| klardotsh | lszl: don't you need nonguix to run guixsd on basically any hardware actually known to humans? | 00:18 |
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| klardotsh | or is there hardware that boots (and ideally is functionally usable) on pure guixsd now? | 00:18 |
| flowy | heh so i'm trying to desolder this tiny 2mm 3.3v ldo off the mnt standalone keyboard but i have no experience, any tips? | 00:19 |
| flowy | it's so tiny. perhaps i'm just ill equipped | 00:19 |
| flowy | i don't even mind killing it if it will just come off | 00:20 |
| flowy | but i don't want to risk overheating nearby components | 00:20 |
| flowy | i have a crappy soldering iron that says it goes to 450c and some wick. perhaps the tip is too large | 00:22 |
| NanoCodeBug | highly recommend having flux and soldering wick | 00:26 |
| NanoCodeBug | you can get tiny tubes of "no clean flux" and soldering wick from most online retailers | 00:27 |
| flowy | yea have wick but i guess i need flux! will stop this attempt before i kill the chip without even removing it. | 00:29 |
| minute | flowy: use flux (chipquik no clean tacky flux from syringe). heat one leg, lift component with knife. heat next leg. repeat | 00:35 |
| minute | flowy: big tip is good | 00:35 |
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| flowy | thanks! that's helpful. will order that | 00:38 |
| flowy | minute: like this stuff? https://www.amazon.de/-/en/ChipQuik-Solder-Paste-Lead-Free-Temperature/dp/B0195V1QEI/ | 00:41 |
| minute | flowy: no, that's solder paste | 00:42 |
| flowy | lol | 00:42 |
| flowy | minute: https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Chipquik-Clean-10-CC-Syringe-Washable/dp/B0195UDZSE/ | 00:43 |
| flowy | i'm an utter newb at this stuff | 00:43 |
| minute | https://www.amazon.de/-/en/gp/aw/d/B00HKJTJ6U/ref=psdcmw_80085031_t1_B0195UDZSE | 00:43 |
| minute | i mean, the water washable should be fine too | 00:43 |
| minute | i just ordered it myself for the first time but haven't tried it yet | 00:43 |
| flowy | thanks | 00:44 |
| minute | the regular one will come off with isopropyl alcohol... | 00:44 |
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| NanoCodeBug | i've found the fumes of the water washable one to be super noxious and its very liquid. I've found the tacky no-clean flux to be easier to use | 02:06 |
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| NanoCodeBug | mmm cross compile kernel builds, one of the few times all the cores get used | 04:40 |
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| chartreuse | Welp found out I managed to kill a couple cells in my reform by leaving for a bit. Was briefly back home on the weekend and last minute decided to charge the reform and bring it back on vacation with me | 05:48 |
| chartreuse | Oddly enough just the two innermost ones closest to the trackpad, wonder if something odd is in the circuit there | 05:48 |
| chartreuse | Did try and charge with a bench supply but didn't have time for an extended charge and wasn't going up in voltage past 0.7v at 200mA (more current did bring the voltage up but it drops immediatly after removing) | 05:49 |
| chartreuse | Will try a longer trickle charge to try and revive, but might need to get another two cells sadly | 05:49 |
| chartreuse | Would have thought it'd be fine for much longer with the firmwares (not the latest latest but still the improved one) | 05:50 |
| chartreuse | The positions of the cells does make me wonder if something in the circuit is off though | 05:50 |
| * eschaton_ -> eschaton | 06:40 | |
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| josch | chartreuse: do you live somewhere in europe? i have some spare cells i don't need anymore and which i can send you | 08:30 |
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| Guest33 | klardotsh, I think pure guixsd should run on librebooted thinkpads | 09:02 |
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| nocko | Has anyone experienced the trackball stop registering movement? The buttons are still working, but the pointer isn't moving. I'm in the middle of something, so I haven't restarted yet to see if that clears the issue. | 12:56 |
| minute | nocko: probably dirt on the sensor? | 13:02 |
| minute | nocko: try cleaning it according to the handbook | 13:02 |
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| nocko | Will do. Theoretically UPS will deliver a new trackball cup soon... so I was going to be down there anyway. | 13:16 |
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| bkeys | minute, josch: Wonderful news, I just got a repair quote from the US shop here. They are only charging me $250 (their base price for a repair) to work on the Reform. So it's likely you can refer people to them | 15:19 |
| bkeys | https://www.psi-repair.com/ | 15:19 |
| minute | bkeys: oh great! | 15:19 |
| bkeys | $250 is the cheapest they will do a repair, I am going to accept their price and report on their current lead times | 15:19 |
| bkeys | It seems they usually repair larger industrial equipment; but I am glad they are willing to work on the Reform. | 15:20 |
| bkeys | Hopefully they can take some of the strain off of your shoulders | 15:21 |
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| flowy | trick if your reform trackball get stuck and you're too lazy to take off the key caps, unscrew the holder, etc.- if you spray some canned air in there and the bursts are powerful enough, the air will force the ball to push up and float momentarily and give it an effective cleaning | 16:51 |
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| minute | flowy: neat | 17:32 |
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| vkoskiv | Has anyone tried cleaning the acrylic bottom with IPA yet? I haven't, because acrylic generally starts cracking if exposed to IPA | 20:12 |
