2022-06-09.log

sknebelwoah, fast-driven e-ink: https://twitter.com/zephray_wenting/status/1534641299705499648 / https://twitter.com/zephray_wenting/status/153465949595105280000:14
cinap_lenrekhttp://felloff.net/usr/cinap_lenrek/doomreform.jpg00:14
vkoskivMy system seems to be missing some things. Like the reform-standby script, for instance00:17
vkoskivand reform*-config00:17
vkoskivJust running off the SD still, latest artifact from the CI system00:18
kfxvkoskiv: a lot of that stuff Went Away in the v3 image00:18
kfxsuspend is done via systemd now, for instance00:18
vkoskivHow do I do a suspend?00:18
kfxthey're trying to get it more like standard debian instead of custom stuff00:19
vkoskivCool00:19
vkoskivAre there docs for the new stuff someplace?00:19
kfxvkoskiv: systemctl suspend00:19
vkoskivI'll try it. If I'm away for a few mins, chances are it didn't work00:20
kfxvkoskiv: I think most of the info has made it into https://community.mnt.re/t/mnt-reform-system-image-v3-beta/744 by now00:20
vkoskivIt didn't wake :D00:22
vkoskivOr I'm just impatient.00:22
vkoskivIt started waking, then brief flash on the oled, something about no response from LPC and then nothing00:22
vkoskivTried a few times, then just booted it normally.00:23
vkoskivThanks for the link!00:23
kfxvkoskiv: there's some chatter in that thread from last month about wake failures00:24
kfxbut I don't use that system image so I can't really help test00:24
vkoskivYup. I spent a lot of time reading the forums while waiting00:25
kfxI'm an incorrigable butthead so I'm booting the 5.12 kernel and then running an alpine linux system on top of it00:26
vkoskivIt's the linux way - make it your own!00:27
vkoskivmpv seems to work quite smooth for youtube playback. Not sure how to check that it is indeed using the hw decoder00:30
vkoskivTried to look at the interrupt list, but not sure which one it would be00:31
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- chomwitt (QUIT: Ping timeout: 240 seconds) (~chomwitt@2a02:587:dc1f:5600:d683:3d28:fc15:22d4)01:13
vkoskivI am absolutely, beyond satisfied with this thing. Everything is working perfectly so far.01:16
vkoskivOf course I expect snags at some point with beta software, but damn is this whole thing so well executed both in hardware and software01:17
vkoskivEverything is just 01:17
vkoskiv*right*01:17
vkoskivI'll try and get some sleep now so I can function tomorrow. Goodnight!01:17
minutevkoskiv: for reform-* you just need sudo01:34
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+ mtm (~mtm@c-73-27-62-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)04:08
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kfxwhy does nxp advertise opengl es3.1 on the i.mx8mq?07:14
+ chomwitt (~chomwitt@2a02:587:dc1f:5600:28f0:c157:4d87:4f4e)07:39
vkoskivminute: Yeah I eventually figured that one out :307:59
vkoskivThe migration script worked really nicely, I moved the system over to an encrypted nvme07:59
vkoskivStill considering if I want to boot off of SSD or emmc.08:00
vkoskiv*SD or emmc08:31
kfxif I had a 3d printer I'd design a stick with a hole in it that I can lay over the switch under the heatsink so I don't have to pull the heatsink to switch between emmc and sd boot :)08:33
vkoskivkfx: I think the hardware supports 3.1 but the etnaviv driver only supports 2.x, right?08:49
kfxyeah, it looks like the proprietary imx-gpu-viv driver does 3.109:04
kfxand that driver is buried in some kind of batshit yocto nightmare which apparently only runs on debian or ubuntu09:05
+ MajorBiscuit (~MajorBisc@wlan-145-94-166-223.wlan.tudelft.nl)09:22
minutethat driver also needs a vendor kernel and a blob component that runs in userspace10:09
minute(galcore)10:09
vkoskivminute: Have you tried the trackball on old 90s Apple Powerbooks? (150, 170, 180)10:26
minuteyes10:27
vkoskivThose use a polished ball with synthetic ruby as the contact interface. Lovely feel!10:28
vkoskivHow much surface texture does the sensor in the reform trackball want? Would a polished/glossy finish work?10:28
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blueriseminute: let me know when you have another RCM4 ready11:23
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vkoskivLetting the batteries drain today while I'm at work to let the LPC get a better idea of battery capacity12:17
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+ mark_ (~mark@gnu.wildebeest.org)12:39
