2021-05-20.log

+ reformer (~reformer@softboy.mntmn.com)00:07
+ reformer (~reformer@softboy.mntmn.com)00:07
mntmnah, there it is00:07
+ reformer (~reformer@softboy.mntmn.com)00:11
NeelfynAlso so that no one listens in on your DMs on a public network? :D00:14
+ mtm (~user@c-174-58-99-93.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)00:14
+ Asmadeus (~asmadeus@M014009140128.v4.enabler.ne.jp)00:14
swivelNeelfyn: but TLS is giving you a false sense of privacy in that regard, you shouldn't be putting secrets in irc DMs00:15
mtmokay, got 'erc' working with TLS (need to launch it with the 'erc-tls' command)00:15
NeelfynHaha I mean, fair enough, that's not even the only reason not to put secrets in IRC DMs00:17
mntmnok logger is back00:17
* TOPIC: MNT Reform. Logs: https://mntre.com/reform-irc-logs Source: https://source.mnt.re Community and CoC: https://community.mnt.re (by mntmn)00:18
+ ex-parrot (~fincham@user/ex-parrot)00:30
ex-parrotmorning all :)00:31
mntmnyo!00:32
swivelello00:32
ex-parrotnow I just need to get my SASL working00:32
ex-parrotmight wait until the dust has settled for that :P00:33
+ sundog (~sundog@207.225.227.236)00:34
+ truck (truck@77.246.204.69)00:37
truckoh sundog is here, huh. did sundog get one?00:38
mntmnwelcome to the other side!00:38
mntmni think sundog might be in the so called non-EU so if he ordered one he will get it only from now on00:39
sundognot yet, but sundog is gonna, right after sundog relocates to the other side of USia in a couple months ;)00:39
mntmn;300:39
+ natalie (~natalie@198.98.57.87)00:40
+ jomo (~jomo@user/jomo)00:40
mtmmntmn: was somehow soothing having your twitch in the background; feels like my Reform is somehow closer to reality00:41
mntmnmtm: aww! i will do more in this direction00:42
mntmnmy nephew (who is like 20) pushed me over the edge00:42
mtmwhat were the puffy looking white packages stacking up behind you?00:42
mntmnmtm: hoodies!00:42
mntmn(going out tomorrow)00:42
ex-parrotoooo00:42
mtmneat!00:42
ex-parrotI want one of those :P00:42
mntmnthere might be a few #s left in the shop00:43
mtmFlorida boy here, how about some Reform running shorts or swim suits?00:43
ex-parrothmm no XL size?00:44
ex-parrotmaybe I'll just make do with my reform shirt for now :300:44
mtmoh, a towel would be awesome.  never go anywhere without your towel00:44
mntmnnope, but possibly we'll do another run soon. i will then ask for sizes before.00:45
ex-parrotcool :)00:45
ex-parrotnot that I /need/ more black hoodies00:45
ex-parrotbut...00:45
mntmnit's a really nice hoodie!00:45
ex-parrotI'm gonna order one regardless :)00:45
mntmnthe whole idea came together because i really needed new ones...00:45
mntmnand then i asked around if anyone else wants one and it was quite a bunch of people00:45
+ TadeusTaD (tadeustad@psifactor.pl)00:45
ex-parrotI run a conference here where we do a hoodie every year 00:46
ex-parrotso I've got about ten in a big bag00:46
mntmnhaha ok!00:46
ex-parrot:D00:46
ex-parrotmore hoodies means more hacker00:46
trucksundog: I've had mine for a year and haven't had... time to mess with it due to the... you know. "job" and stuff.00:47
truckanyway good to see you here also.00:47
ex-parrotI quit my job recently and I can only recommend it00:47
truckI am seriously considering it but I have a minor issue in that I don't have citizenship here YET00:48
ex-parrotah, that is tricky00:48
truckalso: the medical benefits from work are quite good, which is good, as it is causing the medical issues.00:48
ex-parrot:|00:49
truckso... I am just hoping that our launch ... happens. and is not delayed. again.00:49
