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| * nsc -> Guest8536 | 03:27 | |
| liquorice | Anyone able to point me in the right direction for some connman troubleshooting? (already read the archwiki stuff, no luck). I've been getting an "Operation Aborted" error when trying to connect to my wifi recently via connmanctl. I snooped around systemctl and made sure that network-manager wasn't running as a daemon, so I don't think its those two stepping on each other's toes | 04:42 |
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| liquorice | I was actually getting a "No Carrier" error at first, but then I reset that network to its default settings | 04:45 |
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| mntmn | liquorice: hmm, sounds unusual, but then i have used connman mostly through its gui | 09:53 |
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| + boosterfive (~boosterfi@pd9e6ff47.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) | 15:41 | |
| boosterfive | can we use armhf on the Reform (arm64)? | 15:42 |
| boosterfive | stuff compiled for RPi | 15:46 |
| boosterfive | Isn't the only really difference a 32 bit versus 64 bit architecture? | 15:46 |
| mntmn | boosterfive: if you create a armhf chroot, then yes. debian has facilities for that. see multiarch, debootstrap, binfmt | 15:55 |
| boosterfive | sounds like a realitively deep rabbit hole, I'll look and see if i can find any guides on that. | 15:59 |
| mntmn | it's pretty straight forward once you have the concepts understood | 16:02 |
| mntmn | basically 1. make sure you can execute arm32 executables 2. make a armhf rootfs (directory with armhf debian filesystem tree in it) 3. chroot into the rootfs | 16:03 |
| boosterfive | ok, so one more thing to clarify before I take the journey, but will doing this allow me to install armhf package and run them? Or will they need to be extracted separately and then run, a la Box32/64? | 16:03 |
| boosterfive | not run using Box, I just mean like how Box would run x86 32 / 64 bit software | 16:04 |
| mntmn | IIRC with multiarch you don't even need a rootfs | 16:06 |
| mntmn | something like > dpkg --add-architecture armhf | 16:06 |
| mntmn | apt update, and then you could install armhf packages like so: apt install packagename:armhf | 16:07 |
| mntmn | but there might be naming conflicts if not using a chroot | 16:07 |
| boosterfive | ok, that's what I'l do | 16:07 |
| mntmn | i.e. if you install app:armhf and regular app, they would conflict | 16:07 |
| mntmn | but for libraries it should work | 16:08 |
| mntmn | kinda depends on what your goal is | 16:08 |
| boosterfive | you mean in general or only if trying to install an app with the same name? | 16:08 |
| boosterfive | I don't want apt to be looking at armhf to update aarch64 packages | 16:08 |
| mntmn | which application do you want to use? | 16:10 |
| boosterfive | Real VNC Viewer | 16:12 |
| boosterfive | they have a RPi version | 16:12 |
| boosterfive | I use RealVNC on my servers | 16:12 |
| boosterfive | and so far I'm having no luck connecting with Remmina, etc. | 16:12 |
| boosterfive | So when I added the architecture and installed vncviewer | 16:13 |
| boosterfive | it is missing dependencies | 16:13 |
| boosterfive | however, using apt -f install removes vncviewer | 16:13 |
| boosterfive | however, being able to use this on the Reform makes this something I could absolutely use full time if necessary | 16:13 |
| boosterfive | disregard. I added the architecture, but forgot to update the repos | 16:21 |
| boosterfive | seems to be working now | 16:22 |
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| + boosterfive (~boosterfi@pd9e6ff47.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) | 16:27 | |
| boosterfive | so I got it all patched up and installed but now it is saying: | 16:34 |
| boosterfive | vncviewer: error while loading shared libraries: libcrypt.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | 16:34 |
| boosterfive | I get that a library needs to be updated, and I assume that it is either libcrypt.dev or libcrypt1 | 16:35 |
| boosterfive | is there away to do this without messing things up? I'd rather not turn my install into a spaghetti if possible | 16:36 |
| + GrumpyUser (~g@195.82.99.14) | 16:36 | |
| boosterfive | normally I would just sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade | 16:37 |
| boosterfive | but I'm pretty sure that will break things | 16:37 |
| GrumpyUser | I feel like poking around at the etnaviv mesa driver, just to learn what's in it. Anyone want anything simple done with it? | 16:38 |
| * GrumpyUser -> bibliocar | 16:38 | |
| mntmn | boosterfive: apt install libcrypt1:armhf ? | 17:12 |
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| + boosterfive (~boosterfi@pd9e6ff47.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) | 20:27 | |
| boosterfive | thanks mntmn, I really didn't think it was going to be that easy, but it was. It now works 100%. Truly impressed with how capable the Reform is. | 20:28 |
| mntmn | boosterfive: oh that's cool! only needed to install that lib? | 20:30 |
| boosterfive | yes, it was just that lib. | 21:02 |
| boosterfive | Runs great now. | 21:02 |
| boosterfive | This means I can now hit my developer vm, nextcloud, and can access my software companies vpn. | 21:03 |
| boosterfive | very nice | 21:03 |
| boosterfive | I had to break out my old Nokia N900 to remember how to use SSH via the cli if I need to do port tunneling with a private key for authentication. Glad I still have it. I loved that thing when I first got it. It still works perfectly, even though they are killing off 3g soon. | 21:04 |
| mntmn | boosterfive: awesome | 21:06 |
| boosterfive | mntmn: So the forbidden word around here: winevine. Any chance of running it on aarch64? | 21:17 |
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| Nulo | Yes, check out these instructions: https://transmissionbt.com/download/ /s | 21:41 |
| mntmn | Nulo: hehehe | 21:47 |
| - GNUmoon (QUIT: Ping timeout: 276 seconds) (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) | 21:47 | |
| mntmn | boosterfive: it is very difficult to get it to work and also not satisfactory performance/resolution | 21:47 |
| dj-death | my reform keyboard is somewhere in LT, can't wait :) | 21:49 |
| dj-death | it might make it for christmas :) | 21:49 |
| boosterfive | mntmn: solid reasons to not even bother getting it working. | 21:55 |
| boosterfive | I wonder, does the SBC in the Reform have enough ompff to run hypervisor software? Run VMs? | 21:55 |
| boosterfive | I'm not expecting stellar performance of any kind, just curious if that is something possible | 21:56 |
| kfx | what will you do differently based on the responses you get? | 22:01 |
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| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@66.115.189.236) | 22:06 | |
| mntmn | dj-death: your motherboard is also in that box btw | 22:30 |
| kfx | my shipment is on vacation in koeln, while the poor logistics people try to catch up | 22:42 |
| dj-death | mntmn: noice. | 22:51 |
| dj-death | mntmn: thanks a bunch | 22:52 |
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