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| minute | bkeys: all reforms that we shipped to CS already have the fixes described earlier. but leaving the unit off and uncharged for longer periods of time is still not recommended. that's where a new battery board comes in that is currently in beta test | 00:52 |
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| bkeys | minute: So should I feel safe having the Reform unplugged lets say, overnight? a few days? | 14:31 |
| josch | I just had my reform unplugged for a week and battery is at 99%. | 14:35 |
| bkeys | vkoskiv: I ordered my reform this last November IIRC | 14:59 |
| + ndufresne0 (~ndufresne@static.116.194.216.95.clients.your-server.de) | 15:19 | |
| vkoskiv | Very cool! That means my order could ship any day now | 15:23 |
| vkoskiv | Mine was placed on 20.9.21 | 15:23 |
| bkeys | Let's hope; I am looking forward to getting mine. I am hoping I can pick up this guys work and get Fedora running on the Reform | 15:27 |
| vkoskiv | If I'll mess around with distros, I'd quite like to see if I can get some ARM variant of Arch working on there. | 15:28 |
| vkoskiv | I much prefer the arch package manager and lightweightness over Debian | 15:28 |
| vkoskiv | But I have no idea how good the ARM support is, if any. | 15:29 |
| bkeys | I saw some people on the forums trying to get it working | 15:30 |
| vkoskiv | Woo! Just refreshed and I have a tracking number :^) | 15:30 |
| bkeys | Yeah my email came out of the blue, it was telling me I wasn't gonna get it shipped until July 1st, but before that it would keep making up new dates and blowing right past them | 15:30 |
| vkoskiv | excitement += 100; | 15:31 |
| bkeys | https://www.crowdsupply.com/teledatics-inc/halo-td-xpah | 15:31 |
| bkeys | vkoskiv: Yeah, really | 15:31 |
| bkeys | I am considering getting one of these as the wireless card for my Reform | 15:31 |
| vkoskiv | Yeah, the best estimates have come from Lukas. I pretty much knew mine was going to ship soon when they shared those numbers recently | 15:31 |
| vkoskiv | Kinda funny, I actually already have the leather case, manual and steel side panels for my reform :D | 15:32 |
| bkeys | Yeah Lukas has done a good job about being transparent about everything | 15:32 |
| vkoskiv | I ordered them a few months ago in anticipation | 15:32 |
| bkeys | I didn't get the leather sleeve but I did order the trackball and everything shipped at once for me | 15:32 |
| vkoskiv | Yeah, I ordered those bits separately directly from MNT | 15:32 |
| vkoskiv | They arrived very swiftly. | 15:33 |
| bkeys | Do I need to order steel side panels or do they come with the DIY kit? | 15:33 |
| vkoskiv | I think the DIY kits CS have have the original acrylic ones. | 15:33 |
| vkoskiv | Not sure if new ones will ship with the steel panels or not. | 15:33 |
| vkoskiv | This td-xpah thing looks cool | 15:34 |
| vkoskiv | Not sure if I know enough to make good use of it though | 15:34 |
| bkeys | The CS page makes it seem like only the bottom will be acrylic | 15:34 |
| bkeys | It'd be nice because libre-wifi has always not been great in terms of performance | 15:34 |
| bkeys | And this thing is 100% libre, not just the driver | 15:35 |
| vkoskiv | My RaSCSI just arrived, I'll go pick it up from the post office | 15:35 |
| bkeys | Alright, it was good talking to you | 15:35 |
| vkoskiv | Same! I refreshed like an hour ago and the thing still said processing order on the CS page, and now it changed with the tracking # | 15:35 |
| vkoskiv | Very exciting. | 15:36 |
| bkeys | I didn't have the page up, I just emotionally accepted that it would one day come in. But then a few days ago I got an email out of the blue | 15:36 |
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| minute | bkeys: a few days is fine yes | 16:39 |
| minute | we switched to steel panels in production in general some time ago, but i won't be able to tell if any order shipped with steel or acrylic | 16:40 |
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| josch | vagrantc: so... thanks to your help with distro_bootcmd I can now boot d-i from usb. I still have a u-boot question though. Currently, u-boot tries to find "/dtbs/imx8mq-MNT Reform 2.0.dtb" but it should use /dtbs/freescale/imx8mq-mnt-reform2.dtb. I can change the "MNT Reform 2.0" part by setting the "board" variable but how do I get the freescale part in it? | 17:28 |
| vagrantc | oh wow, haven't seen that sort of problem in a long time! | 17:30 |
| josch | i'm happy to hear that you have seen it ;) | 17:31 |
| vagrantc | i also haven't tried anything recent on the mnt/reform in a while | 17:36 |
| josch | d-i currently fails to find any network devices which is not surprising as the patches aren't upstreamed yet | 17:37 |
| josch | but at least it starts using extlinux.conf! :D | 17:38 |
| vagrantc | oh ... i thought i had network when i tested with a debian kernel ... hrm. | 17:39 |