| vkoskiv | I learned that the hard way-. | 20:14 |
| kfx | india pale ale? | 20:24 |
| kfx | oh, isopropyl alcohol | 20:25 |
| kfx | I use endust screen cleaner on basically the whole computer | 20:25 |
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| vkoskiv | You can search for videos on what happens when acrylic meets isopropyl alcohol. | 20:31 |
| vkoskiv | I daren't try it on my reform. Already broke the display glass on a brand new transceiver by trying to clean it :D | 20:31 |
| vkoskiv | Might be a good addition to the handbook if not there already | 20:32 |
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| vkoskiv | *if* the acrylic bottom of the reform is susceptible. | 20:32 |
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| sigrid | alcohol & plastic are not great combinations | 20:32 |
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| jfred | wow the trackball cup with the bearings makes it *way* smoother! feels good :D | 21:47 |
| jfred | ...I will need to get some replacement screws at some point though, I stripped some of them badly when installing the new cup 😅 | 21:50 |
| vkoskiv | Hmm. 60 watt solar panels are not big. Or expensive. | 21:50 |
| vkoskiv | Though I'd probably want a ~100 watt one to be certain, right? | 21:51 |
| vkoskiv | Could I just plug the panel directly into the socket or does it need a regulator or a ballast or something in between? | 21:51 |
| sigrid | you definitely can't just plug the panel as is into anything, really | 21:53 |
| vkoskiv | Why's that? It puts out the right voltage, and provided it has enough sunlight, enough wattage. | 21:53 |
| sigrid | that would mean it has a regulator built in | 21:54 |
| vkoskiv | Does it get damaged if I overload it? | 21:54 |
| vkoskiv | Right, if I short circuit a solar panel and set it in the sun, I bet it won't like that. | 21:54 |
| sigrid | you could probably heat up water without a proper regulator, but you'd still need something in between | 21:54 |
| sigrid | the voltage can drop and rise significantly | 21:55 |
| jfred | I seem to recall solar panels' voltage can vary quite a bit depending on sunlight, yeah. The handbook says it expects 9-32 V on the barrel jack, though I don't know how consistent that needs to be... but you'd certainly need to regulate it to at most 32 V | 21:55 |
| vkoskiv | Yeah and the regulator in the reform probably won't be happy about that. | 21:55 |
| vkoskiv | But an interesting idea nevertheless. A solar powered Reform just seems appropriate. | 21:56 |
| vkoskiv | Even if the panel isn't integrated. I think the cover is a bit too small for a sufficient panel. | 21:56 |
| vkoskiv | And I live too far north for a solar panel investment to make sense at this scale. | 21:56 |
| vkoskiv | If I were more of a prepper, I would probably buy one anyway. | 21:57 |
| sigrid | how far north? | 21:57 |
| jfred | I was actually wondering about that kind of thing myself recently | 21:57 |
| jfred | like, how much you'd have to do to make powering the Reform off a solar panel safe | 21:57 |
| jfred | ...and also off one of these things https://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2022/03/how-to-build-bike-generator.html | 21:57 |
| kfx | I have a hundred watt panel array with a charge controller and it powers my entire travel trailer | 21:57 |
| sigrid | powering off solar panel is useless anywhere. it makes sense to charge batteries | 21:57 |
| kfx | and yeah I have two AGM batteries in the trailer that I charge with the solar panel | 21:58 |
| vkoskiv | The reason I'm thinking about this now is, I'm heading to a cottage for the weekend. I want to bring my Reform, but the cottage only has solar power with a (I assume) 12v system. | 21:58 |
| jfred | sigrid: I mean sure, in the case of the Reform though it has its battery pack built in :P | 21:58 |
| sigrid | I'd charge bigger batteries and use those to power reform, probably | 21:58 |
| kfx | I agree with sigrid | 21:59 |
| vkoskiv | If I wired up a barrel plug to a 12v supply and plugged it in, would it blow the reform up? | 21:59 |
| kfx | no | 21:59 |
| sigrid | like a car cigar plug? | 21:59 |
| vkoskiv | If I recall, it's like a car cigar plug, yeah. | 21:59 |
| kfx | iirc the reform can take anything between like 9v and 30v, its on the site somewhere | 21:59 |
| sigrid | it would work | 21:59 |
| vkoskiv | Yeah 9-30ish volts is in the handbook. | 21:59 |
| sigrid | that is something I used, with car batteries directly | 21:59 |
| sigrid | without solar involved though | 21:59 |
| kfx | The barrel jack accepts DC voltage in the range of 7V to 32V. | 22:00 |
| vkoskiv | I like the simplicity of the barrel plug. I have a bunch of them that I could wire up to 12v stuff in a car or something. | 22:00 |
| vkoskiv | Just seems appealing to me. | 22:00 |
| vkoskiv | If I connected it directly to a car battery, the reform would just draw the current it needs, right? | 22:00 |
| kfx | yes | 22:01 |
| jfred | I'm curious about what the regulator in the Reform can actually handle... 9-32 V is a much wider range than I'm used to seeing, I'm sure there are downsides to giving it something on the lower or upper ends of that range? (Rather than the nominal 24 V) | 22:01 |
| vkoskiv | jfred: If you put in 7v, the downside is you then need 8.5 amperes of current. | 22:02 |
| vkoskiv | Which I'm pretty sure is not ideal. | 22:02 |
| vkoskiv | It's a bit toasty, at least. | 22:02 |
| jfred | :) | 22:02 |
| sigrid | ltc4020 goes from 4.5V to 55V | 22:03 |
| sigrid | that is, if I am reading the schematics correctly, assuming ltc4020 is what stands in between barrel jack and the rest of the reform | 22:04 |
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