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| dj-death | ndufresne: yeah there is also the problem of in what cache did you leave the data ;) | 09:19 |
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| dj-death | ndufresne: it has to be in main memory for display | 09:19 |
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| nio | mntmn: the keyboard arrived and it's awesome!! :> | 13:05 |
| mntmn | nio: happy to hear! which color? | 13:10 |
| nio | the black one | 13:11 |
| mntmn | ah yeah | 13:11 |
| nio | and got some spare blank caps. and got some spare blank caps. I was thinking of lasering them in the happylab, but I'm not that familiar with the Trotec Lasers yet. | 13:14 |
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| nio | are the settings for your laser of any help when working with the Trotec lasers? | 13:16 |
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| mntmn | it could be, but you need to do some tests with one or two caps first nio | 13:17 |
| nio | yeah, I thought so too. was thinking that your settings could give me a small head start. :) | 13:18 |
| mntmn | nio: for my 25W epilog i use power 20 / speed 80 | 13:18 |
| nio | nice, thanks! | 13:18 |
| mntmn | nio: it makes a difference if only one cap is engraved vs a full row | 13:19 |
| mntmn | nio: a full row works better because the head needs some travel time which cools down the cap | 13:19 |
| mntmn | nio: if the laser works only on one cap it will melt a little more | 13:19 |
| nio | I see. makes sense and this will save me some time for sure. | 13:20 |
| mntmn | nio: also, i mostly laser when caps are installed on the keyboard so i have to manually focus then | 13:25 |
| nio | mntmn: your're doing it for easier placement right? | 13:29 |
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| mntmn | nio: it just eliminates some work steps | 13:29 |
| mntmn | nio: and yeah the alignment is easier then | 13:30 |
| nio | mntmn: got it | 13:30 |
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| nio | mntmn: you've mentioned a web-based keyboard layout editor in the manual, but I wasn't able to find anything in the forums. do you need any help with this? I'm a web developer | 13:31 |
| mntmn | nio: oh yeah! here's a alpha version http://dump.mntmn.com/reform2-keyboard-editor/refkbd.html | 13:34 |
| mntmn | nio: i need to check this into the reform repo | 13:34 |
| mntmn | nio: currently you can click on a key and then swap and then on another key | 13:35 |
| nio | nice, looks good! :) | 13:35 |
| mntmn | nio: currently this has the standalone firmware hardcoded in it... so don't use it for the laptop | 13:35 |
| nio | alright. | 13:36 |
| nio | mntmn: if you like, you can send me your wish/todo-list for the layout editor. maybe I can help | 13:38 |
| nio | looks functional already though :) | 13:39 |
| mntmn | nio: the most important thing would be to be able to select the keyboard firmware, and i should probably make a CI workflow in the reform repo that builds & updates the firmware | 14:19 |
| mntmn | nio: and probably drag and drop swapping? | 14:20 |
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| nio | mntmn: sounds doable. let me know as soon as it's in the reform repo and I will have a look | 14:46 |
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| nio | mntmn: may I ask why you stepped away from having the big handle on the keyboard? | 17:24 |
| mntmn | nio: very impractical | 17:24 |
| nio | to clunky for angle adjustments? | 17:25 |
| nio | I was kinda looking forward to carrying the keyboard with the handle with me like a purse | 17:26 |
| nio | forgot to ping you, mntmn | 17:30 |
| mjw | ACTION got the package delivered \o/ | 17:31 |
| mjw | But I am not home myself... argh. Need to finish work on this model M keyboard made for giants and then run home to unwrap the keyboard made for humans :) | 17:33 |
| nio | :) I can't remember the last time I was so excited to unwrap a parcel last time | 17:34 |
| nio | Enjoy! | 17:34 |
| mntmn | cool :) | 17:43 |
