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| chartreuse | I don't personally play minetest (just don't really enjoy its feel compared with minecraft, and haven't been playing that much either recently), but I could give it a try if you want | 02:46 |
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| chartreuse | Are you still waiting on your MNT Reform? | 02:47 |
| erlehmann | chartreuse, i have not set it up | 03:00 |
| khm | is there a magic spell beyond 'screen /dev/ttyUSB0' to get early-boot console output | 03:03 |
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| + freakazoid343 (~matt@2603:9000:cf0f:80e3:c410:6378:df6d:cdc7) | 03:13 | |
| chartreuse | erlehmann, just finished compiling minetest from the github source, and the issue I'm seeing right away is I'm seeing my own face infront of me | 03:26 |
| erlehmann | chartreuse yay | 03:28 |
| chartreuse | Transparent leaves look fine. | 03:29 |
| chartreuse | Besides the seeing the inside of my own face in first person mode is there any other bugs I can check for? | 03:29 |
| chartreuse | Getting 8-10fps full screen with default settings | 03:29 |
| chartreuse | Shortening the range quite a bit I can get it up to 15-20 depending on the range. 35 with unreasonably close fog | 03:31 |
| chartreuse | Turning off smooth lighting, 3d clouds, and shader support I get around the same fps | 03:33 |
| chartreuse | Surprisingly dropping the window size down doesn't affect FPS, nor does going fully full screen | 03:34 |
| chartreuse | Swapped over to the one included with Reform, and getting basically the same performance but not seeing the inside of my face | 03:38 |
| chartreuse | Maybe slightly better but that's likely because the biome I spawned this time was different even with the same seed | 03:38 |
| chartreuse | Definitely playable though | 03:39 |
| khm | ah, got it. now to figure out how the hell u-boot works. | 03:42 |
| chartreuse | khm what did you do to get the early boot messages? Just have a serial terminal on another PC? | 03:44 |
| chartreuse | Forgot how crazy caves are in minetest, just followed one down from the surface down to -260 | 03:45 |
| khm | chartreuse: yes, at first I had TX and RX swapped, so I got some trash. 'screen /dev/ttyUSB0 115200 8N1' got me a serial console once I had the wires uncrossed | 03:48 |
| khm | the result looks like this http://okturing.com/src/12062/body | 03:48 |
| sbates | there's no way to see u-boot output without connecting a separate serial device, is that right? | 03:48 |
| chartreuse | 8N1 in that shouldn't be needed, that's the default | 03:49 |
| chartreuse | The screen isn't yet initialized so not really | 03:49 |
| khm | chartreuse: I never trust GNU software to do the right thing. | 03:49 |
| chartreuse | Though bluerise is working on that IIRC | 03:49 |
| khm | sbates: so far, no. a couple people have worked toward getting u-boot output on the inbuilt screen, but haven't got there yet. | 03:49 |
| chartreuse | You could use minicom instead of screen if you like | 03:49 |
| chartreuse | It's a more proper serial terminal emulator | 03:50 |
| sbates | I think my USB to serial adapter might be in my desk in work which I haven't been to in like a year and a half | 03:50 |
| chartreuse | It needs to be a USB to ttl serial adapter and not a 9 pin one | 03:50 |
| chartreuse | The reform uses 3.3v TTL serial on those pins rather than RS232's +/- 12v | 03:50 |
| khm | my ttl-usb converter was too slow so I ordered some cable off adafruit | 03:50 |
| sbates | I have a little Adafruit FTDI board | 03:51 |
| chartreuse | Yeah the adafruit one is very suitable for this as it has individual female dupont connects already | 03:51 |
| khm | I love that u-boot tells you how many bytes it read, but not, say, which file it was reading | 03:51 |
| chartreuse | The FTDI boards work just fine as well, just need a female to female dupont cable | 03:51 |
| erlehmann | <chartreuse> Besides the seeing the inside of my own face in first person mode is there any other bugs I can check for? | 03:54 |
| erlehmann | <chartreuse> Getting 8-10fps full screen with default settings | 03:54 |
| erlehmann | chartreuse that sounds unreasonably low, i have 27fps on a thinkpad T60 | 03:54 |
| erlehmann | chartreuse can you bisect the “seeing the inside of my face” issue maybe? that is unusual, they might have broken the renderer | 03:55 |
| chartreuse | 8-10 was at full view distance with default settings like 3d clouds and smooth lighting | 03:57 |
| erlehmann | what is full view distance? | 03:57 |
| khm | erlehmann: is that unexpected? I get something like 5x the flops from a c2d chip than I do from a coretex a53 | 03:57 |
| erlehmann | do you have shaders turned on? | 03:57 |
