2021-06-10.log

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ex-parrotHmm I got a DHL shipping notification from Crowd Supply but it’s coming from the US so I assume it’s something else :P05:09
* jackhill_ -> jackhill05:19
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ephasehi11:58
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flowyephase: howdy12:00
ephaseflowy: \o.12:01
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+ rasmus-mk (~rasmus@c83-253-223-217.bredband.tele2.se)13:06
mntmnex-parrot: we ship with UPS13:24
scopsmntmn: whats the difference between https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/jobs/407 and https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/jobs/409 ? should i use the artifacts for 407 or 409 (kernel/dtb)13:30
mntmnscops: the kernel and dtb are the same13:31
mntmnso it doesn't matter13:31
scopsok... i checked the md5 and it was different ;)13:31
mntmnbuild is not reproducible i guess... but you can also compare the template-kernel/kernel-config files13:36
mntmncrap, waybar takes 10+ seconds to start up in the new version14:46
- rasmus-mk (QUIT: Quit: WeeChat 3.0.1) (~rasmus@c83-253-223-217.bredband.tele2.se)14:48
mntmncould be https://github.com/swaywm/sway/wiki#gtk-applications-take-20-seconds-to-start14:52
- ephase (QUIT: Quit: WeeChat 3.1) (~ephase@185-82-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr)17:09
scopsmntmn: because of https://twitter.com/mntmn/status/1402987432451084292 is something like heads possible on the reform? have you thought about it?17:35
scopsbecause... the kernel is on the emmc or sd card and could be easily replaced to hack into the encrypted nvme for example17:37
mntmnscops: genode17:39
scopsbut its more or less a toolbox... or? nothing i can just install and use like a debian17:41
mntmnthat is correct17:42
mntmnscops: i mean, would be definitely interesting to support something like heads17:43
scopsand i thought it is more like qubes os... for running debian in a vm for example17:43
mntmnwhat's the relationship of heads and tails? ;)17:44
marexnote that the mx8mq does support HABv417:44
marexso you can sign your bootloader and that can authenticate kernel fitImage etc.17:44
mntmnoh yeah17:44
mntmnthere is a recipe for it which i never got around to trying17:44
marexwell, the bootrom authenticates the bootloader -> bootloader authenticates kernel etc17:44
mntmnhow does the bootrom's authentication work, can you save a key somewhere and burn a fuse?17:46
marexyes, you program keys into the fuses and the bootloader has to be signed by those keys17:46
marexthere are I think more key slots, so you can even invalidate some of the keys if they leak17:46
marexU-Boot seems to have doc/imx/ahab/guides/mx8_mx8x_encrypted_boot.txt documentation17:47
marexand doc/imx/habv4/guides/mx6_mx7_spl_secure_boot.txt17:47
marexof course , if you find a ROM bug in the HAB library (which did happen before ;-) ) , well ...17:48
mntmn;)17:50
mntmnok thanks for the explainer17:50
marexsure18:10
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ex-parrotmntmn: good to know :) the DHL package from CrowdSupply was Watchy in the end 21:50
ex-parrot(The eink wristwatch thing… which I don’t think I actually need…)21:50
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+ ephase (~ephase@2a01:e0a:168:1211:af13:f321:24b1:70c6)22:15
ephaseHello22:15
mntmnhi ephase 22:22
mntmnex-parrot: cool! how is it?22:23
mntmnephase: i just read your reform has problems?22:23
ephasemntmn: yes, screen stay black... :(22:23
mntmnephase: i don't understand this sentence > With the keyboard, Circle + ESC does nothing like Circle + f1/f2 for keyboard backlight.22:24
mntmnephase: can you explain in more detail what you mean?22:25
marexmntmn: circle might be the Meta key ?22:26
marexerr ... Super ... key22:26
ephasemntmn: First, when i tried to boot my reform this morning with circle + 1, nothing happen22:27
mntmnmarex: no, circle is circle22:27
mntmnmarex: it's the system controller key on reform22:27