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| technomancy | https://www.amazon.com/7-4x5-0mm-4-5x3-0mm-Connector-Converter-Inspiron/dp/B00435J7DO <- I have approximately fifteen big-barrel type thinkpad AC adapters strewn all over my house; anyone know whether the old small-barrel style would work on the Reform? | 19:10 |
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| sl | keyyyyyyboards | 19:29 |
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| mntmn | yesss we are shipping out a lot of stuff now | 19:31 |
| sl | got my notice :) thank you! | 19:31 |
| kfx | mine got returned to sender :( | 19:36 |
| sl | dejoooooooooy | 19:37 |
| sl | [kaaaaahn] | 19:37 |
| mntmn | kfx: i just wrote you about that, our mistake, it will go out again tomorrow | 19:38 |
| kfx | mntmn: glad to hear, I was worried I screwed something up. sorry for the trouble | 19:39 |
| mntmn | kfx: you got an email from us? | 19:39 |
| mntmn | (recently i mean) | 19:40 |
| kfx | not yet, I only noticed because I looked up the tracking number | 19:40 |
| kfx | I sent in an email but haven't got a reply | 19:40 |
| mntmn | hmm, maybe you are someone else then :D | 19:40 |
| kfx | no rush, I trust you to get around to it :)( | 19:40 |
| kfx | that typo made my emoticon weird and I'm not sure what to do about it. | 19:40 |
| mntmn | i'll send you a private message | 19:41 |
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| bluerise | mntmn: Hopefully in 10 years I have my U-Boot patchset upstreamed | 20:57 |
| bluerise | ;) | 20:57 |
| bluerise | regarding the graphics: I still don't understand if we have to send MIPI packets ourselves | 20:57 |
| mntmn | bluerise: ha! i followed the recent emails | 20:58 |
| bluerise | I wondered how hard it'd be to build a SoM adapter for the SolidRun i.MX8MP SoM, but then realized it's the same graphics stack as the MIPI, heh | 20:58 |
| bluerise | Yeah, I hope Peng sends an updated patchset soon, then we need to wait for it to be merged | 20:58 |
| mntmn | bluerise: need to check how the solidrun som looks like | 20:58 |
| bluerise | I can do it without Peng, but then we'd have conflicting patchsets maybe | 20:58 |
| mntmn | btw boundary can't deliver new soms before june 2022 | 20:58 |
| bluerise | ugh | 20:58 |
| mntmn | because of the ethernet PHY | 20:58 |
| bluerise | Yeah | 20:59 |
| bluerise | I got the PCN | 20:59 |
| mntmn | qualcomm canceled the orders | 20:59 |
| bluerise | AR8035 PCN, right? | 20:59 |
| bluerise | and the new PHY has 52 weeks lead? | 20:59 |
| mntmn | yeah i didn't get the qc pcn directly, just boundary pcn | 20:59 |
| mntmn | yep | 20:59 |
| mntmn | which is a bit silly | 20:59 |
| mntmn | i need that other phy for another project/som and i know how hard it is to get | 20:59 |
| bluerise | Then I wondered about the CN9K SoM from SolidRun, but it doesn't have any graphics | 20:59 |
| mntmn | i think we will make the pocket reform without ethernet and ask for customized som without the phy | 21:00 |
| bluerise | Sigh | 21:00 |
| mntmn | Q1/Q2 2022 will be challenging. | 21:00 |
| bluerise | Funny thing though: The product from $work doesn't have Ethernet because management thought no one would need it | 21:00 |
| mntmn | ha | 21:00 |
| mntmn | good luck perhaps | 21:01 |
| bluerise | but now every single sold isntance | 21:01 |
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| bluerise | is being sold with a USB-Ethernet adapter | 21:01 |
| bluerise | so we traded nice on-board ethernet for shitty usb-chips | 21:01 |
| bluerise | on the bright side: no AR8035 shortage to worry about. | 21:01 |
| bluerise | We recently switched to a different PMIC, from NXP PFUZE100 to Rohm BD71837 (for the i.MX8MQ) | 21:02 |
| bluerise | and promptly one supplier said 'sorry, even though we promised, the PFUZE100' won't arrive | 21:02 |
| bluerise | thankfully we had enough BD71837 and the SW I had already prepared | 21:03 |
| bluerise | RAM might be getting short next year | 21:03 |
| bluerise | suuucks. | 21:03 |
| mntmn | oop | 21:03 |
| mntmn | we will need to go back to 32 bit and sdram | 21:03 |
