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| + dustfinger (~user@d75-159-231-192.abhsia.telus.net) | 14:45 | |
| dustfinger | I purchased an mnt-reform in Aug. Approximately when would that batch be expected to ship? | 14:52 |
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| dustfinger | I am considering purchasing a second mnt-reform. If I purchased before the end of the month, when whould I expect the second reform to ship? | 14:52 |
| vkoskiv | dustfinger: The crowdsupply website is still showing December 9th as the ship date, which is the same date that it was 6 days ago when my order was placed. | 15:30 |
| vkoskiv | So presumably you can still get in that batch if you order now | 15:30 |
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| + rasmus (~rasmus@c80-217-132-63.bredband.tele2.se) | 15:58 | |
| + freakazoid12345 (~matt@2603:9000:cf0f:80e3:3d44:b4b4:9588:c922) | 16:46 | |
| - freakazoid343 (QUIT: Ping timeout: 268 seconds) (~matt@2603-9000-cf0f-80e3-3d44-b4b4-9588-c922.inf6.spectrum.com) | 16:49 | |
| chartreuse | mntmn: Is there instructions on how to flash the LPC? Was wanting to play around with your changes and see if I can help some (now that I know which file it is) | 17:24 |
| mntmn | chartreuse: should be in the handbook :3 | 17:25 |
| chartreuse | Is it just flicking the programming switch and pressing the button? | 17:25 |
| chartreuse | Ah okay, I was worried I need jtag for it | 17:25 |
| mntmn | chartreuse: yes and you need a second computer | 17:25 |
| chartreuse | Ah okay | 17:25 |
| mntmn | chartreuse: with micro usb cable | 17:25 |
| mntmn | chartreuse: flashing is via the microusb port on the motherboard | 17:25 |
| chartreuse | Ah alright thanks | 17:25 |
| mntmn | chartreuse: LPC will appear as a storage device | 17:25 |
| mntmn | but it is implemented quite badly by nxp so only use the flash.sh script to write to it (or what's in there) | 17:26 |
| chartreuse | Doesn't need to be a reform right? Can just use a normal linux laptop or Pi 4 or such | 17:26 |
| mntmn | the file can only be written linearly | 17:26 |
| chartreuse | Great XD | 17:26 |
| mntmn | yes whatever random computer | 17:26 |
| mntmn | with usb2.0 | 17:26 |
| chartreuse | Glad it's not terrible for end users to change. not as easy as the keyboard but still good | 17:26 |
| mntmn | yeah | 17:27 |
| mntmn | no special drivers needed | 17:27 |
| chartreuse | For the keyboard I've just left my switch in programming mode, and with a plastic spudger I can press the button without taking the bezel off | 17:27 |
| mntmn | yeah! | 17:27 |
| mntmn | doing the same | 17:27 |
| mntmn | it might be possible to do everything via software with some tricks later | 17:27 |
| chartreuse | Trackball was a little more annoying but I only did one quick test | 17:27 |
| mntmn | avr can reset itself into flash mode | 17:28 |
| chartreuse | Which was changing it to do the math as 16-bit and cap rather than overflowing if flicked too fast | 17:28 |
| chartreuse | Oh neat, I didn't know that was possible | 17:28 |
| mntmn | and i guess lpc should also be able to write its own flash | 17:28 |
| mntmn | yep | 17:28 |
| chartreuse | I guess it's just endering the bootloader | 17:28 |
| mntmn | yes | 17:28 |
| chartreuse | Programming the LPC with the system on seems like a bad idea, but I guess the LPC is never really "off" unless the batteries are removed | 17:28 |
| mntmn | yeah that is true, resetting it after update might toggle the power gpios for a moment | 17:29 |
| mntmn | not sure though how it would play out | 17:29 |
| mntmn | with enough massaging it is probably possible to do everything on the fly | 17:29 |
| chartreuse | Do you program it with the batteries removed normally? Or just with the system off? | 17:29 |
| mntmn | just system off | 17:29 |
| mntmn | doesn't really matter | 17:30 |
| chartreuse | I might see if I can find one of my right angle microusb cables and run it out one of the side panels for testing | 17:30 |
| mntmn | yup | 17:30 |
| chartreuse | Always paranoid about the batteries with the bottom off | 17:30 |
| chartreuse | Still have no clue what happened to that person on the forum that blew a trace while removing the batteries | 17:31 |
| chartreuse | At least they're not LiIon's | 17:31 |
| mntmn | yeah also have no clue yet | 17:32 |
| mntmn | but it only happened twice in total afaik | 17:32 |
| mntmn | and one of them was a short | 17:32 |
| chartreuse | Just just no clue how the trace the blew shorted, it looked like the trace between the + and - of the two right most cells, which is a fair bit away from anything that could short to it | 17:33 |
| chartreuse | And the bottom of the boards are covered in kapton | 17:33 |
| chartreuse | Just reading up on all the commits to the LPC you've made to try and catch up with what's been changed | 17:35 |
