2022-05-01.log

- alex4nder (QUIT: Quit: bbl) (~alexander@wsip-184-186-225-187.sb.sd.cox.net)00:00
vagrantc`00:00
vagrantcACTION waves :)00:00
ex-parrotsuperb00:03
ex-parrotI'm really looking forward to this00:03
joschmaking d-i work should be easier now that the stock Debian kernel at leaves gives me a serial console -- i'll definitely take alex4nder on their offer because i'm completely new to d-i hacking ^^00:20
- Christoph_ (QUIT: Remote host closed the connection) (~Christoph@p4fe732d0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)00:48
vagrantcjosch: i don't think it will be able to land in the debian-installer sd-card-images section, because it requires a binary blob to build01:20
vagrantcthat said, you can easily take the "none" firmware and install the mnt reform2 u-boot onto that01:21
vagrantcunless, i guess, the whole firmware discussion in debian right now ... changes things01:21
vagrantci remember that bluerise wrote some patches for mainline u-boot, but i haven't been able to get them to work recently (i have one version that was successful, but bad luck ever since)01:23
vagrantcbut even those have some non-free firmware bits you need (ram timing, maybe?)01:24
- mtm (QUIT: Ping timeout: 240 seconds) (~mtm@c-73-27-62-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)02:02
+ reform24916 (~trimbeej@2601:545:8202:19d0::b4dd)02:03
- reform24916 (QUIT: Client Quit) (~trimbeej@2601:545:8202:19d0::b4dd)02:04
+ arminweigl_ (~arminweig@sourcehut/user/arminweigl)03:42
- arminweigl (QUIT: Ping timeout: 272 seconds) (~arminweig@sourcehut/user/arminweigl)03:43
* arminweigl_ -> arminweigl03:43
- Guest1426 (QUIT: Ping timeout: 272 seconds) (~nicolas@33-96-142-46.pool.kielnet.net)03:59
+ nsc (~nicolas@150-48-142-46.pool.kielnet.net)04:01
* nsc -> Guest533004:02
- sts-q (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~sts-q@2a01:41e1:2e5e:8400:aaf:f37f:25e2:1cb1)04:36
+ sts-q (~sts-q@2a01:41e1:2e90:1b00:86c7:bdf1:a327:9f6f)04:38
+ reform10151 (~trimbeej@2601:545:8202:19d0::b4dd)05:07
- reform10151 (QUIT: Client Quit) (~trimbeej@2601:545:8202:19d0::b4dd)05:10
- vagrantc (QUIT: Quit: leaving) (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:20)06:09
- Boostisbetter (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (4a410829d7@irc.cheogram.com)06:25
+ Boostisbetter (4a410829d7@irc.cheogram.com)08:48
- sts-q (QUIT: Ping timeout: 240 seconds) (~sts-q@2a01:41e1:2e90:1b00:86c7:bdf1:a327:9f6f)09:41
+ Christoph_ (~Christoph@p4fe73e0d.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)12:45
- buckket (QUIT: Remote host closed the connection) (~buckket@pdp8.buckket.org)13:34
+ sts-q (~sts-q@2a01:41e1:2e90:1b00:fc51:e3cc:8102:f600)14:15
rnjqvy5[m]what's the latest status on the standalone keyboard? shop page isn't updated. is it possible to buy it?14:39
cinap_lenrekjoe7: testing the kernel on my t48016:00
cinap_lenrekjoe7: no issues16:00
cinap_lenrekit has 8 cores16:00
cinap_lenrekanyway, this is a good reproducer16:02
cinap_lenrekif it happens so early on boot for you16:02
cinap_lenrekyou can give me that kernel image and i run it in vmx16:02
cinap_lenrekoh wrong window :)16:04
+ reform31851 (~trimbeej@2601:545:8202:19d0::b4dd)17:18
- reform31851 (QUIT: Client Quit) (~trimbeej@2601:545:8202:19d0::b4dd)17:18
+ reform2433 (~trimbeej@2601:545:8202:19d0::b4dd)17:28
reform2433Openconnect & remmina give me viable remote admin platform for all use cases now. Couldn't be happier.17:28
reform2433I would like to get hold of a working sysimage V3 though17:29
- reform2433 (QUIT: Quit: reform2433) (~trimbeej@2601:545:8202:19d0::b4dd)17:34
- ggoes (QUIT: Ping timeout: 248 seconds) (~gregf@fsf/staff/ggoes)17:42
joschreformer: you just need a working sysimage-v3 or you need an upgrade path from what you currently have to v3?17:50
joschreformer: whoops, sorry, wrong autocomplete. I meant to write reform243317:51
+ vagrantc (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:20)17:56
joschvagrantc: re debian-installer for reform: yes and no18:02
joschvagrantc: I don't see dfsg free mainline u-boot support for the reform pop up any time soon, similar to how it will still take a long while before upstream kernel includes all the necessary bits, but:18:03
joschvagrantc: if you just want to start debian-installer from a usb-stick, then you don't need u-boot on the usb-stick, so debian-installer can boot without it18:04
