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| * nsc -> Guest4522 | 03:27 | |
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| + MajorBiscuit (~MajorBisc@c-001-027-052.client.tudelft.eduvpn.nl) | 10:06 | |
| + boosterfive (~boosterfi@p5dedf5a5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) | 10:08 | |
| boosterfive | kfx: nothing. I just saw that emulating amd64 / x86 is pretty much not currently possible, outside of Apple and Microsoft's wheel houses. | 10:09 |
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| boosterfive | I'm just coming to terms with all of the limitations here is all. | 10:09 |
| boosterfive | With my VNC and SSH issues sorted I have a solution for all of that anyway. | 10:09 |
| boosterfive | mntmn: One other thing I wanted to mention was that reform-standby seems to work much more reliably with connman gone. | 10:10 |
| boosterfive | So far I'm batting 3 of 3 successful suspends and resumes. | 10:10 |
| mntmn | boosterfive: hmm! | 10:12 |
| - boosterfive (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~boosterfi@p5dedf5a5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) | 10:15 | |
| Asmadeus | I've got troubles with an ath10k wireless card and suspend at work as well, so got some lovey-dovey time planned with it around Feb next year.. Bringing wifi down before suspend like reform-suspend does is not an option for me so if I can make it work without ifdown perhaps it'll help with the issues people see here too | 10:27 |
| mntmn | i don't think it is wifi related tbh. i had wake not working even with wifi card removed. | 10:38 |
| mntmn | the wifi down stuff is just there because the wifi card gets confused and crashy otherwise | 10:39 |
| Asmadeus | ah, I'm not aware of what the suspend problem is then - laptop just doesn't wake up? I was thinking of the wifi card not coming back on resume | 10:41 |
| mntmn | soc freezes either late in sleep or in wake | 10:42 |
| Asmadeus | I haven't noticed any failure to wakeup on my boards (but then again it's a slightly different chip, so it doesn't have to) | 10:42 |
| mntmn | slightly different? which one? | 10:42 |
| Asmadeus | ok, these are "fun" to debug indeed. | 10:42 |
| Asmadeus | imx8mp | 10:42 |
| mntmn | ah i think that's very different, new power domain stuff, no? | 10:43 |
| mntmn | i have the 8mp devkit too | 10:43 |
| Asmadeus | I don't remember the details for power domains but yes it's quite different | 10:43 |
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| + MajorBiscuit (~MajorBisc@62-52-102.netrun.cytanet.com.cy) | 11:41 | |
| * Guest4522 -> nsc | 11:46 | |
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| + MajorBiscuit (~MajorBisc@c-001-015-015.client.tudelft.eduvpn.nl) | 11:50 | |
| dj-death | typing this from the reform keyboard :) | 11:57 |
| dj-death | coming from the outside where it's -10C, this thing is cold ;) | 11:58 |
| + Christoph__ (~Christoph@p54bf60ca.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) | 12:34 | |
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| + Christoph__ (~Christoph@p4fe739db.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) | 13:06 | |
| MajorBiscuit | -10C!? | 13:23 |
| sigrid | winter in northern hemisphere | 13:31 |
| mntmn | dj-death: nice! | 13:34 |
| dj-death | mntmn: work nicely | 13:35 |
| dj-death | mntmn: now I need to change the firmware, need volume up/own ;) | 13:36 |
| dj-death | +d | 13:36 |
| mntmn | dj-death: that firmware exists! | 13:43 |
| mntmn | dj-death: i mean, in a branch | 13:43 |
| mntmn | dj-death: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform/-/tree/kbd-bitmaps/reform2-keyboard-fw | 13:43 |
| mntmn | this branch has usb media controller in the keyboard fw | 13:44 |
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| + aliosablack (~chomwitt@2a02:587:dc1c:a00:12c3:7bff:fe6d:d374) | 14:26 | |
| andrey_utkin | how do I branch off on your gitlab? I don't see a Fork button, and I can't push a branch into reform/reform-system-image. I can email patches and I can set up a my repo elsewhere, but it's probably harder than necessary. | 15:15 |
| josch | andrey_utkin: you probably need an account first -- I have one and there is a fork button in the upper-right corner | 15:20 |
| mntmn | andrey_utkin: one second | 15:23 |
| mntmn | andrey_utkin: i can also make you a developer on reform-system-image | 15:24 |
| andrey_utkin | I have already made an account, and I'm logged in | 15:25 |
| andrey_utkin | no fork button it seems | 15:25 |
| mntmn | andrey_utkin: i just added you as a developer on reform-system-image, so now you can push a branch | 15:25 |
| andrey_utkin | thanks for the trust | 15:25 |
| - bkeys (QUIT: Ping timeout: 240 seconds) (~Thunderbi@66.115.189.236) | 15:26 | |
| mntmn | but strange that you don't see a fork button... it's next to star etc in the top right corner | 15:26 |
| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@66.115.189.236) | 15:26 | |
