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| josch | mntmn: did you already port your kernel patches to something newer than 5.12? Half the patches fail to apply with newer versions. If not, then I'd do that now. | 13:31 |
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| mntmn | josch: haven't! i think less patches should be required now, and we can base the DTS off of lucas stach' existing/upstreamed patches | 13:41 |
| mntmn | josch: any help is appreciated | 13:41 |
| mntmn | josch: he also submitted DTS patches for I2C which may fix the wm8960 reset, and some ethernet thing | 13:41 |
| josch | mntmn: is there a list of patches other than the one in reform2-imx8mq/template-kernel/patches? Maybe a linux git tree somewhere? | 14:25 |
| mntmn | josch: those are the only patches that were required for the existing kernel | 14:25 |
| josch | okay | 14:25 |
| mntmn | josch: but in the meantime lucas stach has posted a bunch of patches to the arm kernel ML (and some were even already merged to linux, like a base mnt-reform dts), and i have yet to test/integrate them... so if you have time i will dig up the links for you | 14:26 |
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| josch | yes, I see that the Debian linux kernel image already ships the reform dts -- that's neat! | 14:27 |
| josch | I'll start with rebasing reform2-imx8mq/template-kernel/patches and see if the result works or not. | 14:28 |
| mntmn | huh, that was quick... probably that version doesn't support the internal display yet though | 14:28 |
| josch | I'll come back once I have some results. :) | 14:28 |
| mntmn | ok! | 14:28 |
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| technomancy | aww yiss; this looks fantastic https://community.mnt.re/t/another-ergo-keyboard-design-for-the-reform/671 | 18:09 |
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| Boostisbetter | :+1: | 20:24 |
| Boostisbetter | 👍️ | 20:24 |
| Boostisbetter | If it can fit, it would be great. | 20:25 |
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| technomancy | I was basically planning on making that and now I don't have to | 20:25 |
| Boostisbetter | so in a rather UN-scientific method I have determined that the Reform can go just about 12 hours in standby. Mixed with work and use in between I have determined that I can take it with me to work and I will get through the day without needing to shut down. | 20:26 |
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| bkeys | mntmn: I take it CS still hasn't updated anything? | 20:39 |
| bkeys | I do not see anything on their website | 20:40 |
| + ruff (~ruff@ip-78-45-99-112.net.upcbroadband.cz) | 20:54 | |
| mntmn | bkeys: could you check if your order was updated to the new product structure? | 21:12 |
| bkeys | mntmn: Sure, one second | 21:35 |
| mntmn | because the order page was at least brought up to date, also the prices raised etc | 21:35 |
| mntmn | and it has separate power cords... | 21:35 |
| mntmn | so your orders should be auto converted to this new structure (but with old prices of course ^^) | 21:36 |
| bkeys | Both my trackball and unassembled reform are Currently estimated to ship on Mar 18, 2022 | 21:36 |
| bkeys | So do I need to order a power brick for the reform? | 21:36 |
| mntmn | no no | 21:36 |
| mntmn | it was all included | 21:36 |
| bkeys | Alright | 21:36 |
| mntmn | i mean the power brick is still included | 21:36 |
| mntmn | but now you can choose a power cord | 21:37 |
| mntmn | with the new system | 21:37 |
| bkeys | Ah, that makes sense | 21:37 |
| bkeys | But yeah, it says march 18th | 21:37 |
| bkeys | Which I believe has not changed | 21:37 |
| mntmn | so the old orders will be split up into multiple SKUs | 21:37 |
| mntmn | yeah idk anything about the dates | 21:37 |
| mntmn | but sounds like no splitting was done yet | 21:37 |
| bkeys | Yeah, the order just says MNT Reform DIY Kit, and MNT Reform Optical Trackball Module | 21:37 |
| mntmn | maybe they won't actually split those up | 21:37 |
| bkeys | No splitting if power cord is gonna be a different SKU | 21:37 |
| mntmn | maybe it's only internal mapping for fulfillment... | 21:38 |
| bkeys | So is Mar 18th a reasonable date of when the Reform will ship? | 21:38 |
| mntmn | i don't know | 21:38 |
| mntmn | we will soon have built around 100 reforms that are then ready to ship to mouser | 21:38 |
| mntmn | but we are waiting for mouser to give the green light | 21:38 |
| mntmn | and idk where people are in the order queue | 21:39 |
| bkeys | Mmhm | 21:39 |
| mntmn | because i can't see individual orders | 21:39 |
| mntmn | bkeys: when did you order again? | 21:40 |
| bkeys | Nov 23rd | 21:40 |
| bkeys | 2021 | 21:40 |
| mntmn | ok that is pretty late in the game, but nevertheless we plan to fulfill everything in Q1 | 21:41 |
| mntmn | the order backlog starts with orders from end of june 2021 | 21:41 |
| bkeys | So it is probable that the pile of ~100 Reforms doesn't include mine? | 21:42 |
| mntmn | wait, june 2020? | 21:42 |
| mntmn | yes, but the pile is growing all the time now... in total mouser/cs bought 200 units and not all are sold afaik | 21:42 |
| mntmn | i think we will need around 8-10 weeks from now on to build all the rest | 21:43 |
| bkeys | I see, that is all fine. I spend most of my time computing on my desktop anyway | 21:43 |
| Boostisbetter | ruff: mntmn: whelp I had one hang today. That was after about 24 stand by sessions though. It could have just been a fluke. | 22:25 |
| mntmn | :0 | 22:25 |
| ruff | Boostisbetter: hang like it didn;t wake on circle-space? | 22:42 |
| kfx | I use a version of reform-standby that is posix-compliant sh (vs. bash), doesn't have functions (the code is just in line), but is otherwise similar, and I'm about 95% successful waking from sleep | 22:46 |
| kfx | the other 5% is no response from lpc and it doesn't wake | 22:47 |
| kfx | I also don't have all the systemd cruft, since I'm running alpine linux | 22:47 |
| ruff | kfx: if system does not use systemd there's no benefit introducing it of course. As you don't have anything which may do someothiing out of your control. But when you do have it - you better use it otherwise it may its own idea on how to manage the session | 22:52 |
| kfx | for sure, if it's there you have to deal with it. this is one of the reasons I run alpine. I only mention it to highlight that I'm getting similar results with a completely different init system. | 22:56 |
| mntmn | kfx: does the alpine init system have any handlers for suspend? | 22:59 |
| Boostisbetter | Ruff, yes it hung likewhen the lpc said it was waking but screen was unpowered and not responsive to the keyboard or mouse. | 23:03 |
| josch | The reform boots with patched 5.16 but the display doesn't come on but only flickers once. Time to go to bed now though. Will investigate another time. | 23:41 |
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