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| josch | okay, so this is the remaining diff between stock Debian kernel and what I figured is needed for the reform to boot: http://paste.debian.net/1231838/ | 08:58 |
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| josch | I'm not familiar with kernel development so I'm just doing trial-and-error. Since the list is now so small: does anybody see anything obvious that is not needed for the reform? | 08:59 |
| josch | (for reference, this is the full config resulting from it: https://mister-muffin.de/p/nkZ9.txt ) | 09:11 |
| Boostisbetter | when installing Reform-tools 1.3 over 1.2 do I need to restart the system, or simply refresh sway (via system + shift + c)? | 09:41 |
| Boostisbetter | I wouldn't think a reboot would be necessary for the changes that 1.3 had over 1.2 | 09:42 |
| Boostisbetter | I was able to safely remove connman now as well. | 09:42 |
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| josch | Boostisbetter: sway is configured by files in your $HOME so no restarting will change anything there nor will installing any packages | 09:53 |
| josch | Boostisbetter: there are only very few cases (involving the kernel) where rebooting is the recommended option instead of just restarting a service, for example | 09:53 |
| josch | (but even in case of service restarts: those happen automatically when you install or remove packages) | 09:54 |
| ex-parrot | damn, one cell in my reform died | 09:58 |
| ex-parrot | what's the state of the art in finding replacement cells? :P | 09:58 |
| ex-parrot | minute: I think I've concluded that we just don't have any good LiFePO4 18650 sources in country here | 10:52 |
| ex-parrot | until someone tells me otherwise | 10:52 |
| minute | ex-parrot: oh no | 10:52 |
| minute | ex-parrot: sounds like an import business opportunity | 10:52 |
| ex-parrot | I've ordered some "SoShine" cells from AliExpress, we'll see what happens :D | 10:52 |
| ex-parrot | yeah... | 10:53 |
| minute | ah yeah, aliexpress should be a good source | 10:53 |
| ex-parrot | air freighting li-ion in to NZ is hard | 10:53 |
| ex-parrot | I bet lifepo4 wouldn't be as much of an issue but people probably don't understand either | 10:53 |
| minute | how are the shipping times from aliexpress to you? | 10:53 |
| minute | yeah unfortunately | 10:53 |
| ex-parrot | highly variable. I paid for DHL to avoid shipping issues | 10:53 |
| ex-parrot | so probably not too long | 10:53 |
| minute | how many mAhs? | 10:54 |
| ex-parrot | I assume this one cell dying is related to that time I critically undervolted the whole thing, so I've ordered all new cells | 10:54 |
| minute | good call | 10:54 |
| ex-parrot | https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32693860069.html?spm=a2g0o.9042311.0.0.47d64c4d7NTtTw <-- ordered this | 10:55 |
| ex-parrot | will report back if they seem good | 10:55 |
| minute | cool, thanks! | 10:55 |
| ex-parrot | _b | 10:56 |
| ex-parrot | I've been cooking the dead cell at 500mA on my bench PSU for an hour or so but the voltage isn't coming up | 10:57 |
| ex-parrot | so I think there's no hope there | 10:57 |
| Boostisbetter | serious bummer. | 11:13 |
| Boostisbetter | hopefully aliexpress pulls through for you | 11:13 |
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| Boostisbetter | I need to get a bench psu myself. | 11:24 |
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| bluerise | minute: cool! Looking forward | 13:16 |
| josch | minute: should there be a first-boot script which resizes the second partition to fill the whole SD card, asks the user for the keyboard layout and lets the user choose a username and timezone? | 13:22 |
| minute | josch: perhaps this is a good idea, especially if it can write the sway input config file as well based on that selection. we already resize the sd card partition during sd card writing here, though | 13:52 |
| josch | minute: Maybe I'm missing something. A user who downloads reform-system.img and writes it on their SD card will not have the second partition fill the card unless they know which commands to run. | 13:55 |
| minute | josch: that is correct. perhaps we can make the script check if there's a bunch of empty space / the partition has the original size and then offer resizing? | 14:03 |
| josch | I'll file a merge request once I have something that works. I'm still working on the kernel right now. | 14:04 |
