| mntmn | bluerise: promising | 00:01 |
|---|---|---|
| bluerise | Yup. That's why I'm interested in it. | 00:04 |
| bluerise | Well, no, actually because we have good Rockchip support in OpenBSD | 00:04 |
| bluerise | and rockchip offer higher performance SoCs than those i.MX8M ones.... | 00:06 |
| mntmn | heh | 00:07 |
| - Christoph_ (QUIT: Remote host closed the connection) (~Christoph@p4fe73fb4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) | 00:28 | |
| kfx | bluerise: is there an explicit list of which SoCs OpenBSD supports? I've been able to boot it on approximately none of my rockchip devices | 00:31 |
| bluerise | RK3399 works well, RK3288 should work as well | 00:34 |
| bluerise | You need to supply U-Boot+DTB yourself | 00:34 |
| bluerise | there's too many devices for us to supply U-Boot+DTB for each, that's the issue with all those cheap things | 00:34 |
| kfx | thanks | 00:36 |
| bluerise | Though for some we also build u-boot | 00:37 |
| bluerise | https://github.com/openbsd/ports/blob/master/sysutils/u-boot/Makefile#L77 | 00:37 |
| bluerise | Those are then of the u-boot package http://cdn.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/packages/aarch64/u-boot-aarch64-2021.10p3.tgz | 00:38 |
| bluerise | and we also have a package with all current Linux dtbs http://cdn.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/packages/aarch64/dtb-5.14p1.tgz | 00:38 |
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| + mtm (~mtm@c-73-27-62-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) | 03:08 | |
| + mtm- (~mtm@c-73-27-62-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) | 03:09 | |
| + sl (~sl@beastie.sdf.org) | 03:18 | |
| - GNUmoon (QUIT: Ping timeout: 276 seconds) (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) | 06:49 | |
| josch | mntmn: your hourly cronjob for refreshing reform-debian-repo works! I also see that the pipeline for reform-system-image finally succeeded within 38 minutes. Can you re-trigger the reform-system-image pipeline for sysimage-v3 so that it picks up the latest changes from reform-debian-repo? Thanks! | 07:11 |
| - erlehmann (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~erle@ip5f5bd57a.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) | 07:31 | |
| + erlehmann (~erle@ip5f5bd57a.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) | 07:32 | |
| - erlehmann (QUIT: Ping timeout: 240 seconds) (~erle@ip5f5bd57a.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) | 08:02 | |
| + GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) | 08:06 | |
| + erlehmann (~erle@ip5f5bd57a.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) | 08:16 | |
| * nsc__ -> nsc | 08:33 | |
| * nsc -> Guest4905 | 08:34 | |
| Guest4905 | josch: can you also trigger building linux-kbuild-* package? I'd like to continue running the 5.17+ kernel but need some dkms modules to build | 08:35 |
| - Guest4905 (QUIT: Ping timeout: 240 seconds) (~nicolas@154-99-142-46.pool.kielnet.net) | 08:45 | |
| josch | I'm not sure what Guest4905/nsc was talking about. | 08:55 |
| + nsc_ (~nicolas@89-98-142-46.pool.kielnet.net) | 08:55 | |
| josch | nsc_: hi, I'm not sure what you are talking about -- can you rephrase? | 08:55 |
| nsc_ | When attempting to build dkms modules (e.g. via 'apt install zfs-dkms'), linux-headers need to be installed. But with the package from reform-debian-repo, the required linux-kbuild-5.17 package is missing: | 09:06 |
| nsc_ | linux-headers-5.17.0-rc3-arm64 : Depends: linux-headers-5.17.0-rc3-common (= 5.17~rc3-1~exp1+reform1) but it is not installable | 09:06 |
| nsc_ | Depends: linux-kbuild-5.17 (>= 5.17~rc3-1~exp1+reform1) but it is not installable | 09:06 |
| josch | ah indeed, yes we can build linux-kbuild-5.17 as well | 09:08 |
| nsc_ | great, thanks! And thanks a lot for all your pending work!! | 09:09 |
| - nsc_ (QUIT: Ping timeout: 245 seconds) (~nicolas@89-98-142-46.pool.kielnet.net) | 09:16 | |
| + nsc (~nicolas@89-98-142-46.pool.kielnet.net) | 09:17 | |
| * nsc -> Guest4164 | 09:18 | |
| josch | Guest4164: thanks for prompting! This is yet another reason why it's useful to build the kernel as a Debian package instead of just building straight from kernel.org git and I didn't think of that use-case before. | 09:22 |
| josch | Guest4164: linux-kbuild-* is built now: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/jobs/640/artifacts/browse/repo/pool/main/l/linux/ Within an hour that package should also land on the mirror. | 09:57 |
| Boostisbetter | mntmn: can you use the Reform with the batteries disconnected from the mainboard but the power adapter plugged in via the barrel connector? | 10:29 |
| mntmn | Boostisbetter: sure | 10:29 |
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| + MajorBiscuit (~MajorBisc@wlan-145-94-218-48.wlan.tudelft.nl) | 10:45 | |
| + GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) | 11:01 | |
| + GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) | 11:19 | |
| - GNUmoon (QUIT: Ping timeout: 276 seconds) (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) | 11:22 | |
| - MajorBiscuit (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~MajorBisc@wlan-145-94-218-48.wlan.tudelft.nl) | 11:41 | |
| + MajorBiscuit (~MajorBisc@wlan-145-94-218-48.wlan.tudelft.nl) | 11:41 | |
