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| chartreuse | Just noticed one thing in the current reform-standby script that causes some weird issues, WIFI=wlp1s0, while the default system image uses the traditional names like "wlan0" for the wifi. So it suspends without disconnecting the wifi | 01:23 |
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| chartreuse | Which results in oddly the keyboard not working when the script tries to resume, everything seems to come back but the script is still frozen and the keyboard doesn't work | 01:23 |
| chartreuse | Not the actual suspend issue though as changing that makes it suspend correctly again, but sometimes it won't wake | 01:24 |
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| mntmn | chartreuse: yeah i think the wake problem will need a ton of kernel printk()s to debug | 08:28 |
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| vkoskiv | technomancy: Your review was what introduced me to mnt, and I'm having serious trouble not clicking that order button | 09:41 |
| chartreuse | (Do it) | 09:41 |
| vkoskiv | Oooh, but muh financial responsibility | 09:42 |
| chartreuse | I really need to write my own review as well. Need to write more in general | 09:42 |
| vkoskiv | Yeah, overall I'd just love to read more of people's longer term daily experiences | 09:42 |
| vkoskiv | From what I can gather from the few videos that exit, the chassy is really nice and solid, just like a MacBook | 09:42 |
| vkoskiv | Is that the case? | 09:43 |
| vkoskiv | Pun not intended | 09:43 |
| vkoskiv | I cannot stand laptops that have flex everywhere, especially on the display. If it flops around while in use, it's non-good. | 09:43 |
| vkoskiv | I assume that since mntmn was also probably spoiled by the build quality of MacBooks for many years, I should have nothing to worry about. | 09:44 |
| chartreuse | It's quite thick milled aluminum | 09:49 |
| chartreuse | There's no flex in the body. The bottom is a thick piece of acrylic which has a bit of flex but not much. The keyboard has a little deck flex if you press hard enough, but less than most laptops | 09:50 |
| chartreuse | Could possibly add something behind the keyboard if that was too much, like a backing plate or such | 09:50 |
| chartreuse | The display is more rigid than any other laptop really. It's also milled aluminum with an aluminum front face as well. If you use two hands you can flex it, but moving it up and down doesn't | 09:51 |
| vkoskiv | Yeah, sounds similar to a MB - I *can* flex the display, but it feels solid. And doesn't flop around! | 09:52 |
| chartreuse | The hinges aren't perfectly. If you flick the top of the display it'll wobble a little, but otherwise very rigid but smooth | 09:53 |
| chartreuse | Just uploading a quick video of it | 10:01 |
| vkoskiv | Oh, thank you! | 10:02 |
| chartreuse | vkoskiv, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVHb0spoDf8 | 10:05 |
| chartreuse | Just a quick handheld cellphone footage. Nothing scientific | 10:06 |
| vkoskiv | Thanks, yeah, that looks good | 10:07 |
| chartreuse | Not being gentle at all with it :P | 10:08 |
| chartreuse | Not quite to the level of my old CF-30 toughbook, but still really good | 10:08 |
| vkoskiv | Yeah, I was about to say. | 10:08 |
| vkoskiv | That satisfying click when it closes is nice | 10:08 |
| vkoskiv | Is the keyboard backlit? I vaguely remember that the keys are translucent? | 10:09 |
| chartreuse | It's got magnets on the front edge to hold it closed | 10:09 |
| chartreuse | Yes it's backlit, I just had the machine off for the video | 10:09 |
| vkoskiv | Very nice. And the mouse buttons too if I recall? | 10:09 |
| chartreuse | They can be, but as it's set up they only briefly flash on during powerup | 10:09 |
| chartreuse | The trackball firmware would need to be changed if you want them on during use | 10:10 |
| vkoskiv | Controlled by open source firmware. Man, I love the idea of just recompiling that stuff and flashing it on there | 10:10 |
| chartreuse | I've already done that a bit with mine, and also 3d printed a new trackball cup that uses ball bearings to support the ball rather than it riding on the plastic | 10:10 |