marexoh ok22:28
ephaseI plug power adapter then batteries statistics (circle + b) was weird (some batteries had 0 v)22:28
mntmnephase: what did you expect to happen with circle + esc? that's not really a key combination that exists22:28
ephasemntmn: I reset the lpc ans leave power plugged for two hours, batteries statistics was normal (3,3v)22:29
mntmnah ok22:29
mntmnthat's good22:30
ephasemntmn: the OLED menu say ESC : exit menu22:30
mntmnephase: ah ok, and it doesn't exit?22:30
mntmnephase: the menu just stays?22:30
ephasemntmn: yes the menu just stay22:30
mntmnuh oh22:30
mntmnephase: it might be a short between the motherboard and keyboard. we recently found something that might happen22:30
mntmnephase: in that case i have to repair your keyboard22:31
mntmnephase: can you remove the batteries and send the device back to me?22:31
ephasemntmn: merde! like we say here :)22:31
mntmnyes, big merde22:31
ephaseyes of course i can, I'll do it next week22:32
mntmnephase: i will fix it and send it back for free22:32
mntmnephase: my theory is that on some motherboards, the pins of the power jack are a bit too long and can touch one key22:32
mntmnephase: now we clip them off and put isolation tape there22:32
mntmni will write an article about it now so people can do that as a safety precaution22:33
ex-parrotmntmn: still on the way, I will advise :)22:35
ephasemntmn: there is nothing I can do to fix it myself?22:36
mntmnephase: first, this, but your keyboard's MCU is probably fried now https://community.mnt.re/t/important-do-this-safety-modification/29222:40
mntmnex-parrot: ah, ok22:40
mntmnephase: if you have a hot air station etc you can of course exchange the atmega32u4 on the keyboard yourself22:41
ephasemntmn: I'm not enough skilled for that.22:42
mntmnephase: yeah, so it's better that i take a look and confirm my theory and also do the fix for you22:42
mntmnephase: sorry for this!22:42
ephasemntmn: Sorry for what? fixing my computer ^_^22:44
mntmnephase: sorry for the inconvenience22:45
mntmnoh, linus himself proposes a fix for the caam-jr regression https://marc.info/?l=linux-crypto-vger&m=162335410504771&w=222:45
ex-parrotay nice22:45
ex-parrotmntmn: if you need boards repaired for any machines that arrive in NZ in future, I'd be happy to help22:45
mntmnex-parrot: oh that's very good to know, thanks22:45
ex-parrothopefully it doesn't come up, but if it does, it might be easier than shipping back to you :322:46
mntmni hope i'll also find someone in the US (maybe one of the amiga people)22:46
mntmnex-parrot: yes, highly appreciated22:46
ex-parrot_b22:46
ephaseThere is no problem, by contributing to the crowdfunding campagn, I knew about that. And to be honest, your creation make me a better Sysadmin : I compiled a kernel for the first time, compiled uboot, make debian userlan with mmdebstrap22:48
ex-parrot\o/22:49
ex-parrotthat's so good22:49
mntmnephase: nice!! that's the spirit22:50
Asmadeusmntmn: huh why did I never get any of the replies to that thread!22:56
Asmadeusbut great, did you test?22:56
mntmnAsmadeus: oh, good that i brought it up then, and no, but maybe i should ;)22:58
mntmni'll give it a spin22:58
AsmadeusI don't see why it wouldn't work, but might as well confirm :)22:59
mntmnAsmadeus: btw, there is one more regression, don't know if you've seen it... nvme hwmon is broken and oopses anything that tries to reads from its sysfs23:00
mntmni guess i need to report that somewhere as well23:01
AsmadeusI'm ashamed to say I don't have any sensor working on that board yet, so saw your comment the other day but couldn't confirm23:02
mntmnoh k23:02
Asmadeusprobably just a couple of lines missing off dtb but just didn't get time for that so far23:02
Asmadeusah, here they are (the two mails); just took their sweet time after I turned work laptop on (it's 6am here :D)23:07
mntmnok it will need a bit of work here to switch to the version that linus is working on top off23:15
mntmnso i'll have to do that tomorrow23:15
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