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minutevkoskiv: a glossy ball might work12:46
+ mjw (~mjw_@2001:1c06:2488:1400:9e5c:8eff:fe8f:a440)13:07
cinap_lenwerkvkoskiv: sounds dangerous13:20
cinap_lenwerki'm not expert on this but everywhere it says "DO NOT DRAIN THE BATTERIES"13:21
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minutecinap_lenwerk: no, it's ok to do that in a controlled way14:23
minutejust remember to recharge them14:23
vkoskivYeah I'm just letting it down to single-digit percentages and then I'll plug it in14:26
vkoskiv@7% now.14:27
vkoskivI'll plug in at 5%14:27
vkoskivThese hinges are really cool.14:28
+ MajorBiscuit (~MajorBisc@wlan-145-94-166-231.wlan.tudelft.nl)14:28
vkoskivAaand plugged in. Uptime 4h 42min14:32
vkoskivMostly idle running htop, but I couldn't resist messing with the thing a few times during the work day :314:32
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+ mtm (~mtm@c-73-27-62-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)16:08
bkeysvkoskiv: Yeah this is a pretty awesome laptop16:16
bkeysSo I wanna experiment with booting from Fedora on the nvme drive16:16
bkeysI think josch gave me some instructions of how to do it while still having uboot on the SD card because I don't want to take this apart and mess with switches on the SoM until I know Fedora is a good long term solution and that I wouldn't be going back to debian for anything16:20
+ vagrantc (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:20)16:20
minutecinap_lenwerk: you did it??? https://mastodon.sdf.org/@SDF/10844410050899116417:03
cinap_lenwerkminute: yeah, got lcdif working yesterday night17:04
cinap_lenwerkminute: i hope to clean up the code and release at the end of coming weekend17:06
minuteamazing work17:07
minutecongratulations cinap_lenwerk!17:07
cinap_lenwerkno thank YOU!! :)17:08
_Eoh my... I just might have to reconsider my choice of fedora if P9 is in good shape on the reform17:43
_Ehaving a kernel small enough to write custom patches for? sign me up17:44
cinap_lenwerk_E: its still a work in progress.17:45
cinap_lenwerk_E: right now, only xhci, ethernet, serial and display work17:45
cinap_lenwerk_E: theres nothing much to install it to yet ;)17:46
cinap_lenwerki'm netbooting, which is fine for driver development and testing17:46
cinap_lenwerkbut not to carry around17:46
cinap_lenwerkhopefully we can fix uboot display init code, then dual booting different os is an option17:48
minuteah, so no SD card driver17:55
minutecinap_lenwerk: that would be great @ uboot17:55
minutethis will also give *BSD a chance cc bluerise 17:55
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vkoskivSo can the system boot directly off the nvme? I thought the choices were only sd or emmc18:49
vkoskivBut the reform-boot-config gives an option to set nvme18:49
vkoskivI tried that, but the reform-init script in my sysv2 emmc recovery does not understand lvm18:49
vkoskivI modified the script and it unlocked the luks volume but just tried to mount the thing directly, which is not correct18:50
vkoskivI'm guessing I now want to flash v3 to my emmc, need to find out how to do that18:50
joschvkoskiv: there are three choices of devices: a) the device with u-boot on it (sd-card or emmc) b) the device with kernel and initrd on it (sd-card or emmc) c) the device with the rootfs on it (sd-card, emmc or nvme)19:00
joschvkoskiv: the dip-switch choose a), the --emmc option chooses b) and the positional argument to reform-boot-config chooses c)19:01
joschyou can use the ROOTPART environment variable if you have a custom device your rootfs is on (useful for example if your rootfs is on luks encrypted lvm2 something)19:01
joschoh technically, b) can now also be a usb-flash drive :)19:08
vkoskivThank you. Is what you just written somewhere? Very nicely expressed.19:14
vkoskivs/written/wrote written/19:15
joschultimately it should probably go into the handbook but i'm neither good nor have fun writing documentation XD19:26
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erledoes anyone have build instructions for an sd card image that are entirely offline?22:57
erlejosch, you added a download of uboot to the mkimage.sh – would it be a good idea to add uboot as a git submodule?23:01
joscherle: what would that improve?23:39

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