2021-10-21.log

khmmy second source (fasttech.com) finally came through and delivered those protected lifepo4 cells.  Ordered them on 29 Sep, delivered 20 Oct00:24
khmno tactical flashlights involved.00:24
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boosterfiveGuten morgen / good morning! 12:32
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mntmnhi!12:36
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BoosterfiveThis might seem like a question for the impatient, but I assure it is not, just trying to know the better bet. I live in Germany but am able to receive stuff from the US outside of German Zoll (legally). I can, of course, also just buy things from Germany with and without VAT. So my question is, if I order the MNT Reform through the Crowd Supply12:44
Boosterfivesite will I get it faster? Or should I order it from MNT themselves and have it delivered to my German address? Hope that question makes sense. 12:44
Boosterfiveand beyond that I'd like to compliment Team MNT on the excellence of their design. It harkens back to early Thinkpads and I LOVE it. 12:45
* Boosterfive -> _2disbetter12:47
_2disbetter<3 12:51
_2disbetterI do currently have an order in with MNT directly. 12:52
_2disbetterI was also wondering if it is possible to alter the keycaps used for the trackball? For example the caps could be printed black instead of clear? 12:54
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mntmn_2disbetter: if you are in germany there is a chance you can get it faster from us13:47
_2disbetterYep, live in Xanten13:48
_2disbetterI have a DIY order in with you all13:48
mntmn_2disbetter: that's cool. i am pretty sure we can ship that quicker than shipping the batch with your stuff to mouser and them sending it back13:48
_2disbetterOk, then I'll cancel my crowdsupply order and just let the MNT order ride. 13:49
_2disbetterCrowd Supply is saying that Dec 9th will be when orders ship13:49
_2disbetterWould you be able to tell if m2 sata drives work, or if only NVME drives work? 13:50
mntmn_2disbetter: only nvme drives work with the imx8mq version13:51
_2disbetterIf not, I'll need to add a NVME drive to the order13:51
mntmn_2disbetter: the ls1028a version will need a sata drive though13:51
mntmnbut that will still take a medium-long time to come out13:51
_2disbetterI have sata drives, so I'm ready for that eventuality. Thanks! 13:52
_2disbetterIs the best way to add a NVME to my order to email you? 13:52
mntmnno, emailing me is never a good idea13:53
mntmnhaha13:54
mntmnah you mean with your MNT order, sorry13:54
mntmnyes, best reply to your original order confirmation email13:54
_2disbetterWill do! 13:54
_2disbetterOne other bitte without wasting too much of your time. Could you give me the current window for when more concrete info will be forthcoming for the Pocket Reform? 13:55
mntmni'd say in the next 2-3 months13:58
Lewis[m]what an excellent xmas present13:58
mntmnthe situation is a bit problematic right now because we can't buy the development kits needed to make some technical decisions13:58
mntmnLewis[m]: no, it will not be available this year13:59
Lewis[m]just the info would be a present I mean13:59
mntmnah :D13:59
mntmnbecause of the chip crisis nothing is available atm13:59
_2disbetterDoes the ls1028a bring with it significant performance improvements or is it mainly about an increase in RAM (from 4 to 8gb)14:01
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mntmn_2disbetter: mainly about ram but also faster single-threaded performance, a tradeoff between 2 fast cortex-a72 cores in ls1028a vs 4 slower cortex-a53 cores in 8mq14:07
_2disbetterseems worth it for the RAM alone. 14:08
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mntmnyeah, depending on your use cases14:10
mntmnone more thing, the ls1028a's PCIe also has a large address space so we could possibly drive radeon GPUs with it14:11
mntmnso in a docked kind of scenario you could use current versions of blender etc14:11
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_2disbetterThat's compelling for sure! 14:15
_2disbetterI sent the store an email regarding the NVME purchase. 14:15
_2disbetterAnd yes I know I could buy it cheaper from somewhere else. I'd like to support the project where and when I can. 14:16
