2021-12-15.log

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+ reform19257 (~astral@c-73-38-70-134.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)00:10
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+ vagrantc (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:21:21:0:100e)03:35
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+ freakazoid12345 (~matt@2603-9000-cf0f-80e3-b584-44f5-72b6-6bbf.inf6.spectrum.com)03:40
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vagrantcoooh, v3 of u-boot patches for mnt reform2 submitted ...03:48
ex-parrotyessss03:55
vagrantcdid manage to get mine booting with barebox, though ... pretty cool.03:57
ex-parrotoh that's awesome to hear03:57
vagrantchadn't used barebox before, but it *feels* a lot more like a unixy shell than u-boot ... takes some getting used to, but a little more familiar concepts.03:59
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- mtm (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~mtm@c-73-27-62-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)13:03
dj-deathmntmn: are you shipping the keyboards in batches?13:11
+ erlehmann (~erle@ip5f5bf4bd.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de)13:44
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mntmndj-death: yeah13:54
dj-deathmntmn: okay, just checking, I had problems with the lt post, they tend to receive a parcel and not notify you, so you wait and it returns to the sender 13:59
mntmndj-death: ok, we're not using post, only UPS13:59
dj-deathcool14:00
mntmndj-death: yours is already on my list!14:24
* dustfing` -> dustfinger14:26
dj-deathmntmn: feels very christmassy thanks :)14:52
+ mtm (~mtm@c-73-27-62-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)15:10
bkeysWhat is this talk of a mnt reform mini?15:33
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joschbkeys: https://mastodon.social/@mntmn/10744083562179587615:54
bkeysInteresting, I like small laptops15:55
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- mtm (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~mtm@c-73-27-62-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)19:20
flowymntmn: personal opinion on ortholinear keyboard layout aside, what are your thoughts on the target market?19:41
flowyit seems hard to convert new people19:44
+ vagrantc (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:21:21:0:100e)19:49
technomancyjust be awesome, and people who recognize awesomeness will get it and everyone else won't19:55
technomancyhashtag lifehacks19:55
+ boosterfive (~boosterfi@pd9e6ff47.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)20:03
boosterfivemntmn: so looks like my order will get here tomorrow. Most excellent. So just to be clear, the additional stuff I picked up for this (the SSD and the additional Trackball module) will come in a separate shipment? (My tracking number for what is coming tomorrow is: 1Z04W5286804033976)20:04
- boosterfive (QUIT: Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)) (~boosterfi@pd9e6ff47.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)20:21
+ boosterfive (~boosterfi@pd9e6ff47.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)20:25
+ mjw (~mark@gnu.wildebeest.org)21:13
mjwShipping is still a problem I assume? I see crowdsupply moved out shipment to next year. "Currently estimated to ship on Mar 18, 2022"21:24
+ mtm (~mtm@c-73-27-62-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)21:27
mntmnmjw: latest update is that we agreed on all the details needed to set us up in the mouser system21:30
mntmnso we're now keeping fingers crossed that they will be speedy in letting us in 21:30
bkeysWhat happens once they let you in?21:31
mntmnthen we'll send them the first batch of around 100 laptops and accessories21:31
mntmnthat should fill a lot of the backlog21:31
mntmnbut i don't know the exact distribution of the backlog21:32
mntmnand mouser will fulfill the orders using their standard system21:33
bkeysMmhm, hopefully it will all go by quickly21:33
boosterfive mntmn: did you see my question?21:34
mjwwhat is the relation between mouser and crowdsupply21:34
mntmnboosterfive: yeah sorry i'm at home and don't have the shop database handy. IIRC there was a separate trackball order by you.21:34
mntmnmjw: mouser owns crowdsupply21:35
bkeysmjw: crowdsupply got bought by mouser recently21:35
mntmnmjw: the merger was during our campaign setup21:35
mntmnand everything changed after21:35
mntmnthat's why we were not onboarded on time21:35
mjwah, ok, thanks. I'll sit and wait then21:35
boosterfivemntmn: the trackball is important, but the SSD was the main thing I was hoping was coming with the Reform. I want to run it off the SSD instead of SD.21:36
mntmnall the skus etc had to be changed and mapped to a new structure, and new prices for restocking negotiated, there had to be a bunch of forms and paperwork done etc21:36
mntmnboosterfive: i don't think we sell ssds separately?21:36
mntmnboosterfive: only together with reform?21:36
mntmnboosterfive: so if you ordered an ssd it should be included21:37
boosterfiveI bought it and added it to the order after the fact.21:37
boosterfiveThat's great, hope it is in there. The order quote just showed no SSD, which would have been correct on the initial order.21:38
mntmnboosterfive: do you mean the invoice? perhaps it was not updated21:38
mntmnlike, the pdf21:38
boosterfivemntmn: but man the restocking and everything sounds really sucky. I hope you guys don't have too much trouble with it all.21:38
mntmnboosterfive: it was months of back and forth.21:38
boosterfivemntmn: yeah you are probably right. I'll let you know when it arrives. Should be getting here tomorrow.21:39
mntmnbut that doesn't apply to direct orders21:39
mntmni feel with everyone who is waiting for this process to finally get up to speed21:39
mntmnbelieve me we want these in everyone's hands, and i don't want so much stock around21:40
boosterfiveYeah, it is crazy how you can have an idea for a product, and all the work you need to go through to see it get produced. And then on top of all of that, you have a huge logistics problem above shipping them, and handling the business of that. It just a huge pile of work, and I imagine it can be very very tiring.21:41
boosterfiveI was thinking about trying to sell my UMPC once I've finished it, and honestly I don't know if I will even try just because of all the other stuff that comes along with it.21:42
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ex-parrotmoring reformers22:42
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