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| josch | Does there exist an estimate for the shipping date of a Reform DIY kit that was ordered a week ago via shop.mntmn.com? I know it says "Dec 2021 / Jan 2022" on the bottom of the page but I think it said that for a while and I wanted to ask if that is still the most up-to-date information. Thanks! | 15:34 |
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| mntmn | josch: hi, that's still up to date, yes | 15:39 |
| josch | thanks! | 15:40 |
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| bkeys | mntmn: Does the DIY kit for the reform come with the preloaded SD card? If not, where do I download your debian image from? | 17:15 |
| mntmn | bkeys: yes, it does. | 17:18 |
| bkeys | Okay, where do I download the image if I end up messing up the SD card? | 17:19 |
| mntmn | bkeys: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/jobs/426/artifacts/browse/reform2-imx8mq/ | 17:19 |
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| bkeys | mntmn: So what all from this image do I keep if I was gonna put the fedora userland around it? | 19:47 |
| kfx | I would ... think really hard before doing that. the fedora aarch64 compiler story is missing a few chapters. | 19:49 |
| mntmn | bkeys: mostly the kernel (Image) and dtb, and /sbin/reform-init if you want it to "just work" | 19:49 |
| vagrantc | anone know the rough power draw on the mnt reform standalone keyboards? | 19:49 |
| mntmn | vagrantc: hmm, i can probably measure that tomorrow. it does work on mobile devices (phones). | 19:50 |
| bkeys | How would it just know to run /sbin/reform-init | 19:50 |
| bkeys | ? | 19:50 |
| kfx | u-boot tells it to | 19:57 |
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| swivel | kfx: what's so exceptional about the fedora compiler vs. any other contemporary linux distro that makes this an issue? | 20:21 |
| mntmn | bkeys: yeah, it's set up as a kernel parameter in u-boot | 20:21 |
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| kfx | swivel: it's a comparative pain in the ass to do bare-metal compilation on fedora with distro packages. everyone winds up having to build a compiler toolchain in $HOME. and that's not even getting to the cross-compiling trouble. | 20:23 |
| kfx | it's doable, it's just needlessly painful on this architecture | 20:24 |
| swivel | as someone that's done a bunch of buildroot work producing stuff for arm devices on x86 hosts, and win/macos/linux game dev+building from a linux host, that all just sounds like par for the course | 20:25 |
| swivel | i thought you meant the compiler didn't produce correct executables for aarch64 without patching or some shit | 20:26 |
| kfx | no, it's just much easier on a distro that has these tools packaged. | 20:26 |
| kfx | in fact the way I do it on fedora is by building a debian chroot or using a debian container with podman. | 20:27 |
| kfx | obviously the more you know the easier it is to work around, but it's a hurdle if you're just learning this stuff | 20:27 |
| ex-parrot | musl-cross-make is a nice way to get there too | 20:29 |
| swivel | containers has def. made it a lot tidier in general to do this type of stuff, i use nspawn containers for most of it here. Just keeping the build environment for specific projects consistent independent of how up-to-date my host is has been very handy. | 20:29 |
| ex-parrot | I have been abusing Docker for the purpose: https://git.sr.ht/~fincham/static-binary-zoo | 20:29 |
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| mntmn | mysterious 2000mAh 18650 lifepo4 cell https://www.eremit.de/p/18650-3-2v-2-000mah-lifepo4 | 21:21 |
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