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| technomancy | my batteries has been charging for around 8 hours and they're showing 5.3V, 0.5V, 0.8V, 1.2V, 1.2V, 0.0V, 0.0V, and 0.7V | 06:29 |
| technomancy | that seems ... really bad | 06:29 |
| technomancy | before this charge my house lost power for about 2 hours but it had a full charge when the outage started but somehow it drained down to nothing with the screen off. I didn't think that would be long enough to wreck a cell and get it to the point it couldn't be recharged tho. | 06:30 |
| Boostisbetter | that does seem like really low voltage on those cells. One of them being charged to 5.3V is VERY wrong. | 07:24 |
| dj-death | technomancy: looks like you may have several dead cells | 08:17 |
| dj-death | technomancy: I had a 5.3V value on the dead cell when AC was connected, it showed 0.0V when AC was disconnected | 08:18 |
| ex-parrot | hmm does the LPC have to be awake for charging to start? | 08:47 |
| ex-parrot | I noticed the red LED comes on but I was drawing 0.0 amps according to my PSU until I woke up the LPC by doing a bettery check | 08:48 |
| ex-parrot | the cell voltage isn't guaranteed to be what the cell voltage "actually is" | 08:48 |
| ex-parrot | it will be the charge voltage for instance while it's trying to charge, kind of | 08:48 |
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| * nsc -> Guest6698 | 11:26 | |
| + doctorhoo (~hanno@194-18-252-127-no2005.tbcn.telia.com) | 11:41 | |
| doctorhoo | Just for the record: I just had a failed resume from suspend. The display didn't come up despite several attempts to wake via the LPC. Nothing in the logs since the suspend. This was with ruff's systemd scripts, installed wifi+nvme and updated system (via apt) | 11:45 |
| doctorhoo | Does anyone have suggestions on how to debug this next time it happens? | 11:46 |
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| Boostisbetter | doctorhoo, I don't have anything. I experienced something similar after nearly 20+ resumes without issue. Honestly even if this happens every once in a while, I'm happy with it. | 12:22 |
| Boostisbetter | I do support anyone able to track down the problem further. | 12:22 |
| Boostisbetter | I suspect the same issues that Purism are having with the Librem 5 and suspend are being experienced here in some form or other. | 12:22 |
| Boostisbetter | so I'm not surprised, but I am happy with the progress that seems to be getting made. | 12:23 |
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| doctorhoo | Boostisbetter: I haven't used the suspend functionality quite as often yet: only 4 times (if I picked the right string to grep for in the logs) one of which failed. Not many sample points yet ;) | 13:05 |
| doctorhoo | As I am aware of there being remaining issues, I save my files before suspending, so this is not too big a deal. Still, I like the suspend feature to be able to pick things up where I left them, so if there is anything I can do while the system is in this particular state or anything else to try to investigate/mitigate this issue, then I'd be up for it! | 13:07 |
| mntmn | i think we'll need to instrument the kernel over uart, and be it with tons of printks | 13:16 |
| mntmn | in the suspend code | 13:16 |
| mntmn | and then check if there is any difference between success and hang cases | 13:16 |
| doctorhoo | mntmn: that does sound kinda fun -- haven't played with the kernel in ages :) | 13:39 |
| doctorhoo | mntmn: do you have any hopes that the purism patches help this situation? There seem to be several recent ones relevant to the imx8mq and PM/suspend | 13:41 |
| mntmn | i have not seen those patches, but would be interesting of course | 13:45 |
| doctorhoo | mntmn: just two that noticed with a casual search (and these might actually completely irrelevant for the reform, I don't claim I understand them): https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/linux-next/-/commit/a1681ddd4865b2a9a742acf581a9fdd0b734c166 | 13:56 |
| doctorhoo | https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/linux-next/-/commit/9a602d2f6272d37ddbdd791af37e4d16b5139159 | 13:56 |
| mntmn | doctorhoo: first one is about mipi csi (camera) which we don't currently use | 13:58 |
| mntmn | doctorhoo: second is more interesting but afaik we don't have DDR freqscale enabled. worth another look though | 13:59 |
| doctorhoo | mntmn: thanks, looking into kernel sources always gives me abbreviation overload, so I appreciate your explanation! | 14:00 |
| bluerise | mntmn: oh god I didn't realize the mipi-dsi pinouts weren't standardized | 14:14 |
| bluerise | wow... | 14:14 |
| bluerise | Also I pulled out one of the ... things where you screw the CPU screws into... | 14:14 |
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| technomancy | I took my batteries out and tested them with a multimeter and they are all between 0.5 and 0.8V | 19:14 |
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| technomancy | I don't understand why the reform thinks one is at 5.3V and others are at 0 | 19:14 |
| mntmn | technomancy: that's just a clipping bug | 19:44 |
| mntmn | technomancy: 5.3 is just the max value. it basically means something like "can't measure" | 19:44 |
| technomancy | aha, whew. that's less worrying =) | 19:45 |
| technomancy | I guess I'll just let it "rest" for a while with batteries outside the device and see if bringing them back in later lets it recalibrate correctly | 19:45 |
| mntmn | yeah, good luck | 19:46 |
| flowy | mntmn: whoa so i see you released new keyboard options! i was the one nagging you about a potential kit so i could use white switches. could i order a standalone keyboard with white switches, open it, swap the board in my reform? i'd have to flash a different firmware, right | 19:46 |
| mntmn | flowy: yes | 19:46 |
| flowy | woo, cool | 19:47 |