| sbates | oh, I think I might have a Bus Pirate somewhere, which I think should also provide UART over USB | 03:57 |
| chartreuse | I had them on at first (but none enabled) but turning them off made no difference | 03:57 |
| erlehmann | khm having 10fps for minetest is absurdly slow | 03:57 |
| chartreuse | I'm getting 11fps with view range: all in some mountainous terrain | 03:59 |
| chartreuse | Droping to 150 gives 12, and down to 80 gives 17 | 03:59 |
| chartreuse | This is with shaders off, smooth lighting off, particles on, 3d clouds off, opaque water off, connected glass off, "node outlining", fancy leaves, no texture filtering or mipmaps and no AA | 04:00 |
| chartreuse | Making water opaque and turning off node outlining doesn't really gain any | 04:01 |
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| chartreuse | CPU usage standing still and spinning around is around 105-110% | 04:02 |
| erlehmann | chartreuse that sounds bad, maybe you can ask in #minetest if you are interested why it is the case | 04:02 |
| erlehmann | lol | 04:02 |
| chartreuse | Eh, I don't personally care all too much. I don't play it | 04:03 |
| erlehmann | ah ok | 04:03 |
| chartreuse | What do people normally get on a raspberry pi 3? | 04:03 |
| erlehmann | can you post an issue about the inside of your face on github? | 04:03 |
| erlehmann | no idea, but it is playable | 04:04 |
| chartreuse | I suspect these framerates are normal for mobile gpus like these | 04:04 |
| erlehmann | i doubt it | 04:04 |
| erlehmann | i am writing you from a thinkpad t60 | 04:04 |
| chartreuse | https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=17187 | 04:04 |
| erlehmann | it has opengl 1.4 | 04:04 |
| sbates | for connecting to the serial output, is it the 3 pins beside the battery connectors? | 04:05 |
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| sbates | sorry, serial console | 04:06 |
| chartreuse | Funny enough turning on all the shaders, smooth lighting and mipmaps/aniso filtering only drops performance by 2 or so fps | 04:12 |
| chartreuse | Though it feels a bit worse, probably higher jitter | 04:12 |
| chartreuse | Could actually be cpu limited in some ways as it is showing over 100% on the main application and if all of that is in one thread it could be the bottleneck | 04:14 |
| erlehmann | chartreuse, hmm are you using sotware rendering?? | 04:14 |
| chartreuse | opengl | 04:14 |
| erlehmann | llvmpipe or so | 04:14 |
| erlehmann | hmmm | 04:14 |
| erlehmann | you can switch to ogles i think | 04:14 |
| erlehmann | that might work | 04:14 |
| chartreuse | One sec I'm lagging out trying to close it after going ham and turning 8x AA and full shadows on XD | 04:15 |
| erlehmann | shadows are broken | 04:17 |
| erlehmann | they make low fps and break rendering | 04:17 |
| chartreuse | ogles gives an invalid video driver and just changes to opengl | 04:18 |
| chartreuse | With software rendering I'm getting 14 fps in a field with view range 80. OpenGL in the same position I'm getting 14, though I think the shader effects (animated grass may have been force disabled in software) | 04:20 |
| chartreuse | Turning shaders ofgf in the same place, opengl gets 19fps | 04:21 |
| chartreuse | If I look at the ground I get up to 32 | 04:21 |
| chartreuse | I think this is just the performance of an A53 with etnaviv graphics | 04:22 |
| chartreuse | A T60 with a T2500 will outperform this CPU and the ATIX1400 with 128MB of ram should also be more powerful | 04:25 |
| chartreuse | The only direct comparison benchmark I'm finding is a BCM2837 (1.4GHz 4x A53) vs an E8400 Core2Duo, so lets calculate based on that | 04:27 |
| chartreuse | In multicore the E8400 gets 3124 vs the Pi's 1218, adn 2106 vs 489 single core. In Geekbench 4 | 04:27 |
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| chartreuse | The reform is at 1.5GHz, so we can add 8% or so ontop those extra | 04:28 |
| chartreuse | I can find geekbench 4 results for a T2500, it gives 1714 multicore or 1046 single core | 04:31 |
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| khm | sbates: yes | 04:32 |
| khm | I'm using J18 | 04:32 |
| chartreuse | If we add 10% to the pi3's scores there to account for the clock speed difference we get 1340 and 5376, still quite dominated by the T5200 | 04:33 |
| chartreuse | Other A53 quad cores I can find on geekbench's site is an Allwinner one at 1.46GHz, which is 1424/543 so I'd say the numbers are about right still | 04:34 |
| sbates | khm: thank you, I see J18 | 04:35 |
| chartreuse | s/5376/537/ | 04:35 |
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| + Slime19 (~Slime@c-71-206-135-127.hsd1.va.comcast.net) | 04:39 | |
