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| Guest13 | I really want a reform, but I need to be able to run VMs for work. Are there plans on increasing the amount of RAM and cpu cores in future models? | 00:06 |
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| Guest13 | Correct me if I am wrong, but the reform only supports 4GB of RAM. I really need 32 GB. I even run out of that sometimes. | 00:06 |
| technomancy | there's talk about a higher ram limit in the future but I dunno if it'd go all the way to 32GB | 00:07 |
| technomancy | I've been running my VMs remotely over SSH on my work machine for years; works great if you don't need a gui | 00:07 |
| Guest13 | If that is not really the market that reform is targeting, does anyone know of alternative open spec, hackable laptops that support at least 16 GB of RAM? | 00:07 |
| Guest13 | technomancy: I often find myself working from remote locations with poor internet. It would be nice to pack the compute power with me, but I want this laptop so badly I am considering getting one anyway :- | 00:09 |
| alex4nder | what VMs do you need to run? | 00:09 |
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| jackhill | Guest13: sounds like you'd be interested in the Layerscape LS1028A module: https://source.mnt.re/reform/mnt-reform-layerscape-ls1028a-som | 00:25 |
| Guest13 | I have a couple of windows 10 VMS I often need to run and about 30 docker containers hosting microservices, databases, etc etc. Pluse, I need to run a couple of different IDEs and multiple browsers. | 00:34 |
| Guest13 | jackhill, that Layerscape is really awsome! | 00:36 |
| Guest13 | I am guessing that the laptop would only have room for a single layerscape module (not two 16GB modules) | 00:37 |
| technomancy | it's also well over a year from being in production IIRC | 00:37 |
| Guest13 | Ahh, that is a bit of a setback :-P | 00:40 |
| alex4nder | that type of workload might give you pain, running on this class of processor | 00:44 |
| Guest13 | It would. I am considering building a pine64 clusterboard for my virtualization needs and finding another solution for when I am remote. But a reform laptop with a cluster for docker containers and vms might work 80% of the time. | 00:46 |
| technomancy | pine64 clusterboard that fits in a backpack =) | 00:47 |
| Guest13 | Maybe I will just have to get a reform laptop for fun and have another system for work. | 00:47 |
| Guest13 | He hee, that would be awsome. | 00:48 |
| technomancy | for me I can't avoid having multiple machines for compliance reasons | 00:48 |
| technomancy | work requires their codebase to be only checked out on a machine that has remote-wipe spyware on it | 00:48 |
| Guest13 | Interesting. | 00:48 |
| technomancy | for some reason they haven't ported this to arm64 yet =) | 00:48 |
| technomancy | (not that I would install it on my personal machine if they had) | 00:48 |
| Guest13 | Augh, that stinks. Yah! I hate corporate owned machines. They are always full of spyware. I prefer to be totally freelance with my own hardware. I know you don't always have a choice though. | 00:49 |
| Guest13 | How often does the reform ship? | 00:50 |
| technomancy | at least they let me write lisp code at work; can't complain too much | 00:50 |
| khm | technomancy: same here, work is done on a laptop with a full-time VPN back to the mothership, not-work is a different, personally-owned machine | 00:51 |
| khm | it's simpler that way, I find | 00:51 |
| technomancy | khm: yeah I still do all my work from my personal machine; it's just done over SSH | 00:51 |
| khm | I work for the government so I think in my case doing that might literally be a crime? I'll never know, not worth finding out tbqh | 00:53 |
| technomancy | lol | 00:53 |
| technomancy | SSH is secret hacker ware!! | 00:53 |
| technomancy | meanwhile VPNs are SSH for suits | 00:54 |
| khm | of course we use ssh all the time; I meant deliberately defying the security policies | 00:54 |
| technomancy | what do you mean deliberately defying the security policies? | 00:55 |
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| khm | like, we're required to do our work on govt-owned and govt-provisioned computers, connected to the lab vpn, with all their spyware enabled. I think deliberately bypassing some or all of these things by using a personal machine and so forth is A Problem | 00:56 |
| technomancy | I'm just talking about using the personal machine as a dumb terminal | 00:57 |
| technomancy | it doesn't actually contain any of the sensitive data | 00:57 |
| khm | yeah, our policies are written more around what would be possible | 00:57 |
| khm | like sure, you or I could operate that way, with nothing landing on the local termial, but someone less knowledgeable might screw that up, so it's verboten | 00:58 |
| technomancy | ah so the fact that you could connect over SSH means that you could also copy all the source to your personal machine | 00:58 |
| khm | etc | 00:58 |
| khm | right | 00:58 |
| technomancy | shame to have a lack of trust like that | 00:58 |
| khm | it's extra dumb because I work in an open science lab, with no sensitive information, and a legal mandate to make our data public! | 00:58 |
| technomancy | >_< | 00:59 |
| khm | :) | 00:59 |
| Guest13 | Bureaucracy always seems to lead to logical fallacy or absurdity :-( | 01:12 |
| khm | the stuff I do generally doesn't exist without many layers of protective red tape wrapped around it, you get used to navigating it | 01:19 |
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| Guest13 | If I ordered a reform, approximately how long does it take to ship to Canada? | 01:57 |
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| lastebil | mntmn: my slow attempts to get this new image compiled are... um. yes. slow ): | 15:10 |
| lastebil | I've hit a very odd issue where it does not wish to clone u-boot: "unable to update url base from redirection" - which I'm sort of taking as a git or gitlab issue, not the build script... | 15:12 |
| lastebil | has anyone else reported this? | 15:12 |
| mntmn | oh yeah, script pointing to the wrong/old URL, sorry for this. switch to sysimage-v2 branch pleaes | 15:14 |
| lastebil | right (: | 15:14 |
| lastebil | run cleanup first? | 15:14 |
| mntmn | no idea! | 15:14 |
| lastebil | ok! (: I'll do that anyway, no harm if it breaks something (: | 15:14 |
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| mntmn | https://genodians.org/skalk/2021-08-02-mnt-reform2-sdcard | 20:19 |
| mjw | mntmn, I'll promise to only nag once a month, I know you are working as hard and fast as you can, but... any word on when the keyboards might be shipping? And I have another US Crowd Supply reform order outstanding from March, any idea when that might ship? | 21:04 |
| mntmn | mjw: keyboard cases are now in production and our ETA is end of august! | 21:04 |
| mjw | cool, then I won't nag again :) | 21:05 |
| mjw | mntmn, but I will keep nagging about the reform order, even though I know you don't have insight into the crowd supply orders. I so want to share that mnt reform feeling with my friend. Get it to him, please! :) | 21:14 |
| mjw | ACTION will stop now and see where we are next month :) | 21:15 |
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