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| ephase | Someone here know whre I can buy batteries in europe? | 00:37 |
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| vkoskiv_ | I live in a small EU country and I can find plenty of sources for LiFePO4 cells. Though they are of unknown quality | 00:39 |
| vkoskiv_ | Ranging from 7euro to 20 euro per cell. | 00:39 |
| vkoskiv_ | I found one source that is 3 euro per cell. 1600mAh. Flat top cell | 00:40 |
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| ephase | vkoskiv_: here in Bordeaux, medium city in France no store have in stock | 00:46 |
| ephase | and nkon.nl doesn't have stosk | 00:46 |
| ephase | stock | 00:46 |
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| boosterfive | mntmn: any chance you've seen my email about the laptop hinge set? | 13:11 |
| mntmn | boosterfive: currently in holidays | 13:23 |
| mntmn | until jan 3 approx | 13:24 |
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| boosterfive | mntmn: word, no problem, and hope you are enjoying them. Just wanted to make sure it reached you. Have a good Rutsch! | 14:15 |
| mntmn | thanks, same to you! i will grind through all my emails next year | 14:37 |
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| boosterfive | mntmn: here is another noodle of a question, but outside of the obvious with wayland and all, was there a reason you went with Sway over i3? | 18:14 |
| mntmn | boosterfive: well, you've answered your own question | 18:15 |
| mntmn | it was clear that we wanted to use wayland because it is more modern/clean/secure and sway is one of the best compositors and started as a remake of i3 | 18:17 |
| vkoskiv_ | I haven't looked into resource usage. Shouldn't sway be a bit more lightweight as well? | 18:18 |
| mntmn | theoretically yes | 18:18 |
| vkoskiv_ | I discovered sway from looking into the reform image, and I absolutely fell in love. | 18:19 |
| vkoskiv_ | I went back to i3 for my intel/nvidia desktop system due to driver limitations, but will be using sway on all my linux laptops going forward | 18:19 |
| mntmn | i'm looking into wayfire + some icon based desktop + dock as a more beginner friendly alternative setup for people who don't want tiled. or maybe we'll get KDE to work. | 18:19 |
| mntmn | vkoskiv_: nice | 18:20 |
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| vkoskiv_ | Discovering tiling wms made the switch from macOS far less painful. In fact, now I find macOS to be quite cumbersome to use! | 18:20 |
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| mntmn | yeah i know the feeling | 18:21 |
| mntmn | when you have to manually push everything around | 18:21 |
| technomancy | even if you wanted to run X on the reform it's pretty unstable | 18:21 |
| mntmn | technomancy: did you get windowmaker back to work? | 18:21 |
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| mntmn | technomancy: we have a .deb for Xwayland now btw | 18:21 |
| technomancy | cage is still refusing to launch, something about "Direct scan-out disabled by software cursor" | 18:22 |
| mntmn | huh. i wonder if that is a regression | 18:22 |
| mntmn | technomancy: cage version? | 18:22 |
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| technomancy | I'm on cage 0.1.3 | 18:22 |
| technomancy | it's the last one that will compile without bringing in a big pile of manually-managed deps | 18:22 |
| mntmn | ok | 18:23 |
| technomancy | any idea what a software cursor is? | 18:23 |
| mntmn | i just checked, 0.1.3 is the version we ship | 18:24 |
| technomancy | that error message is actually coming from wlroots, which is coming from apt | 18:25 |
| boosterfive | personally I love sway. I set it up on my Framework laptop long before I heard about the Reform. To me sway made a lot of sense on a resource constrained platform. It runs very well on the Reform. I have zero complaints. I just wanted to see if there was any reasoning beyond that for it. | 18:29 |
| boosterfive | I think Gnome is already a pretty user friendly experience | 18:29 |
| technomancy | I could be happy with sway if I could find a way to fix firefox's key bindings | 18:29 |
| boosterfive | I do think that the Reform wont be appealing to too many people who aren't already at least a little familiar with Linux. | 18:29 |
| boosterfive | yeah, I never use Firefox. sudo apt purge Firefox* is one of the first things I do on any Linux machine I setup. | 18:30 |
| boosterfive | Some Firefox derivatives aren't bad though | 18:31 |
| technomancy | chromium is even worse | 18:31 |
| technomancy | but I managed to keep chromium and all chromium-based things off my system so far; hoping I can keep the streak going | 18:31 |
