2021-06-07.log

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+ odnes (~odnes@109-178-226-140.pat.ren.cosmote.net)09:57
+ rasmus-mk (~rasmus@c83-253-223-217.bredband.tele2.se)11:15
+ mjw (~mjw_@2001:1c06:2487:f800:9e5c:8eff:fe8f:a440)11:46
+ Guest81 (~Guest81@095-097-230-180.static.chello.nl)11:54
Guest81mntmn: can the tip lead of the power jack be soldered directly to the nearest edge of F1?11:56
mntmnGuest81: what's your goal?11:57
Guest81power the board11:57
Guest81the jack keeps getting loose11:58
mntmnGuest81: the connector is getting loose?11:58
Guest81yes11:58
mntmnGuest81: can you show a photo maybe? and, it is soldered on the bottom, it is a through hole component... so why do you want to solder it to the fuse?11:59
Guest81the connector is gone now, I'm trying to put in a connector off the board using some short wires12:03
mntmnoh ok... what kind of connector are you using now? and yes F1 is the first "+" component after the input12:15
Guest81just the same connector, bbl12:31
- Guest81 (QUIT: Quit: Client closed) (~Guest81@095-097-230-180.static.chello.nl)12:32
mntmn:012:33
mntmni am preparing a new system image (v2). anything i shouldn't forget to include, like a missing package?12:33
- exprez135 (QUIT: Ping timeout: 272 seconds) (~sbk@user/sbk)12:34
_BnuNibbles. :312:47
- rasmus-mk (QUIT: Quit: WeeChat 3.0.1) (~rasmus@c83-253-223-217.bredband.tele2.se)12:49
- odnes (QUIT: Ping timeout: 245 seconds) (~odnes@109-178-226-140.pat.ren.cosmote.net)12:54
scops<mntmn "i am preparing a new system imag"> What about wayfire? :)13:05
mntmnscops: i don't have time to make a complete configuration for it and test it, so next time. i'm more thinking about smaller packages.13:09
scopshmmm ok... smaller packages... youtube-dl? x)13:11
mntmni mean more like, stuff that is really missing. 13:11
mntmnah, i found some notes > install dialog, keyboard languages, rsync13:12
scopsyeah :)13:13
+ odnes (~odnes@109-178-226-140.pat.ren.cosmote.net)13:26
- freakazoid333 (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~freakazoi@2001:5b0:2a66:1008:1cc4:a7b:6cfa:31b4)13:52
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- odnes (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~odnes@109-178-226-140.pat.ren.cosmote.net)13:56
mntmnwhen running quakespasm, framerate was stuttering extremely at 1920x1080 but typing vid_restart in the quake console fixes it14:15
mntmnnow it's fluid14:15
mjwwill the new system image have a newer kernel?14:16
mntmnoh, good question14:16
mjwasking because of the occasionally disappearing sound.14:16
mntmnwas this fixed in a newer kernel?14:17
mjwIt came back after a reboot btw. Have been listening to various things.14:17
mntmni mean, now that you mention it, the sound never disappears for me now14:17
mntmnyes, it normally is fixed by a reboot14:17
mjwmntmn, I think you implied it was in a newer kernel, but maybe I misinterpreted you and now we are just bouncing back and forth "I heard someone say it was fixed in a newer kernel" :)14:18
mntmnhaha, no i meant to say the bug might have been introduced in a recent kernel version, since it was not around in the beta versions14:23
mntmn(of reform)14:23
mjwo, right, see, rumors going bad... sorry.14:25
mjwIt isn't a big issue, just annoying.14:25
mntmnso it happens often for you?14:30
mjwI have been happily hacking on the gcc rust frontend btw. Building gcc on the reform is a bit slow. But if we get this going (just a few more years of hacking) then maybe we get a better bootstrap of rust on arm64.14:30
mjwmntmn, yes, I would say 50/50, so every other reboot.14:30
mntmnmjw: that sounds cool! how does the bootstrap work right now? 14:32
