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| kfx | we had a node hardware fail and the machine rebooted and there was nothing in our logs about the actual failure state | 00:20 |
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| kfx | turns out a DIMM died, the system OOMed, and the OOM killer nuked systemd-journald | 00:20 |
| + Guest64 (~Guest64@205.175.106.145) | 00:24 | |
| Guest64 | When will RAM be upgradable? 4 GB really isn't a lot | 00:25 |
| sigrid | isn't a lot for what? | 00:33 |
| bluerise | I'm not involved, but the SoM has soldered RAM that can't be upgraded like that. It has a maximum of 4G. | 00:34 |
| bluerise | Thankfully it's a SoM, so SoMs can be replaced. A future revision might sport more memory. E.g. the CM4 adapter + a RaspberyPi CM4 with 8G or a Radxa CM3/SOQuartz with 8G. | 00:35 |
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| bluerise | Came and went, aha | 00:39 |
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| mntmn | hmm | 12:51 |
| mntmn | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 12:51 |
| mntmn | blender : Depends: libopenexr24 but it is not installable | 12:51 |
| mntmn | Depends: libilmbase24 but it is not installable | 12:51 |
| + nio (~nio@2001:470:69fc:105::172d) | 12:51 | |
| mntmn | suspish | 12:51 |
| mntmn | also: | 12:51 |
| mntmn | kicad : Depends: libglew2.1 (>= 1.12.0) but it is not installable | 12:51 |
| Boostisbetter | Guest64: You'd be surprised at how usable 4gb is. However, I too am looking forward to getting an upgrade that includes more RAM. Being able to do multiple things without paging and using the swap is great. Still not complaining, the Reform works great as is. | 12:54 |
| vkoskiv | Over the last year I've validated that my essential daily workflow fits into 2GB of RAM, so I'm not at all worried about 4GB on the reform | 12:55 |
| vkoskiv | Though of course a big reason why I got one is the upgradeability. | 12:55 |
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| + Christoph_ (~Christoph@p54bf61fe.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) | 13:06 | |
| + mark_ (~mark@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 14:18 | |
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| - erlehmann (QUIT: Quit: Just say no, then the virus can not enter your body without your consent.) (~erle@ip5f5bd566.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) | 14:59 | |
| + mtm (~mtm@c-73-27-62-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) | 15:09 | |
| josch | mntmn: is this with blender built from reform-debian-packages? Then I'll investigate. | 15:45 |
| mntmn | josch: no, it's the old custom package | 15:59 |
| mntmn | i shall try the new one next | 15:59 |
| josch | yes the error is expected for the old package because several shared libraries bumped their SONAME and thus the source package needs to be rebuilt against the new versions which re-generates the binary package dependencies | 16:03 |
| josch | this is also why i put blender into that repo in that way because we now need to regularly rebuild it against new library versions and fix incompatibilities were they occur to keep the old blender alive with new software around it | 16:03 |
| mntmn | oh interesting | 16:16 |
| mntmn | cool | 16:16 |
| mntmn | thanks! | 16:16 |
| mntmn | ok my own 5.15 with rebases patches boots fine cc plomlompom | 16:19 |
| mntmn | but wm8960 trouble even with lynxeye's different dts method hmmmm | 16:20 |
| mntmn | weird, pipewire's pulse emulation now shows the soundcard as "Audio Pro" and there's no more headphone/speaker setting | 16:22 |
| sigrid | hm. temperature is reported to be 28C. wonder if there is a mistake | 16:29 |
| sigrid | (it does not change) | 16:29 |
| mntmn | could be kernel/hw bug | 16:32 |
| sigrid | I think so. it wasn't ever lower than 50C with the load I have | 16:33 |
| mntmn | i suspect reboot will change it | 16:35 |
| mntmn | ah, my mistake @ wm8960. didn't actually push the new audio section | 16:40 |
