2021-10-23.log

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chartreusehttps://community.mnt.re/t/small-mark-on-screen/553/311:18
chartreuseWondering if this might be my modded trackball doing this, I didn't think it was sitting proud but now i'm seeing that mark on my screen there too11:18
chartreuseI think it sits clear but there might be enough flex if you grab the back of the screen there?11:19
chartreuseI did test it by putting a wet microfibre cloth ontop of the ball and it's definitly close enough to transfer from that, so it is close. Just now wondering if it was my design that pushed it up slightly?11:24
chartreuseI thought I put it in the same spot but perhaps it's not quite right11:24
chartreuseGoing to be annoyed at myself if this was something I missed, never even thought it was anywhere close enough to touch the screen11:26
chartreuseI'll swap back to the original trackball tomorrow to see if it does the same, and if it's fine I'll try and design a new cup... Can't believe I missed something like that, especially since it's been made into production...11:28
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mntmnchartreuse: hmm but we haven't shipped any "new trackballs" yet if i'm not totally mistaken12:33
sbateschartreuse and mntmn: I have the original trackball, without the ball bearings14:20
mntmnyeah14:39
mntmnsbates: i just checked and i do have the little spot on my personal reform as well, i just never noticed it14:40
mntmnit is very subtle on mine though14:41
sbatesit's pretty subtle on mine also, but I find it noticeable enough to be bothersome14:44
mntmnsorry for that!14:46
mntmnwill go into the list of things to improve for the next rev14:47
sbatesit's cool, I view the Reform as an evolving project and I'm happy to support it because I believe in the project14:48
sbatesI don't have the same expectations as if I was buying a larger production laptop14:50
sbatesbut I would like to figure out a solution for the screen mark, I was thinking that I might replace the screen, but if it is an interaction with the trackball, then it's going to come back14:51
sbatesso I could maybe switch to the trackpad, or wait, if there's a chance that the trackball could be updated, to make it sit lower maybe?14:52
mntmni am sure it is the trackball14:53
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+ _2disbetter (~Boosterfi@pd9e6fac4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)17:58
_2disbetterThe beauty of the trackball and screen thing is that the screen is replaceable as is the trackball. So even if the issue is remedied in the v2/3 model all of us will be able to benefit from it. 18:00
+ chartreuse (~chartreus@S0106f0f249dfd9c3.cg.shawcable.net)18:14
chartreuseOkay so it's not just my modified one, but the stock one can probably just touch it then...18:16
_2disbetterYeah that is what I was gathering from the thread as well. I don't think the initial poster was using a modified ball. 18:17
chartreuseI could design one that sits lower, but that would involve printing a new collar as well. Or even just try making a shim that moves the trackball down 1/2mm or so18:17
_2disbetterThat would be great. It seems like a VERY minor issue. Especially with how easy it is to replace the screen. 18:20
chartreuseNot entirely sure if the ball is directly touching the screen with just the lid closed, or if it's from it hitting it when turning the machine upside down? Or from flexing the lid when grabbing it18:22
_2disbetterinteresting. All good reasons for an attempt at an improvement on the design. I'm not too worried about when I get my Reform, but something nice to know. 18:23
chartreuse I never noticed it till it was pointed out, now I can't not see it XD18:24
_2disbettermntmn: on top of ordering an NVME with my order, I'd like to also add the sleeve. Just for whenever you are able to get around to my email. 18:24
chartreuseThough on mine I've got a stuck pixel on the LCD that thankfully goes away after being on for 10m or so. But is pretty consistent after a cold boot18:25
chartreuseThat's more noticable that this dot18:25
chartreuseJust realized that the bottom edge of the LCD doesn't have the overhang part, might be able to see how close the trackball is from the back there18:28
chartreusehttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/574078317599391744/901507791074787378/20211023_102954.jpg18:30
chartreuseOkay so with my trackball it's extremely close normally. Maybe a hairs width between the screen and ball as an estimate18:31
chartreuseSo squeezing on the screen would definitly touch it, and it lifting up when upside down would definitly be touching18:32
chartreuseMight have to shim it as well as clamping down more with the retaining ring (as it has maybe 1-2mm of vertical play when upside down)18:33
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technomancyI'm seeing about a 50% "real world" success rate waking from `reform-standby`; is that roughly what others are seeing?20:30
technomancyI was getting a better rate when I was doing artificial "do nothing but standby/wake cycles" so something about my real-world usage is adversely affecting the ability to resume20:31
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