2021-09-28.log

khmI ordered what claim to be protected lifepo4 cells.  I wonder what I'll actually get!00:00
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chartreusemntmn: Sorry for missing the message, I wasn't looking at IRC. Yeah it's the WDT values (couldn't find a nice macro to avoid hard coding it like that)01:13
mntmnno problem, i like hard coding01:13
chartreuseButI think I updated the timing in mine and think I sent a pull for the new value. Or maybe I forgot the later01:13
chartreuseBut yeah 1s or maybe 0.5s is probably where it should be01:14
chartreuseI just need to find my right angle cable, or see if I can route a normal one inside the case. Since I'm sure I'll play around with tweaking it some01:15
chartreusekhm: Good chance they are what they say they are, you can get tiny protection boards for normal lipos's that only increase the length by 1mm or 2, so it'd make sense they exist for lifepo401:16
chartreuse vkoskiv: If you want a toasty laptop I have my HP zx8000. Uses a 3.6GHz HT Desktop Pentium 4 (560). A whopping 115W TDP cpu in a "laptop"01:18
mntmnyou did, i noticed later when i got a little merge conflict01:18
mntmnso, all good01:18
mntmnok, time to sleep, n8n8n801:19
chartreuseG'night, I'll try and give the new firmware a try01:20
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dustfingervkoskiv: Thanks!10:52
vkoskivdustfinger: Appreciated, but what for? :)10:54
dustfingervkoskiv: "The crowdsupply website is still showing December 9th as11:12
dustfinger          the ship date, which is the same date that it was 6 days ago when my11:12
dustfinger          order was placed."11:12
vkoskivAh! Didn't scroll that far up and forgot!11:12
vkoskivYou'd still probably get better info from mntmn directly11:13
dustfingeroops, sorry for the paste. My cient does not auto correct line endings.11:13
dustfingerYah, I will take a look. I wasn't sure how often the info was updated.11:13
dustfingerI am wanting to buy one or two more for family.11:14
vkoskivHeh. I get enough tech support calls from grandparents, and they use iOS!11:15
vkoskivThough as time goes on, the more I cherish each call I get. Always fun to solve a problem for them11:15
dustfingerHe hee, yah, I have lived through that. These additional reforms would be for my kids though.11:16
vkoskivOoh, now there is a good childhood right there. I kind of regret how long Windows kept me away from getting into programming.11:17
vkoskivI built my first system at 8, but didn't start programming until 1611:17
vkoskivRunning Windows all those years, the thought didn't even cross my mind that it was even a possibility that I could write code for it.11:18
vkoskivIf I were running linux, and with some encouragement, I might have gotten into the groove a bit earlier.11:18
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dustfingerYour story reminds me of The Art of UNIX Programming by Eric S. Raymond. If you have not read that, you should. The arguments in that book explain why you never even thought about programming when you had a windows box.11:38
vkoskivI'll look it up, thanks11:39
mntmndustfinger: we are about to ship the first batch of post-crowdfunded reforms to crowd supply.12:18
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dustfingermntmn: That is exciting :-) I pruchased around the begining of August (I think), so I am not sure what batch mine would be in.12:41
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mntmndustfinger: if aug 2021 it will take a while longer, if aug 2020 it will be soon13:07
mntmnchartreuse: now rocking your modded trackball in my personal reform13:07
mntmnit's almost too fast now, thinking to throttle the acceleration a bit13:07
vkoskivmntmn: Do you post everything in parallel on twitter/mastodon? Or am I missing out on things by not using mastodon?13:14
mntmnvkoskiv: i try to post most things on both, especially important ones13:17
mntmni do not use a crossposter but do it manually13:17
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vkoskivIs it possible to convert a cs order to a direct one? Or would that even make sense13:32
mntmnno, that is not possible, you can only cancel your CS order, but obviously i don't recommend that13:36
Lewis[m]mntmn: is there a preferred way of requesting local pickup to save postage and/or packing material?13:37
mntmnlocal pickup is extra trouble for us tbh13:38
mntmnas we don't have a shop frontend13:38
mntmnmaybe we could collaborate with some existing store later13:38
vkoskivI get the sense that there is roughly a million things on your to-do list at this time :D13:38
mntmnthat is so13:38
Lewis[m]Fair enough :)13:44
vkoskivmntmn: The trackpad & ball show up as 0€ on the new page, just fyi14:46
mntmnvkoskiv: that is inentional14:47
mntmnvkoskiv: one pointing device is included in the price14:47
mntmnintentional14:47
vkoskivBut not when ordering from crowd supply :(14:48
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mntmnvkoskiv: well...14:53
mntmnanyway, direct orders from us now possible again https://shop.mntmn.com/products/mnt-reform 14:53
vkoskivI guess the ~160€ difference is cs's cut + handling fee stuff14:55
mntmnalso don't forget taxes / VAT14:55
mntmnif you order from us inside EU, we have to give 19% of that money to the govt.14:55
vkoskivThat's better than the 24% on CS14:57
vkoskivNot salty by the way - just an observation :D14:57
mntmnyeah15:00
mntmni mean they chose their own prices15:01
mntmnand they took significant risk with a big stock purchase from us in the first place15:01
vkoskivYeah, fair of them to take a cut15:02
vkoskivAnd I'm guessing the order from CS will still ship a bit earlier than new orders on mntmn.com coming in now15:02
vkoskivIs it really called HARDware because it's HARD?15:03
mntmnyes15:06
mntmn;)15:06
mntmnand yes, CS orders have priority15:06
vkoskivReading the BoM lists, you really had to order each part individually and find the best supplier?15:07
vkoskivI think I heard you mention it's a full time job to source parts, or something to that effect15:07
mntmnyes, of course15:11
vkoskivCrazy amount of work! And again, that's just one part of the whole project.15:12
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niomntmn: regarding the standalone keyboards. I checked the IRC logs and couldn't find anything. and I I hope I don't come over pushy, cause I know you have a lot on your table right now. what's your gut feeling for when you can ship those?22:02
mntmnnio: no problem at all! we expected to get the cases for batch 1 today, but they are still stuck in transit to us. we will start shipping as soon as we have 'em22:03
mntmnlets see if UPS has a new ETA...22:03
mntmnnope, still "Your package is in transit. We're updating plans to schedule your delivery"22:04
vkoskivSpeaking of the cases, are the reform case bits just milled from solid blocks of aluminium?22:04
mntmnyes22:05
vkoskivA lot of milling there :D22:07
nioah, I see. sounds good!22:07
vkoskivI know it's a bit superficial, but a rigid case is a big selling point for me.22:07
nioyes it is. that sounds awesome. I‘m looking so excited about this keyboard. :´D22:09
technomancyit's one of the most noticeable improvements over the novena22:09
niomntmn: on this occasion, thanks for the great work! it baffles me every time what you are doing and how you approach it. <3 22:15
mntmnnio: thank you!22:15
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erlehmannvkoskiv technomancy just wait until the heirloom reform is released!23:53
erlehmannwith a case out of wood ;)23:53
erlehmannactually, you can probably make that yourself lol23:53

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