| boosterfive | sure, but it is the industry standard, and for compliance, there really isn't an alternative. outside of Brave, which doesn't have a arm canidate. | 18:31 |
| technomancy | I mean, firefox has a shit extension mechanism specifically because it copied a bunch of bad ideas from chromium | 18:31 |
| boosterfive | Actually, strike that Vivaldi works great on the Reform | 18:32 |
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| doctorhoo | Hej! I am in the exciting stage of assembling my newly arrived mnt reform! Just now, I am wondering about the connection of the OLED display to the keyboard (step 7 in the quick assembly instructions): there it says that the flat cable should have the blue marking up. That would match the already pre-assembled connection on the OLED board side. However, to have the screw holes facing away from the keyboard I would have to twist th | 18:44 |
| doctorhoo | cable -- is that correct or did I misunderstand something? Don't want to put unnecessary strain on the poor thing.. | 18:44 |
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| josch | doctorhoo: the twisting (clockwise) will come a few steps later | 18:51 |
| doctorhoo | ok, so that is the intended way -- thanks! :) | 18:52 |
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| boosterfive | yep, it will. Even though you need to twist it, make sure you don't get crazy with it, but don't be afraid to twist it etiher. | 19:18 |
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| doctorhoo | thanks josch and boosterfive! It does state this clearly in the documentation, I simply didn't read ahead long enough. But everything worked fine :) | 20:10 |
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| doctorhoo | I have to say, I really enjoyed the experience! It was great that the instructions took one all the way to booting up, and from there, the on-screen instructions helped one to get going further and pointed to things to explore. | 20:11 |
| doctorhoo | All that without the patronizing dialogs and setup wizards of other devices/OS (e.g. having to set up wifi before anything else is even accessible) | 20:13 |
| doctorhoo | It will take me a while to get used to (or re-configure) the keyboard or to using sway, but that is part of the fun of playing with this computer for me | 20:15 |
| vkoskiv_ | doctorhoo: For sway I'd recommend just reading through the supplied config. It reads very easily and explains all the default (very sane) keybindings | 20:18 |
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| boosterfive | once you learn the basics of tiling managers like Sway, the true fun becomes setting up exactly the way you want. | 20:20 |
| boosterfive | BUT there is no rush and no time schedule you need to meet. You go as fast or as slow as you want. There is no right or wrong way to do it. | 20:21 |
| vkoskiv_ | I was very happy with the defaults, just added a few tweaks. Very refreshingly easy to read configs. For both sway and i3 | 20:21 |
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| technomancy | I recommend remapping the keyboard so ctrl is next to A and shift is next to Z | 20:22 |
| technomancy | you can't fix the staggering with firmware but you can at least make a lot fewer mistakes if you don't have to reach so far for those very common keys | 20:23 |
| doctorhoo | technomancy: remapping keys is something that I will probably play around with rather soon. I am using emacs a lot and look forward to having a "real" hyper key -- but muscle memory is not necessarily worth fighting.. | 20:28 |
| doctorhoo | vkoskiv_: I really enjoy sway so far! I'll check out the config to learn more about the system; it seems very lean and clean so far :) | 20:29 |
| doctorhoo | boosterfive: exactly! Already looking forward to that journey ;) | 20:30 |
| boosterfive | so do we know if the ortho keyboard for the Reform is still going to be made? | 20:34 |
| boosterfive | I for one would be very interested in getting one. I mean the keyboard on the Reform is excellent, and I'm very happy with it, but after using a ortholinear on my desktop it is hard to not want it on the Reform if possible. | 20:35 |
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| technomancy | boosterfive: I was originally planning on making a column-staggered one but then I got a bit intimidated because you have to build not just a keyboard but also all the oled-driving bits as well so I figured I'd wait for OLKB's one | 20:37 |
| technomancy | but ... haven't heard any progress on that and I'm getting a bit tired of carrying my external kb with me everywhere | 20:37 |
| technomancy | plus I don't *really* want one that doesn't have any column-stagger | 20:38 |
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