| + Christoph_ (~Christoph@p54bf6224.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) | 11:56 | |
| + mjw (~mjw_@2001:1c06:2488:1400:9e5c:8eff:fe8f:a440) | 12:38 | |
| mntmn | josch: cool, i triggered a new build | 12:47 |
| - mtm (QUIT: Ping timeout: 250 seconds) (~mtm@c-73-27-62-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) | 13:02 | |
| - mtm- (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~mtm@c-73-27-62-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) | 13:03 | |
| Boostisbetter | mntmn: I think this is something you just brag about a bit more on the product features page. The ability to check battery status whether the computer is on, suspended, or off is something no other laptop, I'm aware of, can do. On top of that very few will actually work without a battery. (I'm only aware of Thinkpads and the Framework) | 13:16 |
| Boostisbetter | mntmn: and while it isn't practical, the Reform is an excellent lipofe charger. | 13:16 |
| mntmn | Boostisbetter: hmm true. old ibooks/macbooks had this feature, where they had a button on the battery and a bunch of LEDs that showed the charge | 13:16 |
| mntmn | but they removed that later | 13:16 |
| Boostisbetter | mntmn: just = should | 13:17 |
| Boostisbetter | yeah, it is truly disheartening how many good features were removed to encourage the ridiculous product refresh cycles and ravenous purchasing. | 13:18 |
| Boostisbetter | I mean I wouldn't have a problem with that if all the products today still supported repair, longevity, etc. | 13:18 |
| mntmn | i discussed the new battery board with 3 different engineers now (mitch altman yesterday) and i think i'm ready to order the first pcbs | 13:18 |
| mntmn | (the one that is supposed to disconnect all battery lines if total voltage is <20V) | 13:19 |
| Boostisbetter | mntmn: as with most things MNT has on the drawing board count me in on ordering them when ready | 13:19 |
| mntmn | Boostisbetter: hehe for sure!! | 13:19 |
| Boostisbetter | mntmn: Although the Pocket Reform and that mini trackball has me drooling. | 13:19 |
| Boostisbetter | mntmn, pocket reform keyboard as well. | 13:20 |
| mjw | mntmn, when do you think that new battery board will be available? | 13:35 |
| mntmn | mjw: after i've built, tested and confirmed it's good! | 13:36 |
| mntmn | btw a bunch of our packages have arrived at mouser | 13:36 |
| mntmn | the bulk is still waiting for air traffic space though | 13:36 |
| mjw | I still want to sent in my mnt reform for a "refresh" since I still haven't been able find someone to do the soldering and I would love to get the newer trackball and have someone look at why some batteries always drain till empty (might be the soldering, but maybe I did fry the battery board?) | 13:38 |
| mjw | currently I am simply running without batteries, which is fine, I don't much move on this couch anyway :) | 13:38 |
| mjw | But I also don't want to part from it because I love working on it so much. | 13:39 |
| mntmn | mjw: i see... btw we found some crazy 2000mAh batteries now | 14:02 |
| mntmn | but in germany | 14:02 |
| flowy | mntmn: pray tell | 14:28 |
| flowy | pray link thee | 14:28 |
| mntmn | hehehe i fear that people here will grab all stock but ok | 14:28 |
| mntmn | https://www.eremit.de/p/18650-3-2v-2-000mah-lifepo4 | 14:28 |
| flowy | stock fomo is real | 14:29 |
| mntmn | we put some of these in fully assembled reforms now | 14:29 |
| mntmn | because we couldn't get others | 14:29 |
| mntmn | before april or so | 14:29 |
| mntmn | shortages here and there | 14:29 |
| flowy | thanks though, i ordered some. cute batts. | 14:40 |
| Boostisbetter | good lipo from panasonic or samsung are usually around 2500, does the chemical make up of lifepo really differ that much? | 14:42 |
| sknebel | yes | 14:43 |
| sknebel | (precise numbers you find vary all over the place by how much worse in density they are, but they are) | 14:44 |
| Boostisbetter | still the safety properties of lifepo are worth it. | 14:46 |
| Boostisbetter | I have no complaints with the batteries at all. I love them actualy. | 14:46 |
| mntmn | also, lifepo has more cycles | 14:46 |
| mntmn | and higher current capability | 14:46 |
| Boostisbetter | I have no complaints with the batteries at all. I love them actually. | 14:46 |
| mntmn | usually | 14:46 |
| Boostisbetter | which is more important to me anyway. | 14:46 |
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| + mtm- (~mtm@c-73-27-62-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) | 15:08 | |
| * Guest4164 -> nsc | 16:08 | |
| * nsc -> Guest2103 | 16:09 | |
| Guest2103 | josch: thanks! linux-kbuild-5.17 is now installed here, could you also a let linux-headers-5.17.0-rc3-common be built? (Sorry for not mentioning it in the morning already; I thought it would pop-up automatically, somehow) | 16:10 |
| - Ar|stote|is (QUIT: Ping timeout: 240 seconds) (~linx@149-210-0-231.mobile.nym.cosmote.net) | 16:10 | |
| josch | Guest2103: already done: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/commit/89d00e5783c815cd58a571b23c17c9f00df32df2 https://mntre.com/reform-debian-repo/pool/main/l/linux/ | 16:11 |
| Guest2103 | josch: yes, perfect. Thanks | 16:16 |
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