vagrantcjosch: so then there isn't anything you need to add to sd-card-images ... you can use the "none" firmware if you bring your own u-boot.18:19
joschvagrantc: not really, I still need a boot.scr for u-boot18:19
vagrantcjosch: though, at some point, you may need to start adding things to the relevent kernel module .udebs18:19
vagrantcjosch: enable distro_bootcmd in your u-boot builds, i'm sure even that old version of u-boot should support it18:20
vagrantcunless they intentionally removed it...18:21
+ ggoes (~gregf@fsf/staff/ggoes)18:21
- ggoes (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~gregf@fsf/staff/ggoes)18:26
joschvagrantc: thanks for the pointer! I'm reading doc/README.distro now...18:28
vagrantcseems like the main missing kernel parts at the moment are the various forms of video output?18:31
vagrantce.g. hdmi output and output on the panel?18:32
cinap_lenrekgood news, got 9front to userspace! timers ticking19:43
cinap_lenrekwas just stupidity, redistributor register offsets being wrong19:43
slo/20:25
+ ggoes (~gregf@fsf/staff/ggoes)20:35
- ggoes (QUIT: Ping timeout: 272 seconds) (~gregf@fsf/staff/ggoes)21:09
+ ggoes (~gregf@fsf/staff/ggoes)21:10
+ reform27116 (~trimbeej@2601:545:8202:19d0::b4dd)21:13
- reform27116 (QUIT: Client Quit) (~trimbeej@2601:545:8202:19d0::b4dd)21:15
- ggoes (QUIT: Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb2+b1 - https://znc.in) (~gregf@fsf/staff/ggoes)21:25
+ ggoes (~gregf@fsf/staff/ggoes)21:29
+ dustfing` (~user@d75-159-229-143.abhsia.telus.net)21:34
- dustfinger (QUIT: Ping timeout: 272 seconds) (~user@d75-159-229-143.abhsia.telus.net)21:36
cinap_lenrekhello world from rc shell :)22:03
Boostisbettercool, I wrote once in here from a HP 200 LX running MS-DOS 5.022:26
Boostisbetterthere is just something awesome about using something not really designed for a task, for that task. 22:30
BoostisbetterAnyway, I just wanted to give another shout out to minute. In building the Penkesu I have had to deal with QC issues and have seen just how difficult it is to make a quality product. The Reform is legend that regard, and I know it must have taken a lot of work and effort. Kudos MNT!!!22:32
+ reform28775 (~trimbeej@2601:545:8202:19d0::b4dd)23:23
reform28775I have had a periodic recurrence of this unresponsice LPC problem (oled does not respond to long or short press of circle button)23:24
reform28775I have to pull the battery plugs to fix it23:25
reform28775The LPC reset doesn't do anything. I wonder if it is a keyboard problem23:25
sigridtry pulling out keyboard's usb cable and attaching it back then23:29
sigridthat's the issue I have and it helps23:29
minutecinap_lenrek: plan9 kernel? :323:37
reform28775Thanks, it is probably easier than the batteries23:42
reform28775Does anybody know if there's a working V3 system image anyhwere? The most recent from the pipeline doesn't boot for me (there's a big thread about it)23:44
reform28775There are some solutions in that thread but alas all the links are dead23:45
joschreform28775: can you ping me about the sysimage-v3 tomorrow? It's currently 10 minutes to midnight in my TZ but I feel responsible for sysimage-v3 and will try out the latest image from the pipeline tomorrow as well. Which thread are you referring to?23:50
reform28775Certainly! I appreciate any help23:51
joschvagrantc: distro_bootcmd seems to be exactly what I want and seems to allow us to get rid of this stupid nested loop to try multiple boot devices: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-boundary-uboot/-/blob/master/board/boundary/nitrogen8m_som/nitrogen8m_som.c#L351 -- alas I first have to find a hdmi device to debug my u-boot changes. But if I understand it correctly, if this works, it should 23:52
joschautomatically even support extlinux.conf in addition to boot.scr.23:52
reform28775It is the beta thread; https://community.mnt.re/t/mnt-reform-system-image-v3-beta/74423:53
reform28775You mention a revised flash.bin but the artifact has expired I think.23:54
reform28775I am quite happy to wait; this is all working for me so far23:55
reform28775I did try mkimage.sh build but it failed just after mesa/sway complaining about an object being evaluated as bool23:56
reform28775But that might be something weird on my VM 23:56
joschreform28775: you are probably not running mkimage.sh from the sysimage-v3 branch23:58
reform28775I'll keep playing with it23:58

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