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| kfx | ex-parrot: I have those soshine cells. They're protected, which results in them working differently than you might expect. On the one hand, they won't die of undervoltage. On the other hand, they have their own idea about when they're 'done' charging, meaning if you leave the reform plugged in for a several days you'll come back to a dead battery! (Not damaged, just low.) And the onboard BMC can't | 16:20 |
| kfx | ever figure out what the right percentage is. | 16:20 |
| kfx | They work fine -- I've been using them for months; they're just different and I wanted to give you a heads up. | 16:20 |
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| flowy | josch: i've been doing some rpi4 stuff lately and their debian images do something like this automatically, expanding root partition to fill free space on microsd. maybe some stuff can be copied if theirs is a sane implementation | 17:50 |
| josch | That's a good idea. I haven't looked at the Debian pi images yet and don't know how they are doing it. | 17:50 |
| sknebel | kfx: interesting that they discharge. I guess their circuitry thinks its being "overcharged" and disconnects it and then it doesnt switch back to charge mode once the voltage has fallen? | 17:51 |
| flowy | i'm way more keen on using rpi4s for things these days now that they're more debian based | 17:52 |
| flowy | oh, for the other people in this channel who have been concerned about using signal desktop on aarch64, this is promising: https://github.com/signalapp/libsignal-client/commit/f88908936260bb10e3bafb1d093c4d4ccab78f82 | 18:01 |
| flowy | it feels more likely now that there will be some sane support, maybe at least a good flatpak | 18:02 |
| kfx | sknebel: that's exactly my conclusion | 18:02 |
| sknebel | so the fix is unplugging the reform briefly? or taking the cells out? | 18:04 |
| kfx | usually just unplugging it and plugging back in works | 18:05 |
| kfx | once I had to reseat the battery cables to get the LPC to come back on | 18:05 |
| sknebel | i.e. I wonder if the firmware could have a mode where it recognizes that and toggles them after e.g. 2 days to get them back on track | 18:06 |
| kfx | I don't know how I feel about special-casing weird batteries. I feel like the interplay between protected cells and the battery controller is already super complicated, and minute is designing battery carriers that work differently than these already | 18:08 |
| sknebel | yeah, probably more "individual hack" than "standard feature" | 18:10 |
| kfx | unprotected cells are cheaper and more readily available so I'd probably focus on getting those well-supported | 18:15 |
| chartreuse | Yeah at least currently it does some weird things if a cell were to cut out. Like you can even remove one of the middle cells and it'll run (which is shouldn't) | 18:26 |
| chartreuse | Will be nice to get the upgraded cell board for added protection | 18:26 |
| kfx | I'm still patiently waiting to be able to buy the new trackball housing :) | 18:31 |
| kfx | I'm starting to think maybe I have to break down and buy a 3d printer... | 18:31 |
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| Boostisbetter | flowy: yeah I am using build somebody compiled that was shared here. Official support world be awesome! | 19:05 |
| Boostisbetter | flowy: yeah I am using a build somebody compiled that was shared here. Official support world be awesome! | 19:06 |
| Boostisbetter | kfx: do you mean the housing shipping with reform's now? | 19:06 |
| Boostisbetter | Or an even newer one? | 19:06 |
| kfx | the revised one with the steel bearings | 19:07 |
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| Boostisbetter | kfx: yeah the Reforms shipping now have that design. Mine does, and I got it last December | 19:18 |
| Boostisbetter | I can't really give a frame of reference, but I really like the trackball. It is one the main features to me. | 19:18 |
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| verx | hmm I wonder if that means the trackball modules for sale on the shop are the updated housing. I'll order one right now if that's the case | 22:49 |
| minute | verx: yes, they are | 23:04 |
| minute | but we will offer also just the cup | 23:04 |
| minute | i'll try hard to get that in the shop in this week | 23:05 |
| verx | great, thanks! never hurts to have spare parts | 23:15 |
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