| flowy | mntmn: can you get some choc robins? that would be real interesting. from what i'm reading, the choc whites aren't any more tactile than the choc browns | 20:07 |
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| mntmn | flowy: ?? whites are clicky, browns are not | 20:14 |
| * erle -> erlehmann | 20:16 | |
| flowy | sorry. i guess my terminology is poor. i personally find clicky switches to be both clicky and tactile. typing this on mx blues, for example. there's a bump and a click. my problem with the kailh choc browns is that i can barely feel any bump at all. they feel more like scratchy tactiles, something i've heard repeated by basically everyone. they feel almost linear. so i was hoping the choc whites would be | 20:16 |
| flowy | more tactile, as that's been my experience with clicky switches in general. | 20:16 |
| flowy | sorry my language is pretty bad when describing these things. i guess you would not describe the tactile part of an mx blue as a bump, but more like a spring breaking. | 20:20 |
| flowy | anyways i just saw someone say that the choc whites feel exactly the same as a choc brown. which is disappointing but maybe i'd have to try for myself. | 20:20 |
| flowy | feel the same but make a sound | 20:20 |
| flowy | i had to push on the kailh browns quite a bit to believe that they market them as tactile. they just feel linear to me | 20:21 |
| technomancy | yeah kailh browns are nearly linear | 20:33 |
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| mntmn | flowy: i found typing on whites is much more fun, but it's also a bit louder ;) | 20:48 |
| CoderFox | Just out of curiosity, how many units of the mnt reform were built until today? | 20:50 |
| flowy | yea, i don't care about sound :) no one around me to disturb most of the time. | 20:50 |
| flowy | who recently received one? maybe the serial #s are incremental | 20:53 |
| mntmn | CoderFox: 300+ | 21:01 |
| CoderFox | Nice to hear that. Thanks for the info. | 21:01 |
| technomancy | flowy: whoever said choc whites feel like choc browns doesn't know what they're talking about; they are about as different as it's possible to feel | 21:03 |
| Boostisbetter | cherry browns are probably my favorite, but there are so many different types of switches and so many nuisances to it all. My fingers are not that picky. If it works I'm usually ok. Ergonomics and split keyboards though are something that make pretty big differences in terms of comfort. | 21:08 |
| Boostisbetter | mntmn, I know I have asked this before, or at least I think I have, but do you know when the pocket reform might be able to show itself for real? | 21:09 |
| flowy | technomancy: mm, k! yeah i was surprised... | 21:09 |
| flowy | technomancy: you're liking them? | 21:10 |
| flowy | Boostisbetter: yeah i like cherry browns too. | 21:11 |
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| technomancy | flowy: I haven't put my choc whites in a real board yet but they feel a lot like kailh whites, which feel way better than the browns IMO | 21:42 |
| technomancy | but I agree that physical layout is more important than switch selection | 21:43 |
| technomancy | really looking forward to the lorize | 21:43 |
| technomancy | getting rid of that stagger would feel soooooo good | 21:44 |
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| CoderFox | Would it theoretically be possible to remove the batteries and just power the mnt-reform from the power cord? Thinking if it would be possible to take it and convert a screen to something like a linux-imac ^^ | 22:15 |
| kfx | it's not just theoretically possible, it's actually possible! | 22:18 |
| CoderFox | Which leads to my next question: Is it possible to order single parts of the mnt-reform? Or can I only order it as a whole DIY Kit? | 22:19 |
| mntmn | CoderFox: single parts are currently not available unfortunately, as we didn't have the budget to produce lots of extras in the first batch | 22:24 |
| mntmn | there was a motherboard only option in the campaign but literally no one bought it | 22:24 |
| CoderFox | Ok. Maybe I will anyway order the full thing, since it appears to be a piece of art anyway. Thanks for the info. | 22:25 |
| mntmn | sure! | 22:28 |
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| vkoskiv_ | Is the 3D model that was used for early promotional renders available anywhere? | 23:00 |
| vkoskiv_ | I see these step files in the repo I could convert, but I'm not sure if they cover all of it. | 23:01 |
| vkoskiv_ | Was hoping to try and render it in my rendering engine for fun and no profit. :D | 23:01 |
| mntmn | vkoskiv_: sorry, idk at the moment | 23:04 |
| vkoskiv_ | And then see how well instancing works by rendering 300 reforms all sitting next to each other | 23:04 |
| mntmn | hehe | 23:04 |
| mntmn | vkoskiv_: ping me about it again tomorrow | 23:04 |
| vkoskiv_ | Sure, this isn't urgent or that important | 23:04 |
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| vkoskiv_ | And you have a lot of work to do :D | 23:04 |
| mntmn | i just got words that CS is about to convert all the waiting reform orders to the new SKUs tomorrow | 23:04 |
| mntmn | words->word | 23:05 |
| vkoskiv_ | I'm not sure what that implies? Just that progress is happening? | 23:05 |
| vkoskiv_ | Not familiar with my supply chain/logistics lingo | 23:05 |
| mntmn | i also got empty statistics emails from mouser so it appears we are in their system as a supplier | 23:05 |
| vkoskiv_ | Sounds like progress to me! | 23:05 |
| mntmn | vkoskiv_: the reform product options were split up into multiple different products (sku = stock keeping unit) | 23:05 |
| mntmn | this is already reflected on the current reform page @ crowd supply | 23:06 |
| mntmn | but not yet in the existing orders | 23:06 |
| mntmn | but it is necessary so mouser knows which items to ship | 23:06 |
| vkoskiv_ | Ah, and then you send them bulk stock and they then fulfill each SKU | 23:06 |
| mntmn | yep | 23:06 |
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