_2disbetterBTW, the reform sleeve is excellent, but have you all considered putting a handle on it, so that you can carry it easily? 14:16
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mntmn_2disbetter: ah, it is fine to buy it somewhere else tbh14:22
mntmn_2disbetter: well, the sleeve is not really designed for being a carrying case because it does not have space for the power supply for example, so it is more like to be put in a backpack or bigger bag14:23
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_2disbettermntmn that makes sense! 14:25
_2disbettermntmn: that makes sense! 14:25
_2disbetterDid my question about getting dark trackball keys make sense? 14:26
mntmnah, we already produced all the trackball keys14:27
mntmndark SLA does not look very good tbh14:27
_2disbetterok, no worries. 14:31
_2disbetterAre you familiar with the Framework laptop? It isn't FOSS focused but is the current posterchild of right to repair. 14:36
mntmnyes, familiar14:36
_2disbetterIt runs Linux quite well. Both Fedora and Ubuntu work out of the box, and there are reports of Arch / Manjaro working as well. 14:37
_2disbetterI got one and I love it, but I'd be lying if I didn't admit that I'm looking forward to the Reform more than using the Framework. 14:38
_2disbetterAs a software developer myself, I'm not completely crazy about FOSS ideologies, but I REALLY like what the Reform represents and the direction it is going. 14:38
mntmnthe framework laptop is made by compal14:39
mntmnso it is mostly outsourced14:40
mntmn(source: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27927888 )14:40
mntmnas there is not much insight into how it works technically (also no schematics) and there is no copyleft on any of the design, and it uses intel, i am mostly not interested in it14:41
mntmni am only interested in watching it from a marketing/business POV, like, how is the whole experiment doing14:42
_2disbetterYeah, I have no problem with the Framework. But I am glad things like the Reform, Pinephone, Librem 5 exist. 14:46
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_2disbetterHere is another question for your Lukas: XMPP or Matrix14:53
_2disbetteror neither - IRC14:54
_2disbetteroh here is another, if I come to Berlin and help assemble some MNTs does bump me up in the order queue? 14:58
_2disbetterHahahahaha! 14:58
_2disbetter*MNT Reforms does that14:59
mntmnno, sorry ;)15:03
mntmn_2disbetter: not sure if you have seen community.mnt.re15:04
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sknebelI feel like "getting to assemble your reform at MNT" is more "perk you'd pay extra for" :D16:02
Lewis[m]I would 100% pay for a workshop tour + self-assembly with MNT folks on hand to offer help or assistance :D16:05
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jfredyeah, it's been interesting seeing all the hype about the Framework despite the lack of published schematics etc... like it seems clear that they care more about repairability than most laptop manufacturers, but what they're doing feels like it should be the bare minimum from a large manufacturer17:17
vkoskivhttps://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/87XXZRiRtAotAsVwAhVV2T-480-80.jpg17:17
vkoskivs/design/mnt assembly/17:18
vkoskivmntmn: re: framework laptop - I was talking to people when I was debating getting a reform, and they all pointed me towards the framework project17:19
vkoskivAt this time, repairability and right to repair is becoming mainstream, but libre hardware evidently isn't17:19
vkoskivAnd these were fairly technical people, they know about free software17:19
vkoskivSeems that free hardware isn't a widely known concept yet, at least in this anecdote of mine.17:20
vkoskivI think the reform is great in spreading that word. I know I'll be bragging about mine everywhere I take it.17:20
mntmnjfred, vkoskiv: agreed17:25
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boosterfivemntmn: Are you familiar with Superbooth? It is a synthesizer convention that is held in Berlin every year. I am asking because I saw a picture on Mastodon you posted with a the Reform, an interface, and a Steinberger. 21:29
boosterfiveI'm a big synth guy. In 2018 I was working at Superbooth at the Percussa table. I had an awesome time in Berlin. 21:30
