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| mntmn | technomancy: you want more like 60W | 00:49 |
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| mntmn | technomancy: the original supply is 24V, 2.5A | 00:49 |
| mntmn | you can use a smol supply but then it will charge more slowly, if that's ok for you | 00:50 |
| vagrantc | charging the reform for mee seems to usually spike around 60W or so, and fairly quickly down to more like 45W | 00:50 |
| mntmn | sounds about right | 00:51 |
| vagrantc | using a 19V input ... not sure if there's a lot of difference with different voltages (used almost as high as 28V occasionally) | 00:52 |
| vagrantc | ACTION hasn't had any luck with the patches to upstream u-boot :/ | 00:53 |
| mntmn | vagrantc: sorry to hear | 00:56 |
| mntmn | alternatively there's barebox | 00:56 |
| mntmn | it has support for reform upstreamed | 00:56 |
| vagrantc | oh! | 01:04 |
| vagrantc | i maintain u-boot in debian, but maybe i should add barebox for good measure :) | 01:04 |
| vagrantc | or maybe not :) | 01:05 |
| mntmn | heh | 01:05 |
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| technomancy | ah well it was cheap so I ordered it already; if it's slow that's fine; it's not my primary charger =) | 01:29 |
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| + Guest56748 (~Guest567@d28-23-44-170.dim.wideopenwest.com) | 07:03 | |
| Guest56748 | </3 | 07:04 |
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| Guest56767 | </3 | 07:15 |
| Guest56767 | you fucked me | 07:19 |
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| yankcrime | is the default mnt reform sway / waybar config online anywhere? | 14:33 |
| mntmn | sure | 14:44 |
| mntmn | in here https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/tree/main/reform2-imx8mq/template-skel | 14:44 |
| yankcrime | ah, you mean it was right in the title along? ;) | 14:47 |
| yankcrime | (thanks) | 14:47 |
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| + bkeys (~bkeys@66.115.189.236) | 16:41 | |
| bkeys | Has anyone gotten an OS other than debian/ubuntu working on the Reform? | 16:41 |
| mntmn | bkeys: yeah, i've seen gentoo, arch, nix, lfs i think | 16:51 |
| bkeys | Any redhat based stuff? | 16:51 |
| bkeys | I have a pinebook pro I am not that happy with, if I knew the Reform had a path where I could run Fedora on it with good hardware support I'd gladly save up to get one | 16:55 |
| mntmn | haven't heard, but it also shouldn't be a problem | 16:55 |
| mntmn | theoretically you can run any userland on it if you use the supplied kernel + dtb | 16:55 |
| eery | Since the graphics are just etnaviv/mesa I'd guess it'd run okay | 17:07 |
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| bkeys | Well Solid Run has an I.MX8 board that I believe they are mainlining changes for this week | 17:10 |
| mntmn | mesa has all the patches we need now afaik | 17:10 |
| mntmn | next week i'll look into if we can migrate to unpatched mesa in debian too | 17:11 |
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| swivel | bkeys16: out of curiosity, what are your pinebook pro complaints? I was considering picking up a used one for cafe duties | 18:46 |
| technomancy | "one for cafe duties" /me cries in unreliable reform suspend | 18:48 |
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| kfx | oh, you're not getting working suspend on the pinebook pro either. | 18:52 |
| technomancy | https://p.hagelb.org/great-tragedy.gif | 18:53 |
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| mntmn | kfx: how's the suspend situation on the pbp? | 19:17 |
| swivel | if it's not good that doesn't bode well for the pinephone pro :/ | 19:22 |
| mntmn | maybe suspend is not necessary if it can freqscale really low? | 19:23 |
| vagrantc | not that low | 19:24 |
| sl | my keyboard was delivered :) | 19:26 |
| swivel | judging from the reviews of both librem5 and pinephone the battery life is lacking in both, but i haven't used either yet | 19:27 |
| vagrantc | the reglar pinephone doesn't have amazing battery life, and i even only use it with the modem disabled | 19:28 |
| kfx | about half the time the pbp doesn't suspend at all, and the other half it doesn't wake up | 19:29 |
| kfx | there is some disagreement about why | 19:29 |
| kfx | pinephone suspends fine, but then doesn't wake up fast enough to handle incoming calls | 19:30 |
| mntmn | sl: nice @ keyboard | 19:33 |
| mntmn | kfx: ok, hmm | 19:34 |
| + bibliocar (~bibliocar@pool-74-106-16-80.syrcny.fios.verizon.net) | 19:49 | |
| bibliocar | okay, so I posted a topic on the form, and follow the advice, but I still seem to be having trouble. | 19:51 |
