| mntmn | *hint hint* | 00:13 |
|---|---|---|
| mntmn | i wonder why noone (or maybe someone did?) made a simple browser around WPE webkit, that's kind of fast too | 00:14 |
| - artfwo (QUIT: Ping timeout: 245 seconds) (~artfwo@2a02:8109:8500:26d0:e18b:8241:bf45:b708) | 00:14 | |
| mntmn | https://webkit.org/wpe/ | 00:14 |
| - wiedi (QUIT: Ping timeout: 265 seconds) (~wiedi@2a01:138:a015:15:15d3:e316:43fd:d30e) | 00:15 | |
| mntmn | there is the "cog" example browser for it in debian packages | 00:15 |
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| mntmn | Asmadeus: getting a bunch of new Oopses related to shutdown/reset, too (in 5.12), and one during boot | 00:28 |
| mntmn | sysfs_kf_seq_show | 00:29 |
| mntmn | Comm is udevadm | 00:31 |
| mntmn | ah it is sensors-related | 00:35 |
| mntmn | "sensors" segfaults for me in 5.12 | 00:35 |
| mntmn | when reading from sysfs | 00:35 |
| ex-parrot | It’s always been pretty crashy for me, for decades | 00:38 |
| mntmn | ok i straced it, the kernel oopses on /sy/class/hwmon/hwmon3/name | 00:38 |
| mntmn | lol, why the ~name~ | 00:38 |
| mntmn | ah, it's the nvme disk | 00:38 |
| mntmn | ah, crashes on reading any sysfs file in ther | 00:39 |
| mntmn | there | 00:39 |
| mntmn | yeah, sensors works again when disabling NVME_HWMON in the kernel config | 00:47 |
| mntmn | and reboot, too, so that's the same bug | 00:47 |
| bluerise | heh. wouldn't have happened with OpenBSD! because it'd have other bugs | 00:54 |
| mntmn | lol | 00:54 |
| mntmn | btw a weird trick if you want a much higher framerate in games: set the scale of the eDP output to 2 in .config/sway/config | 00:57 |
| mntmn | there seems to be a resolution tipping point where the GPU gets much slower | 00:58 |
| mntmn | (or much faster) | 00:58 |
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| ex-parrot | I am starting a new job in a couple of weeks and went to look at the current range of higher end x86 laptops for this and… boy | 10:17 |
| ex-parrot | Reform might be one of the easiest to buy laptops at the moment | 10:18 |
| ex-parrot | HP quoted me a delivery time in November | 10:18 |
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| + micken (~micken@Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE) | 11:44 | |
| micken | lo | 11:44 |
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| Asmadeus | mntmn: no etnaviv for imx8mp, and display is sluggish without some kind of accel? (I'll admit I didn't actually try, is the hantro interface dependant on it?) | 12:25 |
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| Asmadeus | nm actually I did have a weston without accel at some point, it was quite horrible | 12:27 |
| + erlehmann (~erle@dynamic-046-114-033-121.46.114.pool.telefonica.de) | 12:27 | |
| mntmn | Asmadeus: hantro and etnaviv are unrelated. | 13:13 |
| Asmadeus | Right, but 2d accel still requires either etnaviv or vivante | 13:14 |
| mntmn | ah yes, that's true | 13:24 |
| mntmn | Asmadeus: how is cpu perf of 8mp? any faster than 8mq? (it has 300mhz more, no? ;) ) | 13:25 |
| Asmadeus | To be fair most of our customers could probably live without 2d acceleration (we're selling a framework people can do what they want with), but it's hard to tell my boss they can't do that :) | 13:26 |
| Asmadeus | Haven't had a chance to try the 8mq yet, can tell you when I receive my reform! | 13:26 |
| mntmn | Asmadeus: would be quite interesting for me | 13:27 |
| mntmn | atm i consider it not worth the hassle for an upgrade | 13:27 |
| Asmadeus | Yeah they're probably not that different.. the main sell seems to be tensorflow / "machine learning processor" accelerator but I somehow don't think reform users are avid of that :) | 13:35 |
| Asmadeus | https://www.nxp.com/docs/en/supporting-information/IMX8LAYERCMPR.pdf | 13:35 |
| mntmn | yeah | 13:35 |
| mntmn | still waiting for our LS1028A prototype ;3 | 13:36 |
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| mntmn | ok first successful build of system image v2 with kernel 5.12 https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/jobs/407/artifacts/browse/reform2-imx8mq/ | 16:20 |
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| scops | <mntmn "ok first successful build of sys"> Soooo how do i upgrade the emmc and the installation on nvme? | 17:07 |
| scops | Are you going to write a howto on community.mnt.re? :) | 17:08 |
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| * help -> ndufresne | 17:22 | |
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| mntirc | scops: no idea! | 18:23 |
| mntirc | scops: i mean, you can already apt update && apt install reform-tools reform-handbook | 18:23 |
| mntirc | i think | 18:23 |
| mntirc | but there's no upgrade mechanism for the kernel and u-boot yet | 18:24 |
| mntirc | that could be a script added to reform-tools, or the kernel + uboot could be delivered as a deb as well | 18:24 |
| XgF | mntirc: it would be cool to update the default uboot to use distroboot | 18:28 |
| mntirc | XgF: who can do it? ;) | 18:28 |
| XgF | Its actually the config those of us using NixOS are using :-) | 18:29 |