| josch | maybe because you are using a wifi card that doesn't require non-free firmware? | 17:40 |
| vagrantc | or maybe i just wasn't paying attention and happy to have it boot at all with a serial console | 17:40 |
| josch | :D | 17:41 |
| josch | yeah, and editing extlinux.conf so that it outputs using my S2 is also way more pleasant than editing boot.scr :) | 17:41 |
| vagrantc | i think i had a bad SD card after i last tested the kernel ... started getting filesystem corruption ... or the debian kernel isn't stable | 17:42 |
| josch | vagrantc: I suspect the problem was introduced by this commit https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-boundary-uboot/-/commit/7d4327e9938f6c3f3d016bbf0a89296a0536053c which replaced the #ifdef CONFIG_ENV_VARS_UBOOT_RUNTIME_CONFIG with manually setting the env vars | 17:42 |
| josch | and i think stuff like board, soc etc should be set in the defconfig and not in board/boundary/nitrogen8m_som/nitrogen8m_som.c, correct? | 17:43 |
| vagrantc | sounds plausible ... can look into it a bit mroe later | 17:44 |
| josch | vagrantc: how did you make it find the right dtb? | 17:46 |
| vagrantc | might have still been using flash-kernel | 17:51 |
| josch | well, if you plan to look more into it later, then I'll just go home now :) | 17:52 |
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| josch | vagrantc: huh, running `CROSS_COMPILE=aarch64-linux-gnu- ARCH=arm make flash.bin` modifies at least the settings CONFIG_SYS_SOC and CONFIG_SYS_BOARD in my .config? | 18:17 |
| vagrantc | not sure how much later i'll look into it :) | 18:23 |
| _E | minute: wrt. the shipping invoice, do I need to fill out any of the blank fields or just sign it somewhere and stick 'em in the little customs packet? | 18:48 |
| minute | _E: just sign + date 3 copies and stick in the envelope | 18:59 |
| _E | minute: perfect, it should be on the way this evening | 18:59 |
| _E | thanks again for all your help with this, sorry it's been such a pain | 19:00 |
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| josch | vagrantc: in mkuserland.sh of reform-system-image repo we are adding pwm_imx27,nwl-dsi,ti-sn65dsi86,imx-dcss,panel-edp,mux-mmio,mxsfb,usbhid,imx8mq-interconnect to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules so that the internal display can come up. I guess we also have to somehow include these modules in the debian-installer images and if I understand correctly, we need to add the modules into src:linux under | 21:28 |
| josch | debian/installer/modules/arm64/* -- can you confirm and would you again merge a patch if i can provide one? :) | 21:28 |
| vagrantc | josch: that sounds right, will also want to make sure they're adding in initramfs-tools by default | 21:32 |
| vagrantc | josch: though are these upstream yet? | 21:32 |
| vagrantc | josch: happy to get patches merged that fix things :) | 21:32 |
| vagrantc | or are these modules already present in the debian kernels? | 21:33 |
| vagrantc | (it just needs new driver support to actually work on mnt/reform?) | 21:33 |
| josch | vagrantc: all these modules are already built by the Debian kernel. Some of them (like usbhid) are also already shipped by the debian-installer netboot image. I'll prepare a patch for the remaining modules, sorting them into the right lists. | 21:35 |
| vagrantc | josch: great, feel free to CC and/or ping me or whatever | 21:36 |
| josch | vagrantc: what you said sounds like there is a way to get these list of modules included by mkinitramfs by default? I couldn't find such a list. | 21:37 |
| vagrantc | josch: https://salsa.debian.org/kernel-team/initramfs-tools/-/commit/5f17c03e0508f0d63c23375bbba39d75e2f4608c for an example | 21:39 |
| vagrantc | josch: basically initramfs-tools/hook-functions in the auto_add_modules function and related functions | 21:40 |
| josch | vagrantc: but then those modules would be added to any arm64 initramfs, no? | 21:41 |
| josch | or is there some platform detection? | 21:42 |
| vagrantc | yeah, MODULES=most is added to all initrd | 21:42 |
| josch | that doesn't sound ideal for all the other platforms | 21:43 |
| vagrantc | there is MODULES=dep which does platform detection ... but honestly the platform-specific modules aren't that large i'd prefer to include more than too few | 21:43 |
| josch | okay | 21:43 |
| josch | then i'll file a MR for initramfs-tools as well | 21:44 |
| josch | thanks for pointing me to the right place! | 21:44 |
| vagrantc | happy to be advising rather than slogging through all this myself :) | 21:44 |
| josch | XD | 21:45 |
| tinybronca[m] | <bkeys> "https://www.crowdsupply.com/..." <- [bkeys1](https://matrix.to/#/%40bkeys1%3Alibera.chat) interesting link but what is the status of the firmware for this thing escpecially also firmware to make it work with normal 2,4GHz or 5GHz networks? Also no shipping to EU is bad... | 21:54 |
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