| + freakazoid343 (~matt@2603-9000-cf0f-80e3-d8e1-9267-d4e3-a072.inf6.spectrum.com) | 04:39 | |
| Slime19 | Hello all, I just picked up this module to experiment with once the Reform arrives: https://www.iwavesystems.com/product/i-mx-8-qm-qp-smarc-som/ | 04:39 |
| erlehmann | chartreuse, how can a thinkpad T60 with intel onboard graphics from 2012 outperform reform | 04:40 |
| erlehmann | chartreuse, ogles2 is the video driver i think | 04:40 |
| khm | because it has a much faster processor with out-of-order execution | 04:40 |
| Slime19 | It has MIPI DSI output to the SODIMM connector, I am just now wondering if this will be in any way compatible with the board/system controller in the reform, or if the board only supports the 30 pin ribbon which this module does not have | 04:41 |
| erlehmann | what is a T2500? | 04:41 |
| khm | an intel core 2 duo processor | 04:42 |
| chartreuse | Because the reform is an embedded arm processor | 04:42 |
| erlehmann | ah | 04:42 |
| chartreuse | The T2500 is the processor in the T60 | 04:42 |
| chartreuse | Even though it's a dual core its singlethreaded and multicore performance still tops the Reform | 04:43 |
| khm | T60 was available with either Yonah or Merom processors | 04:43 |
| chartreuse | I went with a 2GHz Yonah which is the first number I saw for it | 04:43 |
| khm | sorry erlehmann a T2500 is a Core Duo processor | 04:43 |
| erlehmann | ok | 04:44 |
| chartreuse | I can go to the top of the line option for it which was a T7600 Merom | 04:44 |
| chartreuse | That'll just increase the difference even more | 04:44 |
| erlehmann | i have core duo | 04:44 |
| khm | chartreuse: I'm saying not only is the T60 faster even with the Core Duo, erlehmann might have a C2D chip, in which case it's going to be even faster | 04:44 |
| erlehmann | model name: Intel(R) Core(TM) Duo CPU T2400 @ 1.83GHz | 04:44 |
| khm | ah ok | 04:44 |
| chartreuse | Okay so slightly slower than the 2GHz T2400 I selected, but still going to be faster than the reform | 04:45 |
| chartreuse | I'm seeing average geekbench 4 scores of 1690 multicore and 989 single core for that | 04:45 |
| khm | either way, that processor has a lot more horsepower than the ARM chip in the Reform, and keeping VRAM full is easier with out-of-order execution | 04:45 |
| chartreuse | And if we go up to a full T7600 that seems to vary a bit, but I'mn seeing ~2300 and ~1360 for that | 04:46 |
| chartreuse | So your T2400 T60 is around 26% faster in multithreaded workloads, and ~84% faster in single threaded | 04:48 |
| chartreuse | But this is the power of a 35W TDP x86 cpu vs a <4W in-order ARM CPU | 04:49 |
| chartreuse | It's really all due to a lack of power in many ARM designs, since they're designed for phone/router/appliance use. And even more limited as we need one with open hardware documentation | 04:50 |
| khm | Ah, the one I pulled testing from was a T8100. I was using DGEMM benchmarking from the top500 test suite when I came up with the 5x number | 04:50 |
| chartreuse | Yeah it's going to depend on the benchmarks, but it's probably going to be in the range of 20-100% difference still | 04:54 |
| khm | DGEMM obviously doesn't touch video output, it's more of an i/o and math test | 04:55 |
| chartreuse | If you want a real comparison on "modern" processors in Geekbench for, a 4 core i7-7820HQ iin a 2017 macbook pro gets 15331 multicore and 4331 single core | 04:55 |
| chartreuse | I just used geekbench as it was the first number I found for a Pi 3 that I could compare against other processors yet | 04:56 |
| chartreuse | Doesn't say anything about the GPU either | 04:56 |
| chartreuse | But I suspect even the Intel onboard is going to be faster than the Vivante | 04:56 |
| khm | yep, I agree | 04:56 |
| khm | not to mention the software stack is going to have years more optimization for x86 and intel video | 04:57 |
| khm | basically the hardware is faster AND the deck is stacked | 04:57 |
| chartreuse | I'd love for there to be on open ARM processor with the power of Apple's M1 soon | 04:57 |
| chartreuse | Or really any architecture really | 04:57 |
| chartreuse | RISC-V, or even a low power open x86 | 04:58 |
| khm | my desktop is rapidly approaching ten years old, but it's hard to justify upgrading it | 04:58 |
| chartreuse | My desktop is 2017 (AMD Ryzen 1700), and I only upgraded from a Core2Duo E8500 to that. Mainly because I was gaming a fair bit and it was struggling, and I just got a job | 04:59 |
| chartreuse | My laptop is a x230 and that still does basically every other task just fine with a 35W 3rd gen i5 | 05:00 |
| khm | mine's a dual E5-263v2 with 128GB of ram. it's where I do "work" that doesn't fit on my T450s | 05:00 |