| scops | <mntirc "that could be a script added to "> A script at least would be nice but a howto would be also fine | 18:36 |
| mntirc | XgF: ah, you use a different u-boot config? | 18:37 |
| XgF | Yeah, one configured to read the distroboot files | 18:37 |
| mntirc | interesting | 18:39 |
| XgF | (Since Nix already has logic to write those files for other ARM boards) | 18:40 |
| + artfwo (~artfwo@2a02:8109:8500:26d0:c498:5d0e:6073:e694) | 18:41 | |
| * mntirc -> mntmn | 18:43 | |
| + reform19944 (~reform@p5b015e8b.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) | 18:54 | |
| reform19944 | just testing the new image | 18:54 |
| - reform19944 (PART: !!unknown attribute: msg!!) (~reform@p5b015e8b.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) | 18:54 | |
| scops | hmm mntirc / mntmn i could just use the script in /boot to flash the uboot and then replace the Image and dts files... right? no dual-display / single-display anymore? | 18:54 |
| mntmn | scops: huh?? | 18:54 |
| mntmn | scops: sure still those dts, you need to rename them | 18:55 |
| mntmn | scops: the rest is correct yes | 18:55 |
| mntmn | hmm. gnome doesn't seem to work anymore | 18:56 |
| mntmn | oh it does. just takes quite a long time | 18:56 |
| scops | dual-display and single-display are the same? | 18:57 |
| mntmn | scops: they should not be the same. are they? | 18:57 |
| scops | or is dual-display and hdmi the same? | 18:57 |
| mntmn | scops: dual is hdmi, the other is single | 18:57 |
| scops | ... i ask because atm there are 3... and in the artifacts only two | 18:58 |
| scops | ô.o | 18:58 |
| mntmn | look at reform-display-config and you'll understand | 18:58 |
| scops | check | 18:58 |
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| scops | ok... i hope all is going well ^^ *flashing *replacing | 19:01 |
| scops | ehm why there are two uboots? and dont i need to flash both? | 19:02 |
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| scops | and... do i need to flash the uboot for the new kernel? | 19:39 |
| scops | there is a flash-rescue.sh... | 19:43 |
| scops | which flashes the rescue uboot | 19:43 |
| scops | sorry... scrolled with gomuks ^^ ignore the last two lines from me... | 19:44 |
| mntmn | scops: sorry i can't follow. you don't need to flash the u-boot at all | 19:53 |
| mntmn | scops: what is your goal? | 19:53 |
| scops | yeah... i thought i should :) but all is fine (i replaced the dtb and Image on the emmc) | 19:55 |
| mntmn | scops: alright. the u-boot doesn't ~need~ to be updated. there's only tiny changes in it | 19:56 |
| scops | check | 19:57 |
| mntmn | i'm currently testing the new system images, the userland has some bugs... the weirdest is that unicode symbols in the xfce4 terminal are missing, i.e. arrows and stuff | 19:58 |
| mntmn | so maybe some fallback font is missing | 19:58 |
| flowy | mntmn: did you remember to fix the compose key in the new image? | 20:11 |
| flowy | also i might recommend making some key combo for home and end. OS X for example has cmd-up and cmd-down by default. for my reform i used hyper-pgup and hyper-pgdn | 20:13 |
| mntmn | flowy: fix? | 20:17 |
| mntmn | ah yeah home+end i already tested now on the pocket reform ^^ but i have no time to update the keyboard firmware atm | 20:18 |
| mntmn | i'm really under a lot of pressure atm | 20:18 |
| flowy | in image 1 compose key didn't work for me... | 20:18 |
| mntmn | in sway? | 20:18 |
| mntmn | ah yeah it's menu | 20:18 |
| mntmn | probably it's missing in the sway config | 20:18 |
| mntmn | thanks for bringing it up, lets see | 20:18 |
| flowy | i added an xkb config from the community site that fixed it | 20:18 |
| mntmn | ah | 20:19 |
| mntmn | ok now i have the problem that default locale for new users is suddenly POSIX | 20:19 |
| flowy | are you under some timeline for image2? | 20:20 |
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| mntmn | flowy: yes, i want to ship it with the current batch, and the laptops are ready for testing | 20:21 |
| mntmn | so it's waiting for me | 20:21 |
| + rasmus-mk (~rasmus@c83-253-223-217.bredband.tele2.se) | 20:21 | |
| flowy | ah yes that's tight | 20:21 |
| flowy | image1 is stable though | 20:21 |
| mntmn | i fixed a bunch of bugs but i need to fix the locale now | 20:24 |
| mntmn | ok, compose key will work | 20:59 |
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| + ephase (~ephase@2a01:e0a:168:1211:3c5f:bf2:9a18:6116) | 22:08 | |
| + reform10943 (~reform@p5b015e8b.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) | 23:32 | |
| reform10943 | ok, this image is good to go | 23:32 |
| - reform10943 (QUIT: Client Quit) (~reform@p5b015e8b.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) | 23:32 | |
| mntmn | https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/jobs/407 | 23:34 |
| - erlehmann (QUIT: Ping timeout: 264 seconds) (~erle@dynamic-046-114-033-121.46.114.pool.telefonica.de) | 23:40 | |
| mntmn | oh wait, there were 2 more jobs lol | 23:43 |
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