2022-04-19.log

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sknebelminute: just checking: linking SEPA payments to orders is a manual process someone has to get to, so even if its been a few days and should have transferred by now its not a reason to freak out if it hasnt appeared in the order status yet? 12:33
sknebel(dont want to rush anyone, just would like to know if theres been a problem :D)12:34
joschscops: just a quick status update from my side: I didn't forget about the eMMC problem but due to some unrelated problems (linux 5.17.3 doesn't build) I still didn't test out the eMMC issue12:36
+ mjw (~mjw_@2001:1c06:2488:1400:9e5c:8eff:fe8f:a440)12:39
scopsjosch: Thx for the update. :) there is no rush 12:40
sigridi have a fix for 5.17.3 if you need it, josch 12:58
joschsigrid: that'd be awesome, thank you! :D12:59
sigridi did not test hdmi with it, mind you, but it builds :)12:59
sigridhttps://github.com/ftrvxmtrx/void-packages/commit/79739e988b74e1433c6dbf31576353973152b04d 13:00
sigridsee the change for srcpkgs/mntreform2-kernel/patches/mnt5000-imx8mq-import-HDMI-driver-and-make-DCSS-compatible.patch there13:01
joschsigrid: awesome, thank you! :)13:02
joschIs anybody working on upstreaming these patches?13:02
sigridi don't think so13:27
- khm (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~kfx@wopr.sciops.net)13:27
joschi'm afraid i never interacted with the kernel ML -- maybe somebody who has experience there could try again?13:31
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minutejosch: that would be lynxeye (lucas stach), but he is not in this channel... you can reach him at dev@lynxeye.de14:41
joschminute: cool, thanks!14:42
minutehe did most of the upstreaming so far14:42
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sknebel(nvm, my question from earlier has been resolved :))16:32
jfredBoostisbetter: you have me really tempted to build a Penkesu now16:50
Boostisbetterjfred: trust me I understand17:06
sknebelthe key labelling described in the repo for the Penkesu is also fascinating. burning some nail color powder into the keys with a laser engraver17:07
+ khm (~kfx@wopr.sciops.net)17:08
jfredHaving used a laser cutter fairly regularly and knowing how certain materials can do very bad things when burned like that… that scares me XD17:08
BoostisbetterYeah, Penk is a legend, for sure. I am just going with blank keys. I was going to try to beg minute for a set, but they don't sell those like that (and I understand). 17:09
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jfredI still want to try and get my Reform booting NixOS off the NVMe drive (or Guix but that seems more difficult at this point) and then I’ll maybe use it as a daily driver… but the Penkesu seems like a nice portable option17:15
jfredBoostisbetter: Oh, I’ve never used a Pi portable seriously so I’m wondering… can it suspend or do you have to power it down each time?17:15
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sknebelafaik the Pis don't have sleep modes really, or at least there is no support for whatever some of the hardware might be able to do. so certainly no suspend-to-RAM, and even suspend to disk was unclear if it works or not last I looked at that. so probably fresh boots every time17:26
BoostisbetterFor now it has to be shutdown just like old at and xt computers. I'm thinking about seeing if the zero 2w might be able to support a low power state. 17:26
BoostisbetterBut as of right now it does not. It is intended to be used in more embedded cases and there a suspend state isn't so crucial. 17:27
jfredAh, yeah - that’s a shame17:27
jfredI guess if I wanted to use it with an encrypted disk then I’d probably want to use a key file or a Yubikey with a shorter PIN, if it even supports booting like that17:28
_Eminute: I got my hands on a lab power supply in case there's any testing I can do locally for the overheating motherboard18:02
minute_E: cool! the plan would be to figure out (very carefully) which voltage rail is the one that is shorted (consumes a lot of power)18:04
minute_E: the power supply has a current limiting setting i suppose?18:04
_Eyeah, it does18:04
_Eand it's theoretically compatible with sigrok, which is a nice plus18:04
minutecool18:06
minute_E: i would suggest to apply 3.3V with a low current limit (100mA?) on the LPC_VCC first, to see if that trips the current limit or not18:07
minute_E: (black lead on a motherboard screw hole for example, for GND)18:08
minute_E: do you have dupont cables?18:09
minute(jumper cables)18:09
minute_E: asking because on the Expansion Port (J22), Pin 16 is GND and Pin 15 is LPC_VCC. you could plug male-male dupont cables in each and attach the clamps of the lab supply on the other ends18:11
_Eminute: yeah, I have a few18:15
_Ehopefully some are male to male18:15
_EI neglected to mention I do have one of those cheap combination USB logic analyzers/scopes in case that's useful18:16
minutesknebel: it's manual, correct. i "captured" your payment earlier today. thanks!18:16
_Eit hit overcurrent protection almost instantly18:20
minuteok! let me reproduce here real quick18:21
minuteis the cpu module plugged in our out?18:22
_EI'll write up a forum post with the entire timeline/symptom list18:22
_Eit's currently out18:22
_Ethere is absolutely nothing attached to the motherboard at this point18:22
minutethat's good18:22
_Eminute: https://community.mnt.re/t/death-by-fedora/91218:57
_Ethat's the full timeline18:57
minute_E: i'll get to it later, thanks19:12
minutei will talk with alex glow here in around 45 minutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FocBIXgXgJg19:12
_Ecool, if there's any other information you'd like, ping me here19:13
_Eit'll probably get my attention faster than a reply to the thread19:13
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BoostisbetterFor those curious, the Penkesu is fully functional now. The new pro micro is installed and the unit is whole. Works great! So minute, I'm tidied over until the Pocket Reform is ready. 19:51
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khmmy new hobby is watching rebgl demos from Revision get into a fistfight with my laptop's gpu21:26
khms/rebgl/webgl/21:26
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sts-qAn other mnt-reform up and running! He is upgrading packages, currently.23:37
sts-qHow can i change keyboard layout for sway to "de"?23:37
sts-qIn gnome it is correct, console and sway not.23:37
sts-q'reform-config' says command not found?23:37
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