| kfx | minute: replaced the CR1220 cell, got my rtc back. Thanks for the tip! | 00:36 |
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| chartreuse | Weird that 2.92v is too low, might have been much lower in circuit when loaded down | 01:22 |
| kfx | the replacement battery measured 3.28V for the record | 01:32 |
| chartreuse | Wonder what the voltage shows in circuit, if maybe something is loading it down. Though don't short anything if you do choose to measure it | 01:50 |
| kfx | that's why I was asking about test pads earlier. I haven't looked at the circuit diagram to choose measurement points | 02:12 |
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| chartreuse | You can probably measure it off the holder itself? Let me look | 02:36 |
| chartreuse | Ah okay the negative side isn't easilly reachible | 02:36 |
| kfx | right | 02:37 |
| kfx | no hurry, anyway | 02:37 |
| chartreuse | I think negative is system ground, so you could measure from the shield of the USB port to the metal housing of the battery connector | 02:37 |
| chartreuse | Looks to be connected to it | 02:38 |
| kfx | I didn't wanna drop probes across it without knowing what other components are on that path to ground | 02:38 |
| chartreuse | With a high impedence multimeter it wouldn't damange anything measuring that voltage from ground to the postive edge | 02:38 |
| chartreuse | Like any digital multimeter | 02:38 |
| chartreuse | I'll just pull up the schematics to confirm | 02:40 |
| chartreuse | Kicad 6 is being a little weird on the reform, first time opening it since updating | 02:42 |
| chartreuse | Might just have to go with the new system image finally with things breaking in Debian now | 02:43 |
| chartreuse | Okay it's just locking up on loading schematic. I think this install is just a bit broken now with everything | 02:52 |
| kfx | thanks ot the internet, I can drop a part on my motherboard and break chartreuse's computer! | 02:53 |
| chartreuse | It was already breaking somewhat XD | 02:53 |
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| * nsc -> Guest1961 | 03:41 | |
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| ex-parrot | kfx: good news, my soshine batteries arrived | 03:57 |
| ex-parrot | further good news, they're trivially easy to de-protect. | 03:57 |
| ex-parrot | photo incoming... | 03:57 |
| ex-parrot | https://finch.am/cruft/soshine-protection.jpg | 03:58 |
| ex-parrot | I will remove this carefully from all my cells toninght and verify that the reform is still happy to charge them etc :) | 03:58 |
| ex-parrot | there's even a further clear plastic cover over the cell under the decorative one, so the risk of shorting isn't even that increased | 04:02 |
| - Ar|stote|is (QUIT: Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.) (~linx@149-210-29-113.mobile.nym.cosmote.net) | 05:38 | |
| + Ar|stote|is (~linx@149-210-29-113.mobile.nym.cosmote.net) | 05:38 | |
| kfx | ex-parrot: good stuff. I have on my to-do list a plan to have one soshone protected cell in each pack and the rest unprotected... since they're in series, the soshone should 'open the circuit' and protect the whole pack, I think... | 06:14 |
| ex-parrot | ah yeah interesting | 06:18 |
| ex-parrot | I'm gonna get the new battery boards | 06:18 |
| ex-parrot | do you find that the slightly logner cells are an issue? | 06:18 |
| ex-parrot | the soshines are a bit longer even with the protection removed | 06:19 |
| kfx | I haven't had problems, but I lined the outside of the battery clips with electrical tape so they won't contact anything accidentally | 06:19 |
| kfx | sooner or later I'll take the tape off and paint rubber on them, plasti-dip or something | 06:21 |
| kfx | I also plan to buy the new boards. I want the new trackball cup too so I'm waiting to get them all at once | 06:21 |
| ex-parrot | I want the side panels and cups and boards all at once plz :) | 06:22 |
| kfx | I made my own side panels :) then I mounted huge goofy antennae to them. | 06:22 |
| ex-parrot | I think I will follow your lead and add some kapton to the battery terminals on the outside | 06:25 |
| ex-parrot | it's juuuuust close enough to the case to make me uncomfortable | 06:25 |
