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| ex-parrot | chartreuse: https://img.hotplate.co.nz/RKhd0Khp | 05:44 |
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| ex-parrot | I didn’t make any measurements before either but I’m loading up the CPU now to see what happens | 05:47 |
| ex-parrot | I swapped out the thermal goop for a thermal pad too, just for easier maintenance | 05:47 |
| ex-parrot | (And to use up some thermal pads… | 05:48 |
| chartreuse | Nice just saw your tweet, I changed out the thermal paste as well when I took it off | 06:09 |
| chartreuse | You should be able to feel the heat on the back center edge as it warms up | 06:10 |
| chartreuse | mntmn: Related to the discussion above about the bluetooth adapters, if there's ever a second motherboard revision, perhaps a second usb hub could be added? Add the usb lane to the miniPCIe slot, as well as perhaps another two internal USB headers like the keyboard and mouse use | 06:13 |
| chartreuse | Just for expandability/hacking. | 06:14 |
| ex-parrot | I’ve had the CPU at 100% for half an hour and it seems to have stabilised at 48ish degrees | 06:17 |
| ex-parrot | 46 on the other thermal zones | 06:17 |
| ex-parrot | Which seems perfectly adequate to me, doubly for a fanless system | 06:18 |
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| chartreuse | Yeah, IIRC mine before could go into the mid 50s | 06:21 |
| ex-parrot | Good job us | 06:22 |
| doppler | I believe mine stabilizes in the mid-50s even under light to medium load | 06:22 |
| doppler | neat stuff | 06:22 |
| ex-parrot | I wonder if a thermal pad might work better for the main CPU interface too because the aluminium surface isn’t totally smooth either | 06:22 |
| ex-parrot | The pad may fill in the gaps better? Idk I guess I could have been more scientific about this :P | 06:23 |
| chartreuse | I don't think it would though, they have worse characteristics than paste | 06:23 |
| chartreuse | What I did was spread paste on the heatsink first to fill the gaps | 06:23 |
| ex-parrot | Normally yeah | 06:23 |
| chartreuse | Basically rub it in the smooth the surface out with a fine amount of paste | 06:24 |
| ex-parrot | the pad I used is one of the ones PC Engine uses for their APU2s so it should be able to dissipate enough heat at least | 06:24 |
| chartreuse | I used Arctic MX-4 since I didn't want to use a conductive paste | 06:24 |
| chartreuse | I think the fanless sealed in enclosure is more of the issue than the interface | 06:24 |
| ex-parrot | Definitely | 06:25 |
| ex-parrot | I prefer the pad because I don’t feel like re-pasting it every time I take off the hewrsink too | 06:25 |
| chartreuse | The thermal pads to the case will improve the performance by letting some radiate outside | 06:25 |
| chartreuse | You can always give it a try, though I feel the paste will do better, even with the rough surface | 06:25 |
| ex-parrot | Seems fine so far at least | 06:25 |
| chartreuse | The other "downside" with the current method is the lack of pressure on the top left | 06:25 |
| ex-parrot | I suspect you’re right | 06:25 |
| chartreuse | So when I was testing with the paste I noticed that side didn't have anywhere near as much contact pressure | 06:26 |
| chartreuse | Though was able to tweak it a bit to get it at least even on the right side | 06:26 |
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| mntmn | chartreuse: ack @ another usb hub | 10:09 |
| chartreuse | Just could be a neat feature to easily add things internally | 10:32 |
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| mntmn | yes, agreed | 11:35 |
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| vkoskiv | So if reform ships from Germany, why does the order page apply the really expensive 24% Finnish VAT when ordering? | 20:01 |
| vkoskiv | Might be a dumb Q, but my understanding is that it should be under German VAT there. | 20:02 |
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| vkoskiv | mntmn: I interrupt your day to summon you (again) :D | 20:28 |
| vkoskiv | Downloading the IRC logs and grepping for VAT now | 20:30 |
| vkoskiv | It's a bit confusing that the order page tacks on that 24% though, no? | 20:32 |
| Lewis[m] | If you’re purchasing from Finland, you would pay Finnish VAT afaik | 20:56 |
| Lewis[m] | It’s (mostly) based on the location of the consumer, not the supplier | 20:57 |
| vkoskiv | Interesting. It's not *that* much higher than the 19% VAT in germany | 20:57 |
| vkoskiv | But usually when ordering stuff from germany, it's german VAT that is applied | 20:57 |
| vkoskiv | Maybe it's a loophole that's been closed | 20:58 |
| vkoskiv | I know mindfactory stopped shipping to individuals in finland a number of years back. Now they ship only if you're a business | 20:58 |
| mntmn | vkoskiv: you would need to talk to crowd supply about these things i'm afraid | 21:16 |
| vkoskiv | Will do | 21:36 |
| vkoskiv | The extra 5% VAT isn't a dealbreaker, though. | 21:37 |
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| vkoskiv | Crowd supply had a helpful page with info: https://www.crowdsupply.com/guide/fulfillment-and-logistics | 23:11 |
| vkoskiv | TL;DR: Target country VAT is applied. As far as I understand | 23:11 |
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