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| kfx | sl: vkoskiv: this is what plastidip is for | 01:37 |
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| minute | we need to get the battery driver stuff from nanocodebug tested and merged https://community.mnt.re/t/lpc-spi-firmware-and-driver-prototype/1030/3 | 10:00 |
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| minute | current system-image does not appear to boot on my machine. will investigate | 13:33 |
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| minute | ah, i know why, because HDMI is faulty in my som | 13:37 |
| Boostisbetter | minute: i am really impressed with the dimensions on the Pocket Reform. The Penkesu that I built mearsures 20.6 wide and 10 cm deep. The Pocket Reform will be significantly more of a machine and is coming in at a truly compact size. Really can't wait. | 14:01 |
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| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@static-198-54-135-69.cust.tzulo.com) | 15:02 | |
| bkeys | minute: So I got an email from support.mnt.re by a guy named Paul. He says he is willing to fix my carrier board for 150 EUR which atm exchanges to $157, the baseline price for the people I have been talking to to repair it was $250 and that is the cheapest they will charge | 15:04 |
| minute | bkeys: yes, i instructed him to quote you this price | 15:14 |
| minute | so i guess my quote was too low eh ^^ | 15:14 |
| bkeys | Yeah I sent that email just so I could get the motions going in case the people domestically told me no | 15:14 |
| minute | josch: testing newest v3 atm, little nits: adduser remarks about the groups "bluetooth", "debian-tor" and "lpadmin" missing | 15:15 |
| minute | bkeys: yeah, if you find a local fix that would of course unburden me | 15:15 |
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| bkeys | Yeah my main concern is turnaround time, my guess is the people domestically would get to looking at it pretty quickly | 15:15 |
| minute | yep | 15:16 |
| bkeys | Just curious, let's say your schedule got cleared and the reform was teleported to you; how long does said repair normally take a skilled person? | 15:16 |
| bkeys | I can solder somewhat but once it's smaller than 2mm it's not really a good idea for me to do it | 15:16 |
| minute | i don't know | 15:17 |
| minute | because i haven't looked at it | 15:17 |
| minute | but i was calculating with 1 hour | 15:18 |
| bkeys | Yeah; I guess that makes sense. I don't think I want to go down the rabbit hole of hardware repair but it is something that interests me | 15:18 |
| bkeys | Years ago hardware as more of an abstract thing to me, since my career pivoted to embedded development it has become less abstract | 15:19 |
| minute | josch: kde is missing "systemsettings" | 15:20 |
| minute | josch: also missing "plasma-nm" | 15:21 |
| minute | ah, plasma-discover pulls in unattended-upgrades and fwupd which is not good | 15:25 |
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| + mtm (~mtm@c-73-27-62-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) | 16:08 | |
| minute | hmm, kde-standard brings in a lot of junk that looks out of place in sway | 16:22 |
| josch | minute: on my current trip to portugal with nothing else other than the reform I'm also testing kde plasma and made the same discoveries as you did. Next to systemsettings and plasma-nm also missing is powerdevil | 16:46 |
| josch | I was also missing apt-file and openssh-client -- any reason those are not installed by default? i'd even expect those on the rescue system | 16:47 |
| josch | if kde-standard is too much, we can install a subset of its dependencies | 16:49 |
| josch | minute: where do you see the adduser warnings? i thought i was running the latest image as well and must've missed them | 16:58 |
| minute | josch: in the output of `adduser myuser` | 17:02 |
| minute | josch: ah yeah, i'm removing kde-standard now and adding those missing tools... i think i did not add openssh-client as i did not want ssh keys to be included with the system image (afaik they are automatically created) | 17:03 |
| minute | josch: i can add apt-file though | 17:03 |
| minute | josch: i'm temp. removing ffmpeg from reform-debian-packages as the patch no longer works with 5.x | 17:04 |
| josch | minute: of course no ssh private keys should be distributed in the image but the ssh client only needs private keys per user and we don't need it for the root user | 17:04 |
| josch | yes, removing ffmpeg makes sense | 17:05 |
| minute | josch: yeah, i wasn't sure how to install it without having it auto-generate keys (maybe it's different in this new build process?) | 17:05 |
| josch | ah i now see what you mean in adduser -- the underlying problem is this: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1012168 | 17:08 |
| josch | but we can work around this in the image creation process | 17:08 |
| josch | i'll put the openssh-client keys and adduser groups on my todo list | 17:09 |
| minute | josch: great, thanks | 17:10 |
| josch | minute: are you taking care of picking the parts of kde-standard you want? | 17:11 |
| josch | or is this the time where we now create one image for each desktop environment? ;) | 17:11 |
| josch | (or a reform-tools script that installs the environment the user chooses) | 17:12 |
| minute | josch: yes, doing that atm | 17:12 |
| josch | nice | 17:12 |
| vkoskiv | I noticed gsd-xsettings is constantly on in the background eating 2% of system memory. Almost as much as Sway! | 17:59 |
| minute | vkoskiv: how do you know how much memory it uses exactly? | 18:14 |
| minute | according to smem -k it uses 21MB | 18:18 |
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| minute | new system image build https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/jobs/833/artifacts/browse/reform2-imx8mq/ | 20:44 |
| Boostisbetter | minute: one suggestion if the case design on the Pocket Reform is not complete is to push the hinges closer to the ends of the case. Right now they seem like they are too center, but it isn't a big deal at all. Just something I noticed. | 21:27 |
| cinap_lenrek | https://felloff.net/usr/cinap_lenrek/reform-uartport/ | 21:31 |
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| + MajorBiscuit (~MajorBisc@86-88-79-148.fixed.kpn.net) | 21:49 | |
| sigrid | cinap_lenrek: nice | 21:49 |
| sigrid | i want to combine that with kfx's external wifi antennas mod | 21:50 |
| cinap_lenrek | haha | 21:50 |
| minute | cinap_lenrek: real engineering right there | 21:51 |
| kfx | sigrid: I changed to just one external antenna and the stock internal antenna as secondary | 21:51 |
| kfx | works great | 21:51 |
| sigrid | oh ok | 21:52 |
| cinap_lenrek | minute: nah, its me doing babysteps ;) | 21:52 |
| cinap_lenrek | i didnt even know how to crimp the conenctors | 21:52 |
| minute | but now you do? | 21:53 |
| cinap_lenrek | minute: i know enougth now to avoid it at all costs :D | 21:53 |
| cinap_lenrek | <- bloody hands | 21:53 |
| minute | eek | 21:53 |
| cinap_lenrek | i must have destroyed like 20 pins and 5 connectors | 21:53 |
| minute | wow | 21:54 |
| minute | i feel your pain | 21:54 |
| minute | nowadays we are experienced with the crimping | 21:55 |
| minute | but this was not always the case | 21:55 |
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