| kfx | I had the same feeling. It didn't touch, but it sure made me nervous | 06:26 |
| ex-parrot | well the semi-naked cells look pretty good | 06:49 |
| ex-parrot | https://finch.am/cruft/taping.jpg | 06:50 |
| ex-parrot | https://finch.am/cruft/installed.jpg | 06:50 |
| ex-parrot | seems to be balancing / charging so far. will see how it ends up | 06:51 |
| kfx | very industrial | 06:51 |
| ex-parrot | yeah it feels right :) | 06:52 |
| kfx | how will you resist stenciling radiation symbols on them? | 06:52 |
| ex-parrot | drop and run | 06:52 |
| ex-parrot | man | 06:53 |
| ex-parrot | I am going to print 1 thru 8 on my label printer just for auditing reasons | 06:53 |
| ex-parrot | the label printer can do a trefoil... | 06:53 |
| ex-parrot | that is awfully tempting | 06:53 |
| ex-parrot | hey it's my machine's 1 year birthday last week and I didn't even notice | 06:54 |
| kfx | raditaion trefoils on the left, biohazard symbols on the right | 06:54 |
| ex-parrot | you're tempting me awfully | 06:54 |
| kfx | "it's powered by mutated algae" | 06:55 |
| ex-parrot | actually I should prob just do what I've got stuck over the webcams on all my machines: a general HAZARD symbol | 06:55 |
| ex-parrot | because it's not that inaccurate, and still \m/ | 06:55 |
| kfx | your batteries would benefit from a dim green backlight glow | 06:55 |
| ex-parrot | I was thinking about swapping the charge LED... | 06:56 |
| kfx | dimmed by pwm, getting brighter as the cpu load increases | 06:56 |
| ex-parrot | could just drop some lighting gel fragments over some of the other white LEDs in there | 06:56 |
| chartreuse | That's kinda what I did. I put rubylith tape over all the leds to darken them to a lower intensity red | 06:56 |
| ex-parrot | very very nice | 06:57 |
| ex-parrot | I used to have a G3 iBook with the breathing white sleep LED where I did the same | 06:57 |
| ex-parrot | with a gel scrap | 06:57 |
| kfx | I put m-nu on mine. It was originally meant to turn brass military rank insignia black... | 06:59 |
| - jvalleroy (QUIT: Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.) (~quassel@user/jvalleroy) | 07:00 | |
| ex-parrot | hmm one cell's voltage seems to be dropping | 07:00 |
| ex-parrot | I hope that sorts itself out | 07:00 |
| ex-parrot | I mean from the keyboard display anyway, which is kind of not a strict measure of the cell voltage while charging anyway | 07:00 |
| ex-parrot | maybe I won't use my dodgy USB-C to Reform adapter for this | 07:01 |
| ex-parrot | that's better, now it's actually charging | 07:02 |
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| ex-parrot | it seems like the USB-C PD chip in this cable doesn't always negotiate 20v properly, and the red LED in the reform still comes on even if you're only supplying 5v through the barrel jack which can be misleading :P | 07:02 |
| kfx | nothing worse than hardware that lies to you! | 07:03 |
| ex-parrot | it's not lying it's just my expectations that were inaccurate :P | 07:03 |
| ex-parrot | I added some molykote DX to the screw threads in the battery board posts too. I've been doing that every time I remove a component recently to try and make sure the aluminium doesn't gall or wear with repeated service | 07:04 |
| chartreuse | Guess 5v is too low for the boost supply in the Reform to take | 07:04 |
| kfx | I've been thinking about just putting steel screws in the case, then embedding high-power magnets in the bottom panel | 07:04 |
| kfx | until we have graphical output from u-boot, I'm taking the panel off a lot just to get uart output | 07:05 |
| chartreuse | Not for aluminum issues, but did use loctite blue on some of the screws to prevent any chance of them accidentally working loose | 07:05 |
| chartreuse | Like the screen ones, the ones that hold the battery boards, and the main board | 07:05 |
| chartreuse | For the bottom panel ones I'd also be concerned with accidentally overtightening them with taking it off and on repeatedly, and cracking the acryllic | 07:06 |
| ex-parrot | my Novena was very much held together with loctite and good intentions | 07:06 |
| ex-parrot | currently it's just plain not held together :P | 07:07 |
| - GNUmoon (QUIT: Ping timeout: 240 seconds) (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) | 07:45 | |
