2022-04-30.log

+ bkeys (~Thunderbi@66.115.189.236)01:30
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+ mtm (~mtm@c-73-27-62-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)04:09
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+ sts-q (~sts-q@2a01:41e1:2e5e:8400:8bf:4876:61c1:a18f)04:40
Boostisbetterdoes anyone have any idea about the performance delta that exists between the ix.8 and a pi zero 2 w? I mean it is clear that the ix.8 is more powerful, but I'm curious about how much of that has to do with the NVME I am using in my Reform. 09:34
ex-parrotwhat storage are you using with the pi? an SD card will be much much slower than nvme most of the time09:46
ex-parrotpi 2 z w is quad core ARM cortex a53 clocked at 1ghz and 512mb of RAM. the CPU cores at least are similar to the reform09:48
ex-parrottho I think the reform clocks it at 1.5ghz instead of 1ghz09:49
ex-parrotand there's a lot more cooling09:49
Boostisbetteryeah, exactly, but you can overclock the zero to 1.2ghz. The storage I/O is without a doubt the single biggest performance roadblock. 09:53
BoostisbetterBUT, it is nice to see just how powerful the zero is if you can get around the I/O limitations. 09:53
ex-parrotyeah pretty cool eh09:55
Boostisbetterlack of memory holds it back for sure. It chokes on large displays simply because it chokes on a lack of display memory09:55
ex-parrotI assume they're out of stock everywhere 09:55
ex-parrotwhich is another issue09:55
ex-parrotevery Pi thing is out of stock here for the next few months apparently09:55
Boostisbetterkind of. You can get them but from scalpers selling it for nearly triple the price and more. 09:55
ex-parrotlovely09:56
BoostisbetterI was lucky with mine09:56
ex-parrotI got my first Raspberry Pi 1 as a souvenir when I was in Malaysia from a random shop at the top of Low Yat Plaza09:56
sts-qHi, swaybar shows wifi connection quality, usualy like "NET 17%" or "NET x"...10:42
sts-qWhat is a good way to log this, say every 10m. Currently i use:10:42
sts-qnmcli -t -f rate,signal,bars  dev wifi list |tr '\n' ':'10:42
sts-qRight, or any better ideas?10:42
sts-q(( My feeling is, signal is good (44%) after start up, ok as long as i don't 10:42
sts-qtouch the reform (33%) but get lost at some point when i use the computer.))10:42
sts-q.10:42
sts-qI would like to install a larger antenna and am open for recommendations.10:42
sts-qgreetings :)10:44
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+ sts-q (~sts-q@2a01:41e1:2e5e:8400:8bf:4876:61c1:a18f)10:47
Boostisbettersts-q: check the MNT forum. There is an article there about wifi signal strength, and folks talked about the solutions they used, to include external antennas. 10:56
+ Christoph_ (~Christoph@p4fe732d0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)11:14
sts-qOK, thanks!11:34
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+ alex4nder (~alexander@wsip-184-186-225-187.sb.sd.cox.net)22:39
alex4nderhey22:39
alex4nderACTION dist-upgrades22:41
alex4nderdid I hear correctly that someone has kernel packages for reform in upstream debian?22:51
joschalex4nder: not quite. vagrantc merged https://bugs.debian.org/1009858 so the official Debian kernel now boots on the reform but there is no display output yet (only serial)22:54
joschfor display support, we have to upstream more patches22:54
joschonce the patches are in linux next, we can backport them into the package built by Debian until they land in a stable release22:55
alex4nderah ok23:00
alex4ndermakes sense23:00
alex4nderwhat's the uboot situation look like in that case?  uboot on eMMC/SD and kernel on the primary Debian filesystem?23:02
+ vagrantc (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:20)23:09
ex-parrotmorning23:09
ex-parrotthat's great news23:09
ex-parrothistorically I used flash-kernel on the novena but i'm not sure that's in vogue / necessary here is it?23:09
joschalex4nder: yes, the reform can load u-boot from sd or emmc and from there you can load kernel and initrd from sd, emmc, usb or nvme23:33
joschex-parrot: flash-kernel is still the go-to but some people like vagrantc would like to see it abolished by a better solution :)23:34
joschex-parrot: flash-kernel is used right now but not strictly necessary23:35
alex4nderjosch: ah yah, I meant more from "what's going to be the idiomatic Debian installer method?"23:36
joschalex4nder: i haven't yet gotten the debian installer to work23:37
alex4nderI know that's usually open ended because of how hard it is to standardize SBCs/ARM/uboot setup23:37
alex4nderok cool23:37
joschalex4nder: my plan is to add the reform2 as a target to debian-installer so that it shows up here: https://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/arm64/daily/netboot/SD-card-images/23:40
- bkeys (QUIT: Quit: With every step we take, danger will follow closely) (~Thunderbi@66.115.189.236)23:43
alex4nderjosch: sweet.  let me know if you need any help; I've done a bunch of Debian installer hacking in the past, for a proprietary product23:50
alex4ndertesting or otherwise23:50
+ rnjqvy5[m] (~rnjqvy5mi@2001:470:69fc:105::2:526)23:54
+ bkeys (~Thunderbi@66.115.189.236)23:54

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