| chartreuse | See what else I can help with on the keyboard or LPC side | 17:35 |
| chartreuse | The LPC itself doesn't look so bad, just was a bit more intimidating with all the source files and not knowing quite where to look | 17:35 |
| chartreuse | Just looking you have the LPC set to not go into power save if the system is powered, is there any thing its doing that is better for it to be active 100%? Could be worth putting it into a partial idle state if it's not busy or such. | 17:38 |
| mntmn | lpc code is also basically one file | 17:39 |
| mntmn | plus a bunch of library stuff | 17:39 |
| chartreuse | Maybe not power-down/power-save, but a state where it's sitting waiting for interrupts from serial data or the charge controller | 17:39 |
| chartreuse | Yeah, didn't realize that before | 17:39 |
| mntmn | well the wakeup time is quite annoying | 17:39 |
| mntmn | and also i am just under a lot of time pressure atm so i can only make minimal solutions | 17:40 |
| chartreuse | No worries, you've got lots to focus on. I'm fine with expanding on what you do, just trying to learn the system myself some | 17:40 |
| chartreuse | Hopefully you can get most of the orders done enough to relax again | 17:41 |
| mntmn | yeah, contributions like yours help a lot! | 17:41 |
| mntmn | we will decide tomorrow or so if we will ship the next batch with trackballs with the beads btw | 17:42 |
| chartreuse | Ah nice, gotta test them out to see if people like them. I personally love the change | 17:44 |
| chartreuse | So much smoother and less prone to dirt buildup | 17:44 |
| chartreuse | I'd personally also be tempted to try and mount a plastic cover over the sensor so I'm not cleaning that directly | 17:44 |
| chartreuse | Definitly would be neat seeing my trackball in more people's reforms <3 | 17:45 |
| chartreuse | You'd probably need to tweak the hole size for the heat inserts, I didn't have that type to test so only tapped holes in the plastic | 17:45 |
| chartreuse | The hole size I picked was from the datasheet of the ones you listed IIRC | 17:46 |
| mntmn | yep, we tweaked the hole sizes | 17:49 |
| chartreuse | Would be more expensive, but could be nice to make all the top holes heat inserts, though those are removed far less than the cap | 17:50 |
| chartreuse | I've not managed to strip the holes I've done straight in the plastic yet | 17:50 |
| chartreuse | But haven't had to open the trackball anywhere near as often | 17:50 |
| chartreuse | Last time I took the top off is when I tried changing from 2.5mm bearings to 1.5mm | 17:51 |
| chartreuse | There's not a huge difference in the feeling between the two that I can tell, but I did find it much harder not to get glue on the contact side | 17:51 |
| + freakazoid343 (~matt@2603-9000-cf0f-80e3-3d44-b4b4-9588-c922.inf6.spectrum.com) | 18:08 | |
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| + rasmus (~rasmus@c80-217-132-63.bredband.tele2.se) | 18:26 | |
| technomancy | I thought swayidle wasn't working to turn off my backlight because every time I opened my reform the light was already on | 18:46 |
| technomancy | turns out picking it up to open the lid was enough to jiggle the trackball and wake it up | 18:46 |
| technomancy | I realized by looking thru the acrylic thru the keyboard I could tell the backlight was off without picking it up >_< | 18:47 |
| + freakazoid12345 (~matt@2603-9000-cf0f-80e3-3d44-b4b4-9588-c922.inf6.spectrum.com) | 18:50 | |
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| doppler | hahaha | 18:56 |
| + freakazoid343 (~matt@2603:9000:cf0f:80e3:d961:6f41:954c:7423) | 19:01 | |
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| chartreuse | technomancy: Yep, especially with the ball bearings it moves quite easilly | 19:36 |
| chartreuse | I'd probably see if you could configure it so movement isn't a wakeup source | 19:37 |
| chartreuse | Thinkpads always had a nice thing where the Fn key can wake the system from standby | 19:37 |
| chartreuse | Could posibly make the MNT key (Super key) do the same | 19:38 |
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| technomancy | doesn't really bother me once I figured out what was going on | 20:21 |
| technomancy | I mean, having actual suspend working reliably would be aces, but until that happens, quirky backlight scripting is fine | 20:21 |
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| + rasmus (~rasmus@c80-217-132-63.bredband.tele2.se) | 20:26 | |
| chartreuse | Yeah I'd like to try and figure out what the issue is. Something with the pci bus it seems | 20:56 |
| chartreuse | Since sometimes I'll have it sorta come back, but the wifi card is constantly resetting and lagging the system | 20:57 |
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