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| piroko | friend of mine gave me a viewsonic p95f+B a few months ago. I have it hooked up to a MiSTer. completely changes the feel of the cores | 16:11 |
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| Boostisbetter | Oh yeah, I remember Viewsonic used to be consider one of the premium CRT manufactureres. | 17:50 |
| Boostisbetter | Oh yeah, I remember Viewsonic used to be consider one of the premium CRT manufacturers. | 17:51 |
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| kfx | as someone who lived through that era, the only thing I miss about CRTs is the pixel density. every other aspect of those things fucken sucked | 18:03 |
| Boostisbetter | haha, yeah, but don't you miss being able to get a CRT tan? | 18:07 |
| Boostisbetter | crank the brightness up and cook | 18:07 |
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| kfx | uhh | 18:16 |
| kfx | when I Was a kid a "CRT tan" was an ironic phrase because computer nerds were pallid, waxy things | 18:16 |
| Boostisbetter | yeah that is the joke | 18:17 |
| Boostisbetter | hahaha | 18:17 |
| kfx | my most vivid CRT memory is being proud of my 21" NEC Syncmaster... until I got an apartment on the fifth floor of the building | 18:17 |
| kfx | and I had to carry that 70-pound monstrosity up every excruciating step | 18:17 |
| Boostisbetter | Ahh NEC, and a 21" on top. Dude, you were l33t for sure with that. But yeah, 5th floor... was a good shoulder, back, and arm workout. | 18:18 |
| Boostisbetter | well legs as well, of course | 18:18 |
| kfx | I would have paid a lot of money for an elevator in that building | 18:19 |
| swivel | for a long time when print was still ubiquitous CRTs were considered the only emissive displays capable of getting anywhere close to what you'd get in the printed output, I wonder if that's still technically true but nobody cares because print is no longer the primary way content is consumed | 18:38 |
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| kfx | swivel: LCDs have finally eclipsed CRTs in pixel density. my NEC would drive 2048x1536, but that's only 128 dpi, for instance | 18:53 |
| swivel | it wasn't the pixel density that was the issue at the time, reflective displays/paper have superior color precision and CRTs at the time were the best emissive display to get close to paper | 18:59 |
| kfx | weird. I'd never heard CRTs were any better at color. I know they can't reproduce cyan either | 19:02 |
| sknebel | early TFTs were quite crap, but afaik they quickly caught up, at least at the pro-levels | 19:03 |
| sknebel | I also kept a 21" Nokia CRT for quite a while until I could/wanted to afford an LCD with more pixels. tried it briefly a few years later and was surprised how I could have ever used that long-time. no clue if it had aged badly or just totally used to something different now | 19:05 |
| swivel | it was actually for a long time that my sister's ad agency continued using CRTs and scoffed at LCDs, well into maturity | 19:05 |
| swivel | keep in mind that CRTs had been around for a long time and on the high end they were quite nice | 19:06 |
| sknebel | sure, "we're used to it and it works, why risk spending lots of money on good LCDs and then find they are not good enough" and/or mess with recalibration etc are totally reasons to stick with them | 19:07 |
| swivel | it was just that they were producing print, we're talking an era where CCFLs were lighting LCD panels, their color temperature generally sucked | 19:09 |
| swivel | don't forget it was like a decade of pretty shitty displays everyone loved just because they were flat light and used less power | 19:10 |
| swivel | reclaimed desk space was nice too ;) | 19:17 |
| swivel | huh, the wikipedia page for CRTs still notes better color reproduction in CRTs over LCDs | 19:24 |
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| vkoskiv_ | I'm mashing X to doubt. The whole process of setting up a CRT feels... Imprecise. | 22:33 |
| vkoskiv_ | I'm sure there are industry type CRTs that are better, though. | 22:34 |
| swivel | https://www.displaymate.com/crtvslcd.html | 22:48 |
| kfx | I disagree with a lot of these | 22:56 |
| kfx | "crts are less expensive" -> maybe 20 years ago "LCDs can't show different resolutions/aspect ratios" -> an 8k LCD sure can display a LOT of resolutions and aspect ratios just by letterboxing etc | 22:57 |
| kfx | I think the document just hasn't aged well | 22:57 |
| swivel | it's possible, I was openly wondering if the color reproduction accuracy is still true today - the linked document looks like the kind of things that were true for quite a long time. | 23:42 |
| swivel | right now my impression is that oled is the most likely to be superior to crt in the color dept | 23:42 |
| swivel | i miss the amoled display of my old nokia n9 | 23:46 |
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