2021-09-23.log

- savely (QUIT: Quit: Client closed) (~savely@62.113.119.217)00:20
khmmntmn: is there a wiki or something for reform?  I'm trying to track down how to calibrate the battery gauge, and it would be nice to document stuff like that somewhere01:58
technomancywikis are for products whose official docs don't accept contributions.02:01
technomancy(not really)02:01
khmI'm really looking for some place to stash lore until it is verified enough to be worth documenting, if that makes sense02:02
technomancypull requests to the docs?02:06
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khmI don't want the information to necessarily be nailed to a javascript-heavy git ui02:27
technomancyACTION sighs deeply02:28
technomancyyeah fair =(02:29
technomancyACTION loads up a random gitlab URL from his browser history and counts the seconds until it's completely loaded ... twelve02:29
khmI don't think pull requests are particularly discoverable anyway.  Some of this class of information might sit unused for months or years, then be rediscovered when needed02:30
technomancycan't really expect everyone to have notifications for the repo on and receive PR notifications over email02:30
khmI want Tier 2 documentation :)02:30
khmbesides which, I don't have an approved account on source.mnt.re02:31
chartreuseI don't think it's used but GitLab does have the wiki feature, though that'd require the accounts on there.02:51
chartreuseI do also think that maybe something better for community documentation could be done besides the forum02:51
chartreuseThough not sure really what. Yeah the forum is editable but not the most organized thing02:52
khmI keep 'losing' stuff in the forum.  03:32
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doppleryeah, something like that would def be useful03:49
dopplerI could dump battery recovery info there, too, for example03:49
ndufresnemntmn: we sent v5 of vp9 support, with imx8m support, do you know if someone here would be interested in testing and giving some tested-by feedback? We are looking if there is any real life stream that do not decode well03:52
chartreusevp9 the video codec?04:46
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mntmnndufresne: i would like to test it for sure, maybe others here too09:49
mntmnscops: ping09:49
scopsyes?09:50
mntmnscops: just thought you might also be interested in trying out ndufresne's vp9 support 09:52
scopshm yes... i just dont have some time this week. maybe next week :/09:53
mntmnkhm: tier 2 docs are of course welcome, i'm just unsure how to run something like a wiki on our own site and moderate it due to the harsh legal situation around UGC in germany09:53
mntmnkhm: i.e. i would be responsible for any spam or "illegal" content appearing on it09:54
mntmnkhm: that's also why source and community have moderated signup09:54
mntmnkhm: if you're willing to host a wiki-like that would be nice of course. or md files in a sr.ht repo or something. we could also mirror that later09:56
mntmnkhm: as an example for tier 2 docs for another of our products: http://www.gregdonner.org/zz9000/zz9000compendium.html09:57
+ rasmus (~rasmus@c80-217-132-63.bredband.tele2.se)12:03
mntmnchartreuse: ooc, what kind of glue did you use for the bearings?12:09
vkoskivMeanwhile I'm wondering if it's weird if I start printing parts for a laptop that will arrive december/january :D12:10
vkoskivI would assume that normal cyanoacrylate glues would work nicely for that application.12:15
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ndufresnemntmn: scops: thanks, let me know on time if you need any help14:06
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khmdoppler: let's go I guess http://sciops.net/information/technology/reform_school/19:13
dopplerI'll follow up19:17
mntmnnice!19:32
khmdoppler: mntmn: if you have a sr.ht account send me the username and I'll give you commit bits20:02
vkoskivCurious, is the estimated ship time just a rough estimate from CS or does that info come from MNT?20:03
mntmnvkoskiv: a mix of both20:05
mntmnwe are closing in on shipping the first 25 units to mouser20:05
vkoskivWill be fun to see more people get theirs and share thoughts20:06
vkoskivBecause I've been reading and watching just about all coverage there is.20:06
robinconverting the barrel jack to usb-c is apparently also pretty easy. https://www.xyte.ch/ (iirc) had it as a modding option but recommended keeping the barrel jack since it's more robust20:09
robin(though a regular thinkpad charger is a lot larger than a small usb-c laptop charger...)20:10
robini wonder how difficult of a mod it would be to have both20:10
technomancyI would love to mod my reform to work with the old style big barrel thinkpad ones20:17
technomancyI've got like nine of them laying around the house20:17
khmI bet if you contacted a cable vendor on aliexpress we could do a run of thinkpad -> reform cable adapters20:22
chartreusemntmn: I just used superglue (cyanoacrylate) I put a tiny amount into the holes then dropped the bearing in20:22
chartreuseYou can get replacement thinkpad barrel jacks off ebay, in the Thinkpads they connect with a short cable internally. If you could somehow mount it you could wire it in20:26
mntmnchartreuse: ok, we made a first experiment with your model today and awaiting the correct chrome bearings tomorrow20:27
mntmni think it's very promising20:28
chartreuseGlad to hear! I've been very much enjoying it20:28
chartreuseLots of parameters to tweak if it's not quite right with your printer or bearings and such20:28
chartreuseSorry if the code isn't the most clean20:29
vkoskivWhat's the diameter of the ball? I couldn't find that in the materials yet20:33
chartreuse25mm It's listed in the BoM file20:34
vkoskivderp. reform2-other-parts.csv20:35
chartreuseTook me forever to find where it was listed as well XD20:35
vkoskivRight there in the middle :D20:35
- rasmus (PART: Disconnected: timeout during receiving) (~rasmus@c80-217-132-63.bredband.tele2.se)20:35
vkoskivYou provided too much documentation! I can't find what I want to know :D20:35
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vkoskivBall seems to be 30mm in my PowerBook 15020:36
khmhttps://shop.sciencefirst.com/accessories/2457-ball-steel-25-mm.html  so cheap I might just do it20:39
vkoskivSomeone mentioned before that the sensor might have a hard time tracking a reflective sphere surface20:40
chartreuseThey got it working in the forum just fine20:40
vkoskivAh20:40
chartreuseSounds like the issue was some dirt or something they missed on the sensor20:40
khmI don't have a 3d printer, so my plan is to recreate the forum post where the person just drilled where the studs are and glued in bearings20:53
khmhope it works20:53
mntmnkhm: if not, you can print out chartreuse/our final model later20:59
khmhttps://www.etsy.com/listing/908123875/  so many options21:03
dopplerI need some of that healing energy in my mousing21:07
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