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| Boostisbetter | BTW, how often to do you all turn off your Reform? I think in the half a year I have had mine, it has been off twice. It is either in standby or on. | 00:29 |
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| cinap_reform | i think i powercycled the reform over 9000 times while debugging ;) | 00:38 |
| sigrid | every time i go anywhere out and take it with me, i turn it off | 00:55 |
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| Boostisbetter | Yeah I am the opposite. Everytime I take somewhere it is in standby. | 10:02 |
| ex-parrot | that's a good innings | 10:03 |
| Boostisbetter | I find the heat while in standby is resilient and does not overheat the device while in a bag. | 10:16 |
| Boostisbetter | I like being able to resume with out having to open everything, etc. So for me this works well. | 10:16 |
| ex-parrot | what OS etc are you running? I'm glad to hear the suspend is more reliable | 10:27 |
| ex-parrot | I didn't have much luck on the initial Debian image tho I imagine it's better now | 10:27 |
| Boostisbetter | I am using stock debian supplied by MNT, but updated via apt. I'm using the modified suspend script. It is about 90% functional. The few times it fails and I have to setup everything is still better than having to do it every time, so I'm good. | 10:39 |
| Boostisbetter | What I've noticed is that certain programs being open seems to affect it. | 10:39 |
| Boostisbetter | If you have LIbreoffice open it tends to fail. Not sure why. | 10:39 |
| ex-parrot | interesting | 10:40 |
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| minute | Boostisbetter: relevant to your interests https://community.mnt.re/t/standby-suspend-to-ram-mnt-reform/538/70 | 13:10 |
| Boostisbetter | minute: that is great! | 13:12 |
| ex-parrot | neat | 13:15 |
| minute | indeed it is! | 13:15 |
| ex-parrot | we are just solving all the problems | 13:15 |
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| minute | i just added `rmmod hantro_vpu` and `modprobe hantro_vpu` functions in reform-standby for testing now | 13:16 |
| minute | ah, got some gpu glitching now after wake :\ | 13:16 |
| minute | but i also don't have any of the other workarounds in my kernel | 13:17 |
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| Boostisbetter | OK. I'll hold off apt updating for now but I love anything related to standby performance. | 14:01 |
| Boostisbetter | I have quite a few updates ready, but I see that the new kernel is one of them. I am still on 5.12 | 14:07 |
| Boostisbetter | but everything is humming along now near perfect, and so I am quite content to just hold off an see how things go. | 14:07 |
| minute | makes sense! | 14:14 |
| + mtm (~mtm@c-73-27-62-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) | 14:31 | |
| josch | okay, so i came back from portugal yesterday after 10 days with my reform as my only device (did everything from web to email to compiling stuff, maintaining my packages and uploading new things into Debian, it all worked great!) and there is a UPS notification in my postbox -- I only know one person who would've sent me stuff via UPS so all eager i went to the UPS pickup location and picked up a | 14:48 |
| josch | package sealed with MNT tape :D | 14:48 |
| josch | it was indeed a imx8mq board which I just plugged into my reform and tadaaaaa: http://paste.debian.net/1246119/ | 14:49 |
| josch | i finally have u-boot output via serial! \o/ | 14:49 |
| josch | minute: I'll send you the board with the broken serial to the address on the ups shipping label -- thanks a lot!! :D | 14:50 |
| + erle (~erle@ip5f5af7e0.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) | 14:51 | |
| minute | josch: oh you're very lucky because i only later realized that the imx8mq som i sent you migh have been damaged (fell of a table), can you (sorry for the inconvenience) send me a closeup photo of the power supply section of this som? near the label ARM_1V close to one of the screw holes | 14:52 |
| flowy | josch: woo! glad you have some UART goodness | 14:52 |
| flowy | minute: this morning was the first i successfully woke the machine without unscrewing the bezel. it happens to be the first time after downgrading to the firmware i used in my old keyboard pcb. i'll continue testing. it's a slow process because of how long it takes to reproduce | 14:54 |
| flowy | first in over a week, i mean. | 14:54 |
| flowy | but i'm starting to suspect that there could be a lingering bug in the keyboard fw | 14:55 |
| flowy | it kept hanging after i removed the 3.3v ldo | 14:56 |
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| josch | minute: don't worry about any "inconvenience" -- i'm very happy :) I can send you a photo tonight as i don't have a digital camera with me. I also see the ARM_1V label. Do you want the photo straight from above or from some angle? | 14:56 |
| minute | josch: both if possible... i'm looking for missing capacitor or cracked WLCSP (little mirror-like chip) | 14:57 |
| minute | flowy: did you already apply the patch to fix this issue? | 14:58 |
| minute | i also just merged it fwiw | 14:58 |
| minute | flowy: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform/-/merge_requests/26 | 14:58 |
| flowy | minute: no, i'm saving trying that- because i find it unsatisfying that i didn't have this problem with the old fw, so i want to get to the bottom of why | 14:58 |
| flowy | but i will eventually, just takes a while to try each thing. | 14:59 |
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| josch | minute: https://owncloud.mister-muffin.de/index.php/s/ZA8TSYiecpp84w7 -- tell me if you need anything else photographed | 20:12 |
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| minute | josch: very good pictures, thanks! it looks fine! | 20:35 |
| josch | awesome, thanks for checking :) | 20:36 |
| josch | then i'll now apply a bit of heat-paste and install it permanently | 20:37 |
| minute | nice | 20:38 |
| josch | flipped the DIP switch to ON and booted into my kde plasma system on sd card | 20:42 |
| josch | i'll give it a little bit more testing but i guess at this point nothing much can be wrong anymore :) | 20:43 |
| josch | have to tell bkeys the good news once they are online next :) | 20:43 |
| josch | i'll then work on the two todo items from last week and the EFI boot via uboot | 20:43 |
| minute | awesome! | 20:51 |
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| josch | minute: do you have a patch for what you describe in https://community.mnt.re/t/standby-suspend-to-ram-mnt-reform/538/70 to make sure that i'm running exactly the same thing here as you are testing right now? | 21:37 |
| minute | josch: making a patch now | 22:25 |
| minute | josch: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-tools/-/commit/d192887a719e0b7d62b61b273a1ad7490a556e4a | 22:28 |
| vkoskiv | What's the best libre CAD program? | 22:30 |
| minute | vkoskiv: freecad | 22:30 |
| vkoskiv | I'll give it a go! It's been years since I did CAD, so I think it would benefit me to get used to the libre tools instead of adding a dependency on a commercial product | 22:34 |
| cinap_lenrek | mspaint.exe | 22:34 |
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