2021-11-03.log

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_2disbettergood morning all!08:58
_2disbettermntmn: I have sent you a few emails now regarding a order modification. I foolishly wrote you directly here, but as it is with IRC when you disconnect you loose all previous messages, except here. So I'll refrain from contacting you directly and just post here, as I can use the logs to see if anyone responded.08:59
mntmn_2disbetter: no worries, i got all your messages and emails, and it is on my todo list and will be taken care of soon.09:00
_2disbettermntmn: whew! Thanks, I'm sorry to keep pestering you! Just wasn't sure I was reaching ya. Thanks thanks!09:02
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flowymntmn: have you played with subpixel hinting on the reform? do you know what the correct orientation is for this LCD?17:19
mntmnflowy: have not!17:20
flowyis there a specsheet i could look at for this display?17:20
flowyah found it17:22
flowythe part # i mean17:22
flowyRGB vertical stripe, i'll play with this17:24
mjwmntmn, What is the state of the keyboards? Did you receive all parts yet?17:40
mntmnmjw: yes, today got some last parts, they are now ready to ship17:42
mntmnwill be packed this week17:42
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mjw\o/17:56
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mjwChristmas is saved17:56
_2disbetterYeah the keyboard is pretty choice. Do you, mntmn, ,know if the Pocket will be trying to use a similar keyboard, obviously keys missing for the size and all? 17:58
- Christoph_ (QUIT: Ping timeout: 268 seconds) (~Christoph@p4fe73b3c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)17:59
mntmn_2disbetter: yes, we are now testing to use the same kailh switches but with less spacing (will require smaller custom keycaps)18:01
mntmnthe pocket reform will probably be 7" now18:02
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_2disbetterI would LOVE TO HELP test that. Software engineer by day, and I would be happy to help in anyway. I am looking forward to getting the pocket just as soon as it is available. 18:13
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vagrantcpocket reform?18:24
vagrantcACTION raises an eyebrow18:24
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slwhat kind of panel is under consideration for the pocket?18:54
mntmndisplay panel not yet selected, 7" 1920x1080 or 1920x120018:56
slnot eink though?18:56
mntmnno18:56
mntmnat least not initially. we have no experience with eink18:57
mntmncpu very probably imx8mplus18:57
slcool18:57
mntmni already have it here, it runs cooler than imx8m18:57
mntmnso that's good for a smaller device18:57
mntmn(because it's manufactured with a 14nm process)18:58
sli would be very interested in eink display for either the reform or pocket, as a possible option18:58
slmaybe it's possible in the future18:58
mntmnyeah, it could be quite interesting, i just don't know what it entails on the hw driver and software/integration side of things18:59
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_2disbettermntmn: Any idea if a touch screen would be possible? 19:26
_2disbetteror would that make the display layer too thick? 19:27
mntmnlinux gui is not very well suited for touch imho19:27
mntmnexcept maybe things like phosh19:28
mntmnbut none of the productivity applications work with touch19:28
mntmn(i tried)19:28
_2disbetterI understand. I've used touch on our dell all in one through Ubuntu and it was useful. But I guess on the dimunitive screen there will be dimishing returns on touch there19:29
_2disbetter*diminishing 19:29
mntmnyes, i rather ship no touch than a bad touch experience19:29
_2disbetterLet's say you wanted to ship with touch, would it fit in the current design? 19:30
mntmni don't want to speculate about it atm19:32
_2disbettermakes sense!19:36
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technomancyI'd be happy with a device where there was no internal pointing device whatsoever but I'm probably in the minority19:57
technomancyplease ignore me if you want to have wider appeal =)19:57
_2disbetterA mini trackball would be optimal to me. But also a optical trackpoint would work. I would greatly prefer some kind of pointing device. 20:06
mntmnthe current plan is a mini trackball.20:14
mtmit's too bad trackpoint style devices are patented six ways to sunday20:15
_2disbetterMini trackball is perfeckt for me! 20:20
jfredLinux GUIs are constantly getting better at touch input fwiw20:22
jfredprobably have the various Linux phone projects to thank for that20:22
_2disbetterheck yeah, phosh for example works well. The problem however is that most of the applications are not optimized or have given touch input even a glancing though. 20:28
_2disbetterI also think that a 7" device is more of a UMPC than it is a smartphone, so a traditional keyboard and mouse are very welcome for me. 20:29
_2disbetterA mini UMPC that I can repair, should it break, is what I have been absolutely waiting for. 20:29
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kfxtechnomancy: we just need to port the nintendo u-force:  https://i.imgur.com/0qC22cD.jpeg20:40
kfxmtm: all of the original trackpoint patents are expired; the synaptics touchstyk patent expires next year.20:42
mtmawesome20:42
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technomancykfx: lmao nice21:17
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