| bluerise | Also, I resigned from my position, and since the MNT Reform was bought using company funds, I probably have to give it back. | 21:03 |
| + natalie (~natalie@user/natalie) | 21:03 | |
| bluerise | Good news: I might buy another one then ;) | 21:04 |
| mntmn | bluerise: oh no. can't they just leave it to you | 21:04 |
| mntmn | ah ;) | 21:04 |
| bluerise | Dunno, haven't asked and tbh it's more fun to leave a bunch of HW on my desk | 21:04 |
| bluerise | also I have some nice coworkers who might snatch my stuff up :) | 21:04 |
| mntmn | reforms don't grow on trees! | 21:04 |
| mntmn | we won't be able to make new ones for a while i guess | 21:05 |
| bluerise | I'll probably also have to leave the LX2K there, so I'm thinking hard if there's anything better, but,... there's not. | 21:05 |
| bluerise | mhm | 21:05 |
| bluerise | maybe some coworker can lend me my old stuff ;) | 21:05 |
| bluerise | but yeah, dunno, let's see. | 21:05 |
| mntmn | yeah i would advise not to leave rare boutique hardware behind ;) | 21:05 |
| bluerise | I'm trying to either keep them (somehow) or have someone I trust adopt them ;) | 21:06 |
| bluerise | so yeah, ideally I don't want to implement MIPI-DSI in OpenBSD | 21:10 |
| bluerise | but I didn't find a solution that gets me eDP easily | 21:10 |
| kfx | I am watching your efforts with great interest, because video is gonna be the hard part of getting plan 9 going as well | 21:10 |
| bluerise | e.g. on the RK3399 I'd have HDMI output, and... hm... | 21:11 |
| bluerise | right, the rk3399 has an eDP controller | 21:12 |
| - S0rin (QUIT: Ping timeout: 250 seconds) (~S0rin@user/s0rin) | 21:13 | |
| bluerise | https://www.friendlyarm.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=257 | 21:14 |
| bluerise | that has eDP ;) | 21:14 |
| mntmn | bluerise: my plan is to finish the CM4 adapter, that will yield a bunch of different socs for us to try in reform | 21:15 |
| mntmn | pi cm4, some rockchip thing from pine, some riscv thing from antmicro, fpga thing from radiona | 21:16 |
| mntmn | they all have cm4 form factor | 21:16 |
| mntmn | bluerise: we will find someone else to solve the mipi thing in u-boot then, or i will have to do it | 21:16 |
| mntmn | bluerise: maybe genode can help us as they also managed to do it | 21:17 |
| bluerise | hm? | 21:17 |
| mntmn | i mean genode sculpt os exists for reform and it runs the internal display | 21:17 |
| bluerise | do you have a link to the genode stuff? | 21:17 |
| mntmn | sure, hang on | 21:17 |
| bluerise | it's not just using the linux drivers, is it? | 21:17 |
| mntmn | bluerise: https://genodians.org/skalk/2021-10-25-sculpt-arm | 21:18 |
| + S0rin (~S0rin@user/s0rin) | 21:18 | |
| mntmn | bluerise: lets say, it's a mix https://github.com/genodelabs/genode/blob/fce525f122db34718ce1710ba7b0233da520ac9b/repos/dde_linux/src/drivers/framebuffer/imx8/main.cc#L160 | 21:20 |
| bluerise | src/drivers/framebuffer/imx8mq/source.list:drivers/gpu/drm/drm_mipi_dsi.c | 21:24 |
| bluerise | src/drivers/framebuffer/imx8mq/source.list:drivers/phy/freescale/phy-fsl-imx8-mipi-dphy.c | 21:24 |
| bluerise | src/drivers/framebuffer/imx8mq/source.list:drivers/phy/phy-core-mipi-dphy.c | 21:24 |
| bluerise | heh | 21:24 |
| bluerise | running in easy-mode | 21:24 |
| mntmn | :3 | 21:25 |
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| - aliosablack (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~chomwitt@2a02:587:dc0f:7c00:12c3:7bff:fe6d:d374) | 21:44 | |
| technomancy | is the barrel jack on the reform a 5mm connector? not seeing the size mentoined in the handbook. | 21:46 |
| kfx | 5.5x2.1mm I think, used to be known as "type m" | 21:47 |
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| + freakazoid12345 (~matt@2603:9000:cf0f:80e3:c95:5e78:2621:2637) | 22:25 | |
| technomancy | ah cool; thanks | 22:41 |
| technomancy | omg extremely cursed https://www.ebay.com/itm/253553081267?hash=item3b08f0fbb3:g:6ZIAAOSwW4xazGub | 22:41 |
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| + freakazoid343 (~matt@2603:9000:cf0f:80e3:c95:5e78:2621:2637) | 23:46 | |
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