| mntmn | ok now it works, and that's cool, now all audio frequencies appear to work, not only 48khz | 16:44 |
| sigrid | nice! | 16:44 |
| - freakazoid343 (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~matt@2603:9000:cf03:86c3:4cb5:1453:777d:3b64) | 16:48 | |
| + freakazoid343 (~matt@2603:9000:cf03:86c3:4cb5:1453:777d:3b64) | 16:49 | |
| mntmn | in case you're interested, here is my updated DTS and patchstack for 5.15 https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/tree/sysimage-v3/reform2-imx8mq/template-kernel | 16:49 |
| mntmn | (haven't yet tested HDMI though, will do later today) | 16:50 |
| mntmn | next attempt: kernel 5.16 :3 | 16:53 |
| mntmn | neat, all patches apply cleanly on 5.16 | 16:54 |
| mntmn | heh > Nintendo Joy-Con and Pro Controller support (HID_NINTENDO) [N/m/y/?] (NEW) | 16:56 |
| mntmn | > y | 16:56 |
| sigrid | :D | 16:56 |
| mntmn | ok, regression, display doesn't come up on 5.16 vs 5.15 | 17:03 |
| mntmn | 5.15 it is, then | 17:03 |
| sigrid | that explains why it did not work for me I guess | 17:05 |
| mntmn | yeah makes sense | 17:05 |
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| sigrid | I am still surprised reform can manage google meet calls with video of every participant. audio cracks up a lot but hey | 18:07 |
| sigrid | obviously it's not even hw accelerated decoding | 18:08 |
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| bleb | sigrid: do you have a webcam worth recommending for that? | 18:35 |
| sigrid | nope. i have one laying around that i am going to try out today, going to report my findings then | 18:42 |
| sigrid | i'll also get ffmpeg with v4l2 stateless (?) decoding patches | 18:43 |
| + erlehmann (~erle@ip5f5bd566.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) | 18:49 | |
| mntmn | sigrid: neat. i've been using talky a lot on reform, and uhhh jitsi | 18:59 |
| mntmn | josch: IIRC you said it's possible to use the CI output on gitlab directly as the debian repo, or? | 19:03 |
| josch | mntmn: cool, i'll then use your patch stack and update the kernel built by reform-debian-packages | 19:03 |
| josch | mntmn: yes, I posted a working link, I think? | 19:04 |
| mntmn | josch: yeah need to grep logs... because i think that might be more transparent to everyone, the repo on our webserver is kind of more obscure | 19:04 |
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| mntmn | josch: that way, everybody could see the source + build output if they wanted | 19:04 |
| josch | mntmn: the problem with the repo on gitlab is, that the job id will change on every rebuild | 19:04 |
| mntmn | josch: ah so the URL changes... | 19:05 |
| josch | yes | 19:05 |
| mntmn | hmmmmm | 19:05 |
| josch | to increase transparency, the repo could also host the Debian source packages the binaries were built from | 19:06 |
| mntmn | yeah | 19:07 |
| mntmn | i wonder if i could make a redirect URL to the newest build ID and if apt would follow that | 19:08 |
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| + buckket (~buckket@pdp8.buckket.org) | 19:08 | |
| mntmn | yo buckket | 19:09 |
| buckket | Hello! | 19:10 |
| Boostisbetter | Not completely relevant but something maybe we all can appreciate | 19:12 |
| Boostisbetter | Framework just open sourced their EC firmware for their laptop: | 19:13 |
| Boostisbetter | https://community.frame.work/t/open-sourcing-our-firmware/14033/3 | 19:13 |
| mntmn | interesting, getting error 500 https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/jobs/513/artifacts/raw/repo | 19:18 |
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| + aliosablack (~chomwitt@ppp-94-67-1-27.home.otenet.gr) | 20:33 | |
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| + mtm (~mtm@c-73-27-62-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) | 20:35 | |
| sigrid | hmmm temperature seems always broken now | 21:03 |
| sigrid | I wonder what happened | 21:03 |
| + Christoph__ (~Christoph@p54bf61fe.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) | 21:03 | |