| bibliocar | I have an ext4 file system on an sd card with a full linux install, write "sd" in reform-boot-media, which on the emmc, with the switch I set to boot from emmc. | 20:01 |
| bibliocar | I"m probably doing something simple wrong. | 20:02 |
| bibliocar | okay, nevermind, I see it. | 20:05 |
| bibliocar | you have to run the boot config script | 20:05 |
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| + bibliocar (~quassel@pool-74-106-16-80.syrcny.fios.verizon.net) | 20:43 | |
| bibliocar | okay, that doesn't look like it would do anything new. | 20:51 |
| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@66.115.189.236) | 20:52 | |
| bkeys | swivel: My biggest beef is the USB connectors on mine became really unreliable, and I cannot get a red hat based linux distro on there with any decent support | 20:52 |
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| + bibliocar (~quassel@pool-74-106-16-80.syrcny.fios.verizon.net) | 20:55 | |
| mntmn | bibliocar: i think you currently can't boot from emmc -> sd | 20:57 |
| mntmn | bibliocar: that's what you're trying to do? your bootloader (and switch) is on emmc, but your linux on SD? | 20:58 |
| bibliocar | yes, exactly. | 20:58 |
| mntmn | bibliocar: ok to make that work you would need to flash the u-boot file for the sd card onto the emmc | 20:58 |
| mntmn | or hang on, i think there's a better solution | 20:59 |
| mntmn | bibliocar: forget what i wrote | 21:00 |
| bibliocar | okay. | 21:00 |
| mntmn | bibliocar: the better solution would be to customize /sbin/reform-init on the emmc so that it would mount the sd card https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/blob/main/reform2-imx8mq/reform-tools_1.0-7/sbin/reform-init#L29 | 21:00 |
| bibliocar | oh, that sounds pretty simple. | 21:01 |
| bibliocar | I'll write it up on the forum if I get it to work. | 21:01 |
| vagrantc | is that a limitation of the boundary-u-boot ? upstream u-boot should be able to boot arbitrary devices ... | 21:01 |
| mntmn | bibliocar: before line 28 you can insert: | 21:02 |
| mntmn | elif [ "$BOOTPREF" == "sd" ]; then | 21:02 |
| mntmn | echo "Booting from SD." | 21:02 |
| mntmn | (before the else) | 21:02 |
| mntmn | you can do that because BOOTPART is already "/dev/mmcblk1p1" by default | 21:02 |
| mntmn | but it is not used | 21:02 |
| bibliocar | okay. | 21:03 |
| bibliocar | I'll be doing that manually in nano so it might take me a moment. | 21:04 |
| * mark__ -> mjw | 21:18 | |
| bibliocar | okay, nothings changed, but that may be to problems on my end. I should probably try to install the default debian image to my sd card. | 21:24 |
| mntmn | bibliocar: you changed /sbin/reform-init on the emmc yes? | 21:25 |
| mntmn | bibliocar: and you wrote sd in /reform-boot-medium on the emmc yes? | 21:26 |
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| bibliocar | oh, it should prompt me to hit enter if something wrong with my install, shouldn't it? I haven't been getting that. Yes, I added the elif clause. Maybe there's a typo, let me look. | 21:29 |
| mntmn | bibliocar: what happens instead? | 21:33 |
| bibliocar | it just boots to the emmc debian install. It has grey text, then colored text. I don't think I can easily grab the output? | 21:34 |
| bibliocar | oh, I know what I did wrong. | 21:35 |
| bibliocar | I left out the dollar sign. | 21:35 |
| bibliocar | omg, it works! | 21:37 |
| mntmn | ah | 21:37 |
| mntmn | cool! what did you boot? | 21:38 |
| mntmn | it is a very interesting setup btw that you are trying, good for testing different distros i guess | 21:38 |
| bibliocar | KISS linux. I now have a working kiss linux install. | 21:38 |
| bibliocar | it's a source built distro that was very hard to get to this point, I'm surprised it worked first try. | 21:38 |
| mntmn | cool, i hadn't heard about it | 21:39 |
| mntmn | this one? https://kisslinux.org/ | 21:39 |
| bibliocar | yeah, that's the one. | 21:39 |
| mntmn | interesting also because it says x86_64 | 21:39 |
| mntmn | feel free to post about it in community! | 21:39 |
| bibliocar | Yes, I'm using the glasnost fork. | 21:39 |
| bibliocar | This was exciting and rewarding, thank you. I"m glad I came to IRC. | 21:40 |
| mntmn | are all packages built from source? | 21:40 |
| mntmn | incl firefox etc? | 21:40 |
| bibliocar | ooof, well, it's bootstrapped on reform. I'm scared to try compling firefox. | 21:41 |
| mntmn | ok, got it. firefox will probably not link on reform. IIRC it needs more than 4GB ram to link. | 21:41 |
| bibliocar | I had to make a swap partition in order to get clang to compile. | 21:41 |
| mntmn | heh | 21:42 |
| bibliocar | okaay, thank you. I need to go eat, and maybe lay down. I'll do a write up later. | 21:42 |
| mntmn | cool, enjoy | 21:42 |
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