| chartreuse | The Reform is definitely a downgrade in performance, but not terrible. It can be worked around | 05:00 |
| khm | I intend for the Reform to be my main computer, except I don't understand the boot chain so I can't get 9front running on it yet | 05:01 |
| chartreuse | I tried plan 9 for a little bit, but couldn't really get into it. it's not really for me | 05:02 |
| khm | probably a sign of being profoundly well adjusted | 05:02 |
| khm | I won't hold it against you | 05:02 |
| chartreuse | Should be possible though, there's plan9 for the raspberry pi 3b | 05:02 |
| chartreuse | The boot process is going to be very roughly similar | 05:03 |
| khm | we've got it running on all of em actually | 05:03 |
| chartreuse | Right now it loads a linux kernel and dtb's off the sd card, then boots than | 05:03 |
| chartreuse | https://9p.io/magic/man2html/8/booting This mentions a pi uboot image | 05:04 |
| khm | yeah that's richard miller's port | 05:05 |
| khm | I have that code somewhere | 05:05 |
| chartreuse | Right now the uboot configuration on the reform is "compiled in" but it can be changed and flashed | 05:05 |
| chartreuse | You could enter the uboot console with the serial cable and try and manually boot a plan 9 pi image or such | 05:06 |
| khm | yeah, getting to the u-boot console will be my next trick, which I will attempt tomorrow | 05:06 |
| chartreuse | https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-boundary-uboot | 05:06 |
| chartreuse | I imagine you're going to need the serial console until you get a framebuffer driver working as well | 05:06 |
| khm | well | 05:07 |
| khm | rather get networking up first | 05:07 |
| khm | I can always rcpu into the laptop to get a remote gui once I have networking up | 05:07 |
| khm | that'll make the rest of the development much simpler | 05:08 |
| khm | boot -> wifi card support -> video -> sound is my plan of attack | 05:08 |
| sbates | being able to read along with conversations like this makes me super excited about the Reform. It's so refreshing to have a computer that is designed to be so open and hackable | 05:12 |
| sbates | I found my Bus Pirate and I think I'm going to try to connect to the serial console tomorrow | 05:13 |
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| sbates | I run Linux on my main desktop but I run an Ubuntu LTS and I boot straight into X. I hardly ever see the console and it's been years since I compiled a kernel. I feel very far away from the hardware. | 05:26 |
| sbates | With Reform I'm looking forward to getting back in touch with the hardware and lower level OS parts that I feel out of touch with. And to having a computer again that I can understand. | 05:27 |
| Slime19 | I hope to get my nixos config working once mine comes in | 06:03 |
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| ex-parrot | I need to try and get something graphical going in LFS next 😂 | 06:58 |
| ex-parrot | and for some reason shutting down doesn’t kill power | 06:58 |
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| mntmn | Slime19: that's an interesting module that i was also recently looking at, though totally incompatible with the current motherboard. would need a partial redesign. | 09:29 |
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| Lewis[m] | heh, schade, the (size M) MNT hoodies went out of stock before the laptops came into stock. There goes my matching my hoodie to my laptop plan | 17:15 |
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| doppler | Lewis[m]: substitute Reform hoodie: https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41JiC3tJxWL.jpg | 18:16 |
| Lewis[m] | :P | 18:18 |
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| technomancy | "If the power management section is grayed out in the xscreensaver-demo(1) window, then that means that your X server does not support the XDPMS extension" <- any idea how to get that working on the reform with Xwayland? | 19:13 |
| technomancy | or like ... brightnessctl works fine; I just need a way to automatically trigger an arbitrary shell command after N minutes of idle I guess | 19:13 |
| technomancy | I guess a crontab which calls xprintidle? | 19:23 |
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| khm | technomancy: swayidle does this for wayland. you can also set logind's IdleAction to 'lock' -- xscreensaver can't properly detect idleness inside wayland. | 22:35 |
| khm | swayidle is probably the simplest approach here | 22:35 |
| technomancy | swayidle works without sway? | 22:36 |
| khm | yes, just pass it whatever command you want it to run instead of e.g. swaylock | 22:37 |
| technomancy | hm; ok. will try that; thanks | 22:38 |
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