| andrey_utkin | ah now i see it | 15:28 |
| mntmn | andrey_utkin: btw there have been a bunch of updates to the video codec stuff, apparently there's a new person working on the kernel side of things | 15:28 |
| andrey_utkin | it's not there on neither of "Repository", "Project information" tabs | 15:28 |
| mntmn | ah | 15:29 |
| mntmn | andrey_utkin: if you haven't seen yet https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20211216111256.2362683-1-aford173@gmail.com/ | 15:29 |
| mntmn | andrey_utkin: i'm now rereading your thoughts on https://ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2019-April/242316.html | 15:34 |
| mntmn | andrey_utkin: you wrote > provide a third-party package repository | 15:35 |
| mntmn | targeting the major distros | 15:35 |
| mntmn | andrey_utkin: so we have that for debian already, that's how we ship custom builds of kicad (maybe not necessary anymore) and blender, and reform-tools | 15:36 |
| mntmn | we'll also move Xwayland there and hopefully have no more stuff in /usr/local in the future (working with josch on this) | 15:37 |
| sigrid | mntmn: are there any packages that get repackaged in some other way for reform? pulseaudio has an issue that i wondered about, unless ofc it comes unchanged from debian sources | 15:47 |
| josch | mntmn: would you like to directly move xorg to https://mntre.com/reform-debian or would you like to cross-build it locally as part of mkimage.sh? If the latter, I'll start working on a MR. | 15:47 |
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| mntmn | sigrid: no, but the pulseaudio default config is changed a little bit | 15:47 |
| mntmn | josch: ideally i want to build ~only~ Xwayland from the xorg sources and install it as a deb from reform-debian. we still miss a repo for such .deb builds though | 15:48 |
| mntmn | josch: i mean, a repo with a build script for these packages. or it could be added to a different directory in reform-system-image | 15:49 |
| sigrid | ah ok. padsp seems to have a wrong ld preload path. guess debian is the right place to report this | 15:49 |
| mntmn | sigrid: huh. i don't think i touched that | 15:52 |
| mntmn | also, on my desktop computer i've switched to pipewire and might do that on reform too, soon | 15:52 |
| + chomwitt (~chomwitt@ppp-2-85-245-134.home.otenet.gr) | 16:43 | |
| + aliosablack (~chomwitt@ppp-2-85-245-134.home.otenet.gr) | 16:43 | |
| andrey_utkin | do you publish reform-system.img somewhere? | 17:47 |
| andrey_utkin | Q2: we're going to wrap the custom kernel, u-boot, and all the stuff in reform-system-image into deb (and other) packages, right? | 17:49 |
| mntmn | andrey_utkin: yes, in the CI pipelines ;) | 17:49 |
| mntmn | andrey_utkin: i.e. https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/jobs/426/artifacts/browse | 17:50 |
| andrey_utkin | right, i see. I was thinking of some ftp-ish location :) | 17:52 |
| andrey_utkin | Q3: is there a test suite already somewhere? | 17:52 |
| mntmn | well, there is a http-ish location at the end | 17:52 |
| mntmn | andrey_utkin: no, there's no test suite for the system image | 17:52 |
| mntmn | tests are done manually | 17:53 |
| andrey_utkin | is there a script for manual testing? | 17:53 |
| andrey_utkin | as in, text | 17:53 |
| mntmn | nothing very actionable for 3rd parties yet, but sounds like something for my todo list | 17:54 |
| + mtm (~mtm@c-73-27-62-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) | 19:05 | |
| technomancy | ouch; I updated apt and sway just completely stopped booting | 19:38 |
| technomancy | can't tell if this is a sid problem or a wayland problem but it really makes me want to get back on a stable release | 19:38 |
| technomancy | looks like another apt upgrade brought back sway but not xwayland | 19:40 |
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| - jvalleroy (QUIT: Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.) (~quassel@user/jvalleroy) | 19:57 | |
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| mntmn | technomancy: common problem atm. maybe this helps: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/issues/15#note_1601 | 21:10 |
| mntmn | technomancy: OTOH how are you starting xwayland? through sway automatically? | 21:10 |
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| technomancy | mntmn: it's basically just the windowmaker script | 23:33 |
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| technomancy | so it sounds like this is a problem because it only worked previously when the reform-specific packages were being preferred vs the ones in debian, but then the debian ones pulled ahead and introduced incompatibilities with the reform-specific custom builds? | 23:45 |
| technomancy | (just wondering if I have the overall tl;dr correct) | 23:45 |
| technomancy | is there a tl;dr about why regular non-Xwayland Xorg doesn't work? | 23:45 |
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