2021-08-06.log

technomancyI think you still have to build from source for that00:08
mntmndarth-cheney: i personally use nativecomp00:10
mntmndarth-cheney: but the included one doesn't have it because that's just the one from debian00:10
mntmnafaik00:10
darth-cheneytechnomancy: yeah sounds right. If i can get guix installed as a package manager there's a def for nativecomp00:10
darth-cheneyI'll try it later tonight or tomorrow, though I imagine it will take forever00:11
mntmnnaja takes maybe half an hour or so00:12
bluerisehm00:37
bluerise486MHz00:37
bluerisemntmn: do I need to supply that?00:37
mntmnunsure without a clktree dump in front of me ^^00:44
bluerisewell, you can show me one ;)00:49
mntmnbluerise: here you go http://dump.mntmn.com/clk_summary.txt01:01
bluerisethanks!01:01
mntmnquite a bunch of dsi clocks01:02
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bluerisewith the hdmi dts, panel is using lcdif, mntmn?01:45
mntmnbluerise: yep01:46
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chartreuseJust built up my Reform kit that arrived today and chatting from it05:40
chartreuseNow if only I could stop hitting Alt instead of spacebar05:40
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darth-cheneymntmn: when you built emacs native comp how long did it take?13:15
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mntmndarth-cheney: idk 30, 45 minutes?!13:22
darth-cheneydamn something weird must be going on here then...13:22
mntmndarth-cheney: i built a version that also is wayland native (pgtk), but should be similar13:22
mntmndarth-cheney: what's wrong?13:22
mntmndarth-cheney: maybe i remember the time wrong ^^13:23
mntmni remember the build got messed up once and i had to do some mega-clean13:23
darth-cheneywell it was late last night and I didn't want to wait around so I left it overnight and it's still going13:23
darth-cheneythat's about 7 hours ago13:23
darth-cheneyI'm using guix to do this, has worked on my other machines but maybe that was a mistake. I'm worried about running the cpu at max for so long13:24
mntmndarth-cheney: oh yeah that's a guix problem then. it will probably need to build the world first13:25
mntmndarth-cheney: i built emacs directly.13:25
mntmndarth-cheney: you can max the cpu for however long you like, as long as it's not going over 90 degrees, then it will turn off13:25
darth-cheneymntmn: yeah that can happen, though I'm using "substitutes" from their server farm which download prebuilt binaries for a lot of dependencies13:26
mntmndarth-cheney: but do they have enough of those for arm64?13:26
darth-cheneyaha, good point13:26
mntmndarth-cheney: building emacs directly from source is not super painful. you just need a few dependencies. maybe debian can help you with that13:26
mntmndarth-cheney: something like apt-get build-dep emacs13:27
darth-cheneymntmn: I'm gonna let this run for just a bit longer and if it doesn't finish I'll just build it myself. 13:28
mntmnsure!13:29
darth-cheneywhile you're here I'm also having an issue with he usb ports and my main thumbdrive13:36
darth-cheneyI guess the drive uses some high speed format that I don't know anythng about, but it refuses to connect13:37
darth-cheneyhere is the output from dmesg: https://pastebin.com/r3XHu7sW13:39
mntmn> Kingston DataTraveler 3.013:41
mntmni think i have the same one here13:42
mntmndoes it work on another usb port?13:42
darth-cheneyno I tried them all on the reform13:42
mntmnhuh that is super weird13:42
mntmnbecause 1 of the 3 ports is very different13:42
darth-cheney(it's like silver, metal, and goes on a keychain)13:43
mntmndo you have wifi enabled?13:43
darth-cheneyyes, wifi is enabled13:43
mntmncan you try disabling wifi for a moment?13:43
mntmnmaybe your antenna is too close to the usb lines and interfering13:43
darth-cheneyhuh, that did the trick. I can now see it in fdisk when using middle usb port13:47
mntmnok, so it's EMI from the wifi antenna13:48
darth-cheneymaybe I installed incorrectly?13:53
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darth-cheneyHere's my setup: https://imgur.com/a/rH4tiJB13:53
mntmndarth-cheney: you can try taping those silvery solder points on the antenna (to isolate them) and turn it around so that the antenna faces in the other direction...14:05
darth-cheneymntmn: you mean flip the plexiglass thing upside down?14:06
mntmndarth-cheney: yeah. just an idea14:07
darth-cheneyI'll give that a shot for sure14:07
darth-cheneywhat a catch dude, you must have been burned by something like this before14:09
mntmnyes14:09
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blast007darth-cheney: Intel has a document titled "USB 3.0* Radio Frequency Interference on 2.4 GHz Devices" if you're curious14:44
darth-cheneyblast007: cool, thanks14:50
darth-cheneyI don't know a lot about usb but it seems like it's...fun...14:50
darth-cheneyhow does rofi know where to look for applications? 15:30
darth-cheneyI'm used to the .desktop format from ubuntu etc15:30
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blueriseSigh15:53
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mntmnbluerise: what's up15:55
mntmndarth-cheney: rofi has two modes, the default one indeed looks for .desktop files15:55
mntmndarth-cheney: i mean the one from my default binding15:55
mntmndarth-cheney: there's also a mode that will list basically every executable in the path15:55
mntmndarth-cheney: man rofi might help?15:56
darth-cheneyok cool, yeah the man page didn't mention desktop files and google was failing me15:56
mntmnoh ok15:56
bluerisemntmn: looking at fractional clock bla code15:58
bluerisemy pll setup doesn't get to 59415:58
blueriseand I wonder what I'm doing wrong15:58
blueriseand math isn't my strong suit15:58
mntmnbluerise: the person in the community managed to get everything running from only using u-boot stuff... maybe there's an answer there?15:59
mntmnnot everything, i meant color bars16:00
bluerise(((5000000 * 8 * 11744051) / 2^24) / 2) + ((5000000 * 8 * 29) / 2)16:19
bluerise593999999y16:19
blueriseAHA!16:19
bluerisegotta save that16:19
bluerisenow I gotta check where my bug is16:19
blueriseI think some C multiplication fu is wrong16:19
bluerise<316:19
mntmn:O16:20
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technomancyI've been compiling emacs for nearly an hour and my core temp is still at 45℃22:51
technomancywhat sorcery is this22:51
mntmnhmm that's good22:53
mntmndid you do make -j4?22:53
mntmnor only 1 job?22:53
technomancyjust regular make; I didn't want the machine to become unusable while the compilation happened =)22:54
technomancyalso this is native compilation emacs so it's much, much slower to compile than regular emacs22:56
mntmnok so if you use only 1 core that won't affect the cpu temp, true.23:13
technomancyI feel like compiling on a single core still heats up my thinkpad significantly23:13
technomancybut my thinkpad only has 2 cores and its heat sink is nowhere near as majestic as the reform's =)23:16
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