-) | 15:28 |
| josch | grubman: it's possible that the dkms driver has to be changed to work with recent kernel versions | 15:42 |
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| Boostisbetter | Sway is the truth. Hahahaha | 19:22 |
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| Boostisbetter | I mean options are the reason why Linux is so great. So everything for everyone. But for me Sway is the perfect middle ground between straight terminal and GUI based desktop. | 20:01 |
| + cwebber (~user@user/cwebber) | 20:19 | |
| cwebber | o/ | 20:19 |
| cwebber | new pine64 risc-v announcement looks cool, guessing that might be a viable "thing to stick into your reform" as a path to get risc-v workin' on it in the future? | 20:20 |
| vagrantc | i'd only seen announcements for a full SBC, not any kind of module | 21:01 |
| cwebber | ah hm | 21:03 |
| vagrantc | cwebber: i keep meaning to work on builds for guix builds of u-boot/linux for the mnt/reform but keep getting distracted by basically everything else in the universe | 21:03 |
| vagrantc | seems feasible a patched kernel could even land in guix master... | 21:04 |
| cwebber | vagrantc: if you make a channel for booting guix on the mnt reform | 21:04 |
| cwebber | I promise to test it | 21:04 |
| vagrantc | :) | 21:04 |
| vagrantc | would be my first attempt at a channel ... | 21:04 |
| cwebber | channels are pretty easy | 21:05 |
| cwebber | they're just git repos :) | 21:05 |
| cwebber | with packages! | 21:05 |
| vagrantc | seems feasible to have a bring-your-own-bootloader and then kernel in guix master | 21:05 |
| cwebber | ACTION adds #mnt-reform to autojoins | 21:05 |
| vagrantc | and maybe a more-featurefull kernel in a channel (e.g. HDMI) | 21:05 |
| cwebber | https://www.pine64.org/2022/06/28/june-update-who-likes-risc-v/ seems you're right, I think on the SBC | 21:06 |
| cwebber | but... I am optimistic that maybe if that succeeds | 21:06 |
| cwebber | the module might as well? | 21:06 |
| cwebber | but also I know jack shit about hardware | 21:06 |
| cwebber | like, nothin' at all lol | 21:07 |
| cwebber | well, that's not true | 21:07 |
| cwebber | would you believe it that I spent the first two years of my career repairing machines in google's first mega-datacenters | 21:07 |
| minute | cwebber: the question is, which chip is that | 21:27 |
| minute | starfive perhaps? or something directly from imagination? | 21:27 |
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| cwebber | minute: I have no idea :) | 21:28 |
| minute | cwebber: once that is clarified, i'm sure there will be more options | 21:29 |
| minute | now is a bit early i guess | 21:29 |
| vagrantc | there are, surprise, some risc-v chips out there that are not quite compatible with, say, debian's riscv64 port | 21:29 |
| minute | pray tell | 21:30 |
| vagrantc | i *think* fedora also targeted the same baseline featureset, but not too sure of that | 21:30 |
| vagrantc | i vaguely recall one of the allwinner ones requiring non-mainlineable kernel patches in order to work with debian's riscv64 | 21:31 |
| vagrantc | riscv64 userspace | 21:32 |
| minute | D1? | 21:39 |
| vagrantc | that rings a bell | 21:39 |
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