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mntmnboosterfive: hmm it rings a bell but i missed out on it so far!21:34
erlehmannboosterfive oh funny do you know bytebeat and my talk about making music with a c compiler?21:35
erlehmannboosterfive i bet you know cool tricks i don't so far21:35
boosterfiveerlehmann: Hi! No sorry I haven't heard of bytebeat, but I just watched a video and I was digging it! 21:38
boosterfiveI don't know about knowing things you don't, but I really like modular synths, and synths in general. DSP is also very interesting. 21:38
erlehmannboosterfive look for “making music with a c compiler” and a paper about bytebeat by viznut21:41
erlehmannboosterfive kragen javier sitaker made a webbed site about bytebeat21:41
erlehmannexcuse my bad englishing in the talk21:42
erlehmannboosterfive my synths look like this http://news.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/bin/pluck.c ;)21:42
erlehmannyou can run it on the reform to make it into a badly tuned cheap e guitar!21:42
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erlehmannboosterfive http://canonical.org/~kragen/bytebeat/21:43
erlehmannboosterfive https://media.ccc.de/v/saal_mp7_og_-_2013-07-06_15:00_-_making_music_with_a_c_compiler_-_erlehmann_-_506721:44
boosterfiveerlehmann: that something like something I will absolutely do when I get the Reform! 21:46
erlehmannwell you can prob run it on anything with a c compiler21:46
erlehmanni am very fascinated by turning mathematical primitves into musical primitives21:46
erlehmannlike an underflow turns into a percussion sound21:47
boosterfivehadn't really thought about that, but it makes perfect sense to me. 21:47
erlehmannwell watch my talk then21:48
erlehmannit contains some of this21:48
boosterfiveAlso your english is great! Wir koennen auch Deutsch sprechen, und dann wurde ich mir enschuldigen fuer meine schlechte Deutsch. 21:48
erlehmannnein ich spreche signal ganz falsch aus im ganzen vortrag21:48
erlehmannwie peinlich!21:48
boosterfiveSie Deutschen sagen immer dass ihre Deutsch schlect ist, obwohl es fast perfekt ist. 21:49
erlehmann”dann wurde ich mir enschuldigen fuer meine schlechte Deutsch.” that is basically how ppl speak in germany when they are mumbling a bit, so you are good21:49
boosterfiveEin Wort nicht richtig zu sagen auf Englisch ist so gross ein Problem. 21:49
boosterfivewie auf Deutsch21:50
erlehmannok i think we should stay with english21:50
erlehmannbc i don't understand that21:50
boosterfiveyeah I messed it up21:50
erlehmannalso out of courtesy to others interested in the topic21:50
erlehmannso what do you do, synthie-wise?21:50
boosterfivebut I was saying, that to mispronounce a word in english is not bad at all, as you can still be understood in most cases. 21:51
boosterfiveHowever in German mispronouncing a word will mean you are not understood in most cases. 21:51
boosterfiveThat was very frustrating in the beginning when I was trying to get started learning German. 21:51
boosterfivewell I like to make video games in my free time. I enjoy all aspects of game design. Art, music, sound effects, and programming. 21:52
boosterfiveI learned how to play the piano as a kid, and so I can read music, but am very rusty on the actual piano. 21:52
boosterfiveSo I use synth for sound design, music, and for fun. 21:53
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erlehmannboosterfive do you use trackers like schism?21:58
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boosterfiveerlehmann: no for the longest time I was using Fruity Loops and then switched to Bitwig. 22:00
boosterfivebut most of it now is done through a octatrack and O|D ER-102/1 eurorack module22:00
boosterfivewhen I need sequencing22:00
erlehmannno idea what that is22:00
boosterfiveFruity Loops is now called FL Studio. And Bitwig is a newer DAW from a company out of Berlin actually. Both are DAWs though. 22:10
Lewis[m]DAW being digital audio workstation, just in case you're also one of today's lucky ~10,00022:16
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boosterfivemntmn: I'm actually _2disbetter. New to IRC really, and still figuring out aliases. I'm under 2disbetter on the MNT community forum. 23:10
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