| vkoskiv | Can you actually flash the different components with the machine assembled or do you have to hook up a jtag or something with the part taken out? | 10:10 |
| vkoskiv | Yeah I think I saw your post on the forum about that | 10:11 |
| chartreuse | The keyboard and trackball can be flashed simply by pressing a programming button on them and then being flashed from on the system itself | 10:11 |
| vkoskiv | I wanted to make an account to point out that some computers back in the day used synthetic ruby bearings, which are better for that purpose | 10:11 |
| chartreuse | Yeah but they're more expensive :P | 10:11 |
| chartreuse | I forgot who but someone on here ordered some ruby bearings to use | 10:12 |
| vkoskiv | I kind of like the idea of ruby bearings and a steel ball for the mouse | 10:12 |
| vkoskiv | How is the ball retained in there? It looks very open on the sides | 10:12 |
| vkoskiv | My old PowerBooks have little retainer rings around that one can twist off | 10:12 |
| chartreuse | My Logitech trackball uses tiny ruby bearings | 10:12 |
| chartreuse | There's a black ring around the top (you can maybe see it in contrast to my blue printed cup | 10:13 |
| vkoskiv | Mechanical watches also use tiny ruby bearings. I think the advantage is just that they last very long without developing flat spots | 10:13 |
| chartreuse | It's held on by two screws at the front and a lip under the aluminum at the back | 10:13 |
| vkoskiv | Ah, I see it now. | 10:13 |
| chartreuse | The other guy in my forum post tried it with a steel ball but the sensor wasn't being happy with it. Might be possible tweaking the sensor settings, or lightly sanding the ball so it's got a less glossy finish | 10:14 |
| vkoskiv | The port covers are sheets of some kind of polymer, right? | 10:14 |
| chartreuse | The port cover is some kind of black plastic, probably acrylic as well. It's not the strongest part | 10:14 |
| chartreuse | Though you could get ones cut out of aluminum or steel | 10:14 |
| vkoskiv | If I ever learn how to do CNC at the local hacklab, would be a fun project to mill some solid covers there | 10:14 |
| chartreuse | If they have a laser cutter you could probably do it out of thin aluminum stock | 10:15 |
| vkoskiv | I want a laptop I can mod! | 10:15 |
| chartreuse | Technically you could mod any of them. Just makes it easier having schematics and sources | 10:16 |
| vkoskiv | My macbook is just a monolith. A slab. No touching! | 10:16 |
| chartreuse | Like the one PCB mod I've done so far is changing the audio caps | 10:16 |
| chartreuse | Really easy to figure out what needs changing when you can just pull up the schematic | 10:16 |
| vkoskiv | Very cool. I've been a ham for 10 years, but I still know barely the basics of electronics | 10:17 |
| vkoskiv | Which is to say, I need to study more! | 10:19 |
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| vkoskiv | Are there any reform-comptible wifi+bluetooth modules with mainline linux drivers? | 12:12 |
| vkoskiv | I have to assume it's a rather standard slot | 12:12 |
| mntmn | i think not bluetooth because that is as far as i know always connected to USB signals which our mPCIe slot does not have | 12:25 |
| mntmn | maybe there is some oddball card that has bluetooth connected to PCIe as well | 12:25 |
| vkoskiv | Interesting. I can of course just stick a USB bt dongle in there and call it a day :D | 12:27 |
| vkoskiv | fyi: the source.mnt.re URL in the motd just directs to a log-in page | 12:28 |
| mntmn | yeah that's what i do (if i want to use bluetooth headphones) | 12:28 |
| mntmn | vkoskiv: hmm thanks, i guess a better URL is source.mnt.re/reform | 12:29 |
| vkoskiv | Is the preinstalled chromium un-googled? :D | 12:29 |
| vkoskiv | Even better would be: source.mnt.re/form :D | 12:29 |
| mntmn | vkoskiv: it's the one that debian ships, semi-ungoogled but still has some google parts i guess | 12:29 |
| mntmn | i personally use an even more googled one because it is faster... | 12:30 |
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