| mntmn | sigrid: meh... same with "sensors" tool in a terminal? | 21:03 |
| sigrid | ;; cat /sys/devices/virtual/thermal/thermal_zone*/temp | 21:05 |
| sigrid | 26000 | 21:05 |
| sigrid | 27000 | 21:05 |
| sigrid | 26000 | 21:05 |
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| mntmn | hmmmm https://lkml.org/lkml/2021/10/12/152 | 21:13 |
| josch | mntmn: yes, because those artifacts were removed 3 days ago | 21:14 |
| josch | mntmn: you were looking at job 513 but the most recent job is 518 | 21:15 |
| mntmn | jesus https://lkml.org/lkml/2021/10/11/550 | 21:16 |
| mntmn | josch: 518 gives 404 though | 21:17 |
| josch | mntmn: yes, https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/jobs/518/artifacts/raw/repo will not work because repo is a directory and you will not get directory listings with /raw/ | 21:18 |
| mntmn | josch: ahhhhh thanks for enlightening me :D | 21:19 |
| mntmn | ok too late for me today to understand why mxsfb / lcdif doesn't probe in 5.15 | 21:19 |
| mntmn | (the dual display setup doesn't work) | 21:20 |
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| kfx | why does gitlab return 500 server error instead of 410 gone | 22:03 |
| kfx | I'm gonna bring this up with our sales rep >:( | 22:03 |
| + MajorBiscuit (~MajorBisc@86-88-79-148.fixed.kpn.net) | 22:28 | |
| mntmn | kfx: ah you're at gitlab? ^^ | 22:31 |
| kfx | mntmn: no, but my lab is a paying customer of gitlab | 22:32 |
| kfx | I have landed code in gitlab but I don't work there | 22:32 |
| mntmn | kfx: understood! | 22:36 |
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| Boostisbetter | mntmn: what is the maxium amps the 8 lipofe batteries could safely provide? Specifically could they be used to provide 100 watts of power (3.91 amps)? | 23:36 |
| kfx | maximum sustainable amperage output is going to vary by battery model | 23:36 |
| Boostisbetter | Yeah I'm just assuming 8 @ 3.2V each | 23:37 |
| Boostisbetter | 25.6V combined @ 3.91 Amps for 100 watts | 23:37 |
| kfx | yes, but different model batteries are designed for different amp draw | 23:37 |
| Boostisbetter | I'm specifically talking about the batteries in the reform | 23:38 |
| kfx | that's what I'm saying. a battery from manufacturer A might be rated for 20A draw, while a battery from manudacturer B might be rated for 5A draw. | 23:38 |
| Boostisbetter | As far as I'm aware all of the Reform's batteries come from one supplier | 23:38 |
| Boostisbetter | IE: are one manufacturer's brand | 23:38 |
| kfx | they're JGNEs rated for 5.4A draw | 23:39 |
| kfx | at least that's what I received | 23:39 |
| Boostisbetter | same here | 23:39 |
| Boostisbetter | ok, then they should absolutely be able to do sub 4 amps | 23:39 |
| Boostisbetter | the reason I am asking is because I was thinking about how it would be cool to make your own battery pack. Using 8 of those in series. | 23:40 |
| Boostisbetter | For my application I would need 100 watts of power at least start up, it would go down to around 30 watts after start up though | 23:40 |
| kfx | sure, for like 20 minutes | 23:40 |
| kfx | there are commercially-available lifepo4 batteries available better suited to taht kind of load | 23:41 |
| Boostisbetter | I'm thinking the 100 watts is really just to get the system to post | 23:41 |
| Boostisbetter | it would be for about 6 seconds before dropping to a much lower wattage | 23:41 |
| Boostisbetter | I think the hard part would be sourcing a bms that could handle them. | 23:42 |
| Boostisbetter | and the discharge | 23:42 |
| Boostisbetter | Maybe I should just look up if there are power banks already avalaible that use 18650 cells | 23:42 |
| kfx | there are tons; this stuff is popular for anything from e-bikes to campervan supplies | 23:44 |
| kfx | here is an example site to browse around https://www.batteryspace.com/LiFePO4/LiFeMnPO4-Batteries.aspx | 23:44 |
| kfx | they also sell power management boards and so forth | 23:44 |
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