mntmnmjw: i have a rust project in production but haven't looked into those details14:32
mjwmntmn, it kind of doesn't :} At least I tried through the guix bootstrap chain, but that involves building at least 3 versions of llvm and 24 (!) versions of rust, which then fails after 48 hours building, only getting as far as 4 versions of rust being build...14:34
mntmnwoah14:35
mntmnok i have only installed through rustup so far14:35
mjwof course there are people who managed, so there are binaries out there, which you can hopefully use to simply build the next version of rust.14:35
mjwbut the reform might not be the best build machine if you are serious about boostrappability :) [is that a real word?]14:35
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- specing_ (QUIT: Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in) (~specing@user/specing)14:37
mntmnmjw: possibly :D14:37
mjwanyway, it has been fun, and although slow the reform is a nice hacking machine. I also have been doing some releases of other projects with it, just to show you can do it with a free/open laptop that isn't x86_64.14:37
mntmnmjw: amazing, that's nice to hear! what releases did you do for example?14:38
+ specing (~specing@user/specing)14:38
mjwhttps://sourceware.org/pipermail/elfutils-devel/2021q2/003843.html for example. You wouldn't really know. I just switched by main machine to the reform, ran all the release stuff on it. It was amazingly not really a big deal.14:40
mjwhttps://code.wildebeest.org/git/ is what I normally hack on.14:40
mntmnmjw: that's cool though!14:42
flowymntmn: re: new operating system image, i'd consider not overriding DHCP-given DNS servers. it's kinda network hostile, can break some local DNS setups. minor thing though14:58
flowywell minor as in its easy for me to fix personally14:59
mntmnflowy: oh, let me see14:59
flowyas i understood you have cloudflare hard-coded14:59
mntmnah, resolv.conf15:00
flowyoh it's google actually15:00
mntmnno, 8.8.8.815:00
mntmnyes15:00
mntmnactually unclear to me at the moment why15:00
mntmni'll remove that and test15:00
+ odnes (~odnes@109-178-226-140.pat.ren.cosmote.net)15:02
mntmnbtw Xwayland still needs a one line patch so gtk2 and other direct-to-X guis are not messed up15:03
flowyjust curious did you encounter/fix any breakage with your system build scripts? i tried but gave up15:03
flowyi assumed some stuff changed in debian15:03
flowymeson/ninja broken in the chroot while building15:03
flowyand ext2 size limitations15:03
flowysomething like that15:03
mntmnhaven't built in a while, but will do now 15:04
mntmncool, all patches still apply on top of 5.13-rc515:05
- odnes (QUIT: Read error: No route to host) (~odnes@109-178-226-140.pat.ren.cosmote.net)15:07
flowybtw really enjoying the system. successfully transferred the os from SD to encrypted SSD and having fun slowly figuring out what to use for all my activities15:08
flowyso far no crashes15:08
flowyreally like the sway environment you bundled, sticking with it15:08
- jryans (QUIT: Quit: node-irc says goodbye) (~jryansmat@2001:470:69fc:105::1d)15:16
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mntmnflowy: cool!15:24
mntmncorrection: one patch needed adjustment for 5.13.15:25
- scops (QUIT: Quit: node-irc says goodbye) (~scopstchn@2001:470:69fc:105::8da)15:28
- cryptix (QUIT: Quit: node-irc says goodbye) (~cryptxxma@2001:470:69fc:105::94a)15:28
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- jryans (QUIT: Quit: node-irc says goodbye) (~jryansmat@2001:470:69fc:105::1d)15:28
mjwsame here, I actually first stubbornly used gnome, but then tried sway and it just works15:43
mntmnyeah sway is definitely the most stable+performant solution at the moment15:44
