2021-06-09.log

mntmn*hint hint*00:13
mntmni wonder why noone (or maybe someone did?) made a simple browser around WPE webkit, that's kind of fast too00:14
- artfwo (QUIT: Ping timeout: 245 seconds) (~artfwo@2a02:8109:8500:26d0:e18b:8241:bf45:b708)00:14
mntmnhttps://webkit.org/wpe/00:14
- wiedi (QUIT: Ping timeout: 265 seconds) (~wiedi@2a01:138:a015:15:15d3:e316:43fd:d30e)00:15
mntmnthere is the "cog" example browser for it in debian packages00:15
- ephase (QUIT: Quit: WeeChat 3.1) (~ephase@2a01:e0a:168:1211:e28f:546:9a1a:1326)00:16
mntmnAsmadeus: getting a bunch of new Oopses related to shutdown/reset, too (in 5.12), and one during boot00:28
mntmnsysfs_kf_seq_show00:29
mntmnComm is udevadm00:31
mntmnah it is sensors-related00:35
mntmn"sensors" segfaults for me in 5.1200:35
mntmnwhen reading from sysfs00:35
ex-parrotIt’s always been pretty crashy for me, for decades 00:38
mntmnok i straced it, the kernel oopses on /sy/class/hwmon/hwmon3/name00:38
mntmnlol, why the ~name~00:38
mntmnah, it's the nvme disk00:38
mntmnah, crashes on reading any sysfs file in ther00:39
mntmnthere00:39
mntmnyeah, sensors works again when disabling NVME_HWMON in the kernel config 00:47
mntmnand reboot, too, so that's the same bug00:47
blueriseheh. wouldn't have happened with OpenBSD! because it'd have other bugs00:54
mntmnlol00:54
mntmnbtw a weird trick if you want a much higher framerate in games: set the scale of the eDP output to 2 in .config/sway/config00:57
mntmnthere seems to be a resolution tipping point where the GPU gets much slower 00:58
mntmn(or much faster)00:58
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ex-parrotI am starting a new job in a couple of weeks and went to look at the current range of higher end x86 laptops for this and… boy 10:17
ex-parrotReform might be one of the easiest to buy laptops at the moment 10:18
ex-parrotHP quoted me a delivery time in November 10:18
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mickenlo11:44
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Asmadeusmntmn: no etnaviv for imx8mp, and display is sluggish without some kind of accel? (I'll admit I didn't actually try, is the hantro interface dependant on it?)12:25
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Asmadeusnm actually I did have a weston without accel at some point, it was quite horrible12:27
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mntmnAsmadeus: hantro and etnaviv are unrelated. 13:13
AsmadeusRight, but 2d accel still requires either etnaviv or vivante13:14
mntmnah yes, that's true13:24
mntmnAsmadeus: how is cpu perf of 8mp? any faster than 8mq? (it has 300mhz more, no? ;) )13:25
AsmadeusTo be fair most of our customers could probably live without 2d acceleration (we're selling a framework people can do what they want with), but it's hard to tell my boss they can't do that :)13:26
AsmadeusHaven't had a chance to try the 8mq yet, can tell you when I receive my reform!13:26
mntmnAsmadeus: would be quite interesting for me13:27
mntmnatm i consider it not worth the hassle for an upgrade13:27
AsmadeusYeah they're probably not that different.. the main sell seems to be tensorflow / "machine learning processor" accelerator but I somehow don't think reform users are avid of that :)13:35
Asmadeushttps://www.nxp.com/docs/en/supporting-information/IMX8LAYERCMPR.pdf13:35
mntmnyeah13:35
mntmnstill waiting for our LS1028A prototype ;313:36
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mntmnok first successful build of system image v2 with kernel 5.12 https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/jobs/407/artifacts/browse/reform2-imx8mq/16:20
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scops<mntmn "ok first successful build of sys"> Soooo how do i upgrade the emmc and the installation on nvme?17:07
scopsAre you going to write a howto on community.mnt.re? :)17:08
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mntircscops: no idea!18:23
mntircscops: i mean, you can already apt update && apt install reform-tools reform-handbook18:23
mntirci think18:23
mntircbut there's no upgrade mechanism for the kernel and u-boot yet18:24
mntircthat could be a script added to reform-tools, or the kernel + uboot could be delivered as a deb as well18:24