| ex-parrot | so far so good, it seemed to charge them. doing a discharge cycle now | 07:48 |
| ex-parrot | I'm a bit wary that the fine print on the battery wrapper said "minimum 15000mAh" | 07:48 |
| ex-parrot | I foresee a further set of replacement cells in the nearish future :P | 07:48 |
| ex-parrot | hmm | 07:55 |
| ex-parrot | sudden voltage drop and power off | 07:55 |
| ex-parrot | I think two of the cells were charged a lot higher than the rest when I started, probably not a great way to go | 07:56 |
| ex-parrot | hopefully the controller will work out how to balance them | 07:56 |
| + oomono (uid328183@id-328183.tinside.irccloud.com) | 08:06 | |
| chartreuse | It should be able to discharge them to balance the pack | 08:15 |
| ex-parrot | I think I'll just charge them all externally to the same point first | 08:16 |
| ex-parrot | and save it the trouble | 08:16 |
| + GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) | 08:44 | |
| chartreuse | Yeah I think it can only balance by discharging | 09:13 |
| + MajorBiscuit (~MajorBisc@2a02:a461:129d:1:193d:75d8:745d:e91e) | 09:13 | |
| ex-parrot | having two cells at nearly full charge and all the rest almost dead is prob a bad starting point :P | 09:14 |
| + Major_Biscuit (~MajorBisc@c-001-015-045.client.tudelft.eduvpn.nl) | 09:16 | |
| chartreuse | Yeah, that'd probably take a bit to balance out | 09:18 |
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| Boostisbetter | kfx: so was it just that you needed another battery? | 11:25 |
| Boostisbetter | your antenna mod looks pretty good. I bet your reception is seriously amazing with those | 11:25 |
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| minute | kfx: wow ok!! | 11:47 |
| + Kooda (~kooda@natsu.upyum.com) | 11:47 | |
| sknebel | kfx: upgrade-hack: IR-UART blinking out of the bottom? ;) | 11:48 |
| minute | chartreuse: oh kicad 6 is also broken for me recently >:/ | 11:48 |
| minute | on reform, that is | 11:48 |
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| - mtm (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~mtm@c-73-27-62-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) | 13:02 | |
| minute | does anyone here plan to go to EMF in june (in the UK)? | 13:31 |
| sknebel | yep | 13:32 |
| minute | also, if anyone here (who has a Reform) would like to represent MNT on hacker camps etc around the world, please get in touch ^^ | 13:34 |
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| + vagrantc (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:20) | 17:17 | |
| liquorice | Anyone know a good brand for replacement batteries? | 17:19 |
| liquorice | Seems like a couple of mine can’t be charged externally anymore | 17:20 |
| minute | the default ones are JGNE | 17:23 |
| kfx | Boostisbetter: yes, the battery fixed it, and yes those antennae increase my wifi throughput about 10x. having a hard time keeping the nuts tight though; might need to find locknuts for them | 17:59 |
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| + chomwitt (~chomwitt@2a02:587:dc0d:b200:f874:1c07:de06:7cf8) | 18:54 | |
| liquorice | Blah, might have fried my monitor circuit similar to https://community.mnt.re/t/battery-is-not-charging/270/28 any chance that just replacing the resistor will fix it? | 18:57 |
| Boostisbetter | kfx: awesome! Was it difficult drilling the Reform base for the mounting of the antennas? | 19:39 |
| kfx | Boostisbetter: I didn't drill in the base. I put the holes in the aluminum side panels I had cut -- the bezels that surround the ports | 19:40 |
| kfx | I can switch back to the 'stock' antenna just by reinstalling it and swapping out the side panels | 19:41 |
| Boostisbetter | OH!!! I just got the steel ones, and I could probably do the same. | 19:41 |
| Boostisbetter | Although, honestly, I have never had wifi ranges issues. | 19:41 |
| kfx | I went from about 7mbit to about 70 in my office | 19:42 |
| minute | liquorice: yes, relatively easy to replace with a soldering iron and a big blob of solder on it | 19:56 |
| liquorice | minute: cool, I’ll give it a shot! | 19:57 |
| minute | liquorice: good luck! | 19:59 |