mntmnhmm, kernel 5.13-rc5 waits for something with blinky cursor15:45
- freakazoid333 (QUIT: Remote host closed the connection) (~freakazoi@2001:5b0:2a0d:6e28:1cc4:a7b:6cfa:31b4)16:30
mntmnah, it was hanging on probing the ath wifi module16:35
mntmnso 5.13 breaks ath9k for us16:35
mntmncould be pci refclk related16:35
+ exprez135 (~sbk@user/sbk)17:12
+ jryans (~jryansmat@2001:470:69fc:105::1d)17:13
+ scops (~scopstchn@2001:470:69fc:105::8da)17:13
+ cryptix (~cryptxxma@2001:470:69fc:105::94a)17:14
+ apolkosnik[m] (~apolkosni@2001:470:69fc:105::ff7)17:14
mntmnwtf, now i always get > [    2.979038] kernel BUG at drivers/crypto/caam/jr.c:187!17:16
swivel>······· * If JobR error, we got more development work to do17:19
swivel>······· * Flag a bug now, but we really need to shut down and17:19
swivel>······· * restart the queue (and fix code).17:19
mjwhttps://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-crypto/msg53910.html17:20
mjw?17:20
mntmninteresting, but this is on imx8mq and it never happened before17:44
mntmnwill disable pcie0 to check if it's a side effect of changes there17:45
mntmni tried the dma-coherent thing but doesn't fix it. also this seems to be irq related:17:50
mntmn[    3.098272] Call trace:17:50
mntmn[    3.100724]  caam_jr_interrupt+0x134/0x14017:50
mntmn[    3.104832]  __handle_irq_event_percpu+0x68/0x28017:50
mntmnbut i don't understand why i was able to boot the first time... 17:50
mntmni don't think i'm able to figure this out in this short time. there are also no changes since 5.11 in crypto/caam17:54
mntmnswivel: ah i see what you pasted is a comment in the driver code :317:56
swivelmntmn: yeah... I should have captioned that, was eating breakfast17:59
mntmnhaha no problem17:59
mntmnah https://www.spinics.net/lists/devicetree/msg415093.html18:01
mntmnoh, there is a hantro g2 (hevc decoder) patch https://www.spinics.net/lists/arm-kernel/msg899233.html18:08
mntmnalso interesting: mipi csi driver https://www.spinics.net/lists/arm-kernel/msg898355.html18:09
mntmnooof ok now i get the [    3.648921] kernel BUG at drivers/crypto/caam/jr.c:230!18:18
mntmnthis was because i put the dma-coherent in there. removing it lets the system boot but the caam selftests throw crazy errors18:21
flowyi just went to install wireguard-tools... it wants to pull these packages: firmware-linux-free linux-image-5.10.0-7-rt-arm64 linux-image-rt-arm64 -- will installing those screw anything up?18:23
flowyi see that at least wireguard support is already in the stock reform kernel18:24
mntmnshouldn't be a problem18:24
flowycool18:24
mntmnthat kernel will just be ignored18:24
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mntmnok, 5.13 has too many problems, i will try 5.12 next18:28
- specing (QUIT: Ping timeout: 245 seconds) (~specing@user/specing)18:28
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mntmncaam errors already in 5.12.18:50
mntmnok so 5.12 has a regression in that it always triggers the caam irq problem. cool, cool. 19:40
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+ jryans (~jryansmat@2001:470:69fc:105::1d)21:58
+ scops (~scopstchn@2001:470:69fc:105::8da)21:59
+ cryptix (~cryptxxma@2001:470:69fc:105::94a)21:59
+ apolkosnik[m] (~apolkosni@2001:470:69fc:105::ff7)21:59
+ artfwo (~artfwo@2a02:8109:8500:26d0:2102:10c:9212:4057)23:16
Asmadeusmntmn: ah, if that caam problem is what I think it is I sent them a mail about it and there's a patch in the air that fixes it, but I don't think it was picked up23:35
Asmadeusbasically the soc init comes too late and caam thinks it's on a different chip than what it is23:36

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