XgFmntirc: it would be cool to update the default uboot to use distroboot18:28
mntircXgF: who can do it? ;)18:28
XgFIts actually the config those of us using NixOS are using :-)18:29
scops<mntirc "that could be a script added to "> A script at least would be nice but a howto would be also fine18:36
mntircXgF: ah, you use a different u-boot config?18:37
XgFYeah, one configured to read the distroboot files18:37
mntircinteresting18:39
XgF(Since Nix already has logic to write those files for other ARM boards)18:40
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reform19944just testing the new image18:54
- reform19944 (PART: !!unknown attribute: msg!!) (~reform@p5b015e8b.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)18:54
scopshmm mntirc / mntmn i could just use the script in /boot to flash the uboot and then replace the Image and dts files... right? no dual-display / single-display anymore?18:54
mntmnscops: huh??18:54
mntmnscops: sure still those dts, you need to rename them18:55
mntmnscops: the rest is correct yes18:55
mntmnhmm. gnome doesn't seem to work anymore18:56
mntmnoh it does. just takes quite a long time18:56
scopsdual-display and single-display are the same?18:57
mntmnscops: they should not be the same. are they?18:57
scopsor is dual-display and hdmi the same?18:57
mntmnscops: dual is hdmi, the other is single18:57
scops... i ask because atm there are 3... and in the artifacts only two18:58
scopsô.o18:58
mntmnlook at reform-display-config and you'll understand18:58
scopscheck18:58
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scopsok... i hope all is going well ^^ *flashing *replacing19:01
scopsehm why there are two uboots? and dont i need to flash both?19:02
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scopsand... do i need to flash the uboot for the new kernel?19:39
scopsthere is a flash-rescue.sh...19:43
scopswhich flashes the rescue uboot19:43
scopssorry... scrolled with gomuks ^^ ignore the last two lines from me...19:44
mntmnscops: sorry i can't follow. you don't need to flash the u-boot at all19:53
mntmnscops: what is your goal?19:53
scopsyeah... i thought i should :) but all is fine (i replaced the dtb and Image on the emmc)19:55
mntmnscops: alright. the u-boot doesn't ~need~ to be updated. there's only tiny changes in it19:56
scopscheck19:57
mntmni'm currently testing the new system images, the userland has some bugs... the weirdest is that unicode symbols in the xfce4 terminal are missing, i.e. arrows and stuff19:58
mntmnso maybe some fallback font is missing19:58
flowymntmn: did you remember to fix the compose key in the new image?20:11
flowyalso i might recommend making some key combo for home and end. OS X for example has cmd-up and cmd-down by default. for my reform i used hyper-pgup and hyper-pgdn20:13
mntmnflowy: fix?20:17
mntmnah yeah home+end i already tested now on the pocket reform ^^ but i have no time to update the keyboard firmware atm20:18
mntmni'm really under a lot of pressure atm20:18
flowyin image 1 compose key didn't work for me...20:18
mntmnin sway?20:18
mntmnah yeah it's menu20:18
mntmnprobably it's missing in the sway config20:18
mntmnthanks for bringing it up, lets see20:18
flowyi added an xkb config from the community site that fixed it20:18
mntmnah20:19
mntmnok now i have the problem that default locale for new users is suddenly POSIX20:19
flowyare you under some timeline for image2?20:20
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mntmnflowy: yes, i want to ship it with the current batch, and the laptops are ready for testing20:21
mntmnso it's waiting for me 20:21
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flowyah yes that's tight20:21
flowyimage1 is stable though20:21
mntmni fixed a bunch of bugs but i need to fix the locale now20:24
mntmnok, compose key will work20:59
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reform10943ok, this image is good to go23:32
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mntmnhttps://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/jobs/40723:34
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mntmnoh wait, there were 2 more jobs lol23:43
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