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| + erlehmann (~erle@ip5f5bf491.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) | 20:08 | |
| Boostisbetter | kfx: that is a huge improvement. Plus the mod looks super cool | 21:58 |
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| * Guest1961 -> nsc | 22:27 | |
| ex-parrot | ok update, I balanced out the cells roughly, stuck them in | 22:41 |
| ex-parrot | left charging overnight | 22:41 |
| ex-parrot | all perfectly settled on 3.2v | 22:41 |
| ex-parrot | running a discharge now but it seems to be discharging nice and even too | 22:41 |
| ex-parrot | looking fwd to battery boards v2 :) | 22:41 |
| - sl (QUIT: Quit: Lost terminal) (~sl@beastie.sdf.org) | 22:42 | |
| ex-parrot | so far so good on soshine cells anyway, once the protection caps are removed | 22:45 |
| ex-parrot | they still have a spot welded nipple on the + side that pushes the battery clips out a bit more than I'd like | 22:45 |
| ex-parrot | but it's tolerable | 22:45 |
| ex-parrot | one can hardly argue with the aesthetic, though I've added some number / hazard labels to mine: | 22:47 |
| ex-parrot | https://finch.am/cruft/soshine-balanced-labeled.jpg | 22:47 |
| vkoskiv_ | You also have some kapton tape covering the reverse side of the battery terminals? | 22:48 |
| ex-parrot | I added this just because the soshine cells are a bit longer and they pushed the clips out further, I was worried about them contacting the case in e.g. an impact | 22:49 |
| ex-parrot | another option might be to try and pop the welded on nipples off the + terminal | 22:49 |
| ex-parrot | https://finch.am/cruft/soshine-protection.jpg they're even longer again if the protection isn't removed | 22:50 |
| + GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) | 23:04 | |
| - GNUmoon (QUIT: Ping timeout: 240 seconds) (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) | 23:44 | |
| vagrantc | heh. just realized i had the mntre.com sources.list entry commented out ... wonder what i've been missing :) | 23:44 |
| + GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) | 23:44 | |
| vagrantc | not much, looks like | 23:47 |
| + alex4nder (~alexander@ip98-171-191-229.sb.sd.cox.net) | 23:48 | |
| alex4nder | hey | 23:48 |
| alex4nder | I just got my reform.. assembled it, but I'm having issues getting it to actually boot | 23:49 |
| alex4nder | I don't have wifi or an nvme in it, I'm just trying to boot off of SD | 23:49 |
| alex4nder | Circle-B shows what looks like good battery status.. it's plugged in.. Circle-1 gives me the reform logo on the OLED and then nothing else | 23:49 |
| - erlehmann (QUIT: Quit: Just say no, then Putin can not legally invade your nation without your consent.) (~erle@ip5f5bf491.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) | 23:50 | |
| + erlehmann (~erle@ip5f5bf491.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) | 23:50 | |
| chartreuse | Did you wait a few seconds? Takes around 2 before the display will kick in | 23:51 |
| alex4nder | yah, I'm getting nothing.. on the underside I can see the 5v and 3.3v LEDs are on | 23:52 |
| alex4nder | there are 2 red LEDs near the SD card slot.. the one closest blinks slowly.. like once a second | 23:52 |
| alex4nder | actually more like 2.5 seconds off.. 6 (?) seconds on | 23:53 |
| vagrantc | oh, it looks like the repository location has changed... | 23:53 |
| - erlehmann (QUIT: Client Quit) (~erle@ip5f5bf491.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) | 23:54 | |
| + erle (~erle@ip5f5bf491.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) | 23:54 | |
| alex4nder | ACTION looks at the operator's handbook | 23:55 |
| chartreuse | Sounds like it might be booting, I'd check if your screen is connected correctly | 23:55 |
| alex4nder | yah, I'll put it and reseat it | 23:55 |
| chartreuse | That the power is in the right connector, and the display is not offset by a pin or such | 23:55 |
| alex4nder | nope, display's not offset.. power cable is charging the battery packs.. SD card is in | 23:56 |
| chartreuse | The second LED by the SD card slot turns on when the external power supply is connected | 23:56 |
| alex4nder | cool | 23:57 |
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