mntmnsorry to hear!00:49
ex-parrotyeah that sounds bad. I've unfortunately worked at jobs that were quite bad for my health before as well :(00:49
truckyes, I... let's leave that aside and talk about how great it is we're able to just pick up and move after a hostile takeover00:49
ex-parrotI agree00:49
ex-parrotIRC is great00:50
truckit's not perfec.t nothing is.00:50
mntmnit is for me kind of a sweet spot between too little and too much technology00:51
truckyes. it is... just right.00:51
ex-parrotand it's going to still be around long after Slack and everything else are dead and buried :)00:51
mntmnit is simple enough so that you could still write your own client as a shell script or something, but useful enough to facilitate real communication00:52
mntmnyeah00:52
truckyes. because it is documented, and ... when someone takes over a hostile thing like "I dunno, freenode?" it's ... "ok we're moving"00:52
mntmnyeah!00:52
ex-parrotI really thought XMPP was going to succeed IRC in ~ 200700:52
mntmnyeah, it would be good for DM stuff but it did not happen. people chose UI and painlessly mobile synced messages. 00:53
mntmni know xmpp can do these but in my experience it was hard to get that right on devices00:53
ex-parrotyeah, it didn't work well with model that phones moved to for notifications either00:54
truckxmpp is pretty ok.00:54
ex-parrote.g. needing a per-app notification key, routing the notifications through the phone OS provider etc00:54
ex-parrotI still love XMPP00:54
ex-parrotand it makes me sad that Matrix is getting so much traction when it's basically just XMPP again but not as nice00:54
ex-parrotand it has to catch up on all the stuff XMPP already spent ages working out00:54
mntmnyeah00:54
ex-parrotoh well00:55
ex-parrothow are things going at your end mntmn?00:55
mntmnbetter now00:55
ex-parrotgood to hear00:55
mntmn70+ units shipped, all mystery hardware issues resolved and we have more routine with the packaging now00:56
+ bluerise (~bluerise@user/bluerise)00:57
ex-parrotgood stuff00:59
mntmnoh and the LS1028A prototype can finally be assembled by RBZ. components for it had been forever delayed01:01
mntmni still have no idea how the graphics on it perform though.01:02
+ doppler (~doppler@user/doppler)01:26
- jomo (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~jomo@user/jomo)01:49
- ex-parrot (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~fincham@user/ex-parrot)01:49
+ reformer0 (~reformer@softboy.mntmn.com)01:51
- reformer (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~reformer@softboy.mntmn.com)01:55
- mtm (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~user@c-174-58-99-93.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)01:55
+ exprez135 (~nate@172-126-100-70.lightspeed.tulsok.sbcglobal.net)02:10
- exprez135 (QUIT: Changing host) (~nate@172-126-100-70.lightspeed.tulsok.sbcglobal.net)02:11
+ exprez135 (~nate@user/sbk)02:11
* jomo5 -> jomo02:13
* ex--parrot -> ex-parrot02:13
* mtm` -> mtm02:45
- erlehmann (QUIT: Ping timeout: 264 seconds) (~erle@dynamic-046-114-034-165.46.114.pool.telefonica.de)02:58
+ erlehmann (~erle@dynamic-046-114-034-165.46.114.pool.telefonica.de)02:58
- exprez135 (QUIT: Quit: Cheers!) (~nate@user/sbk)03:35
+ exprez135 (~sbk@2600:1700:68a0:af00:dea6:32ff:fe5e:211a)03:35
- exprez135 (QUIT: Changing host) (~sbk@2600:1700:68a0:af00:dea6:32ff:fe5e:211a)03:35
+ exprez135 (~sbk@user/sbk)03:35
- Neelfyn (QUIT: Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) (uid180106@stonehaven.irccloud.com)04:21
+ ZylonMaster (~dldske@2603-7000-c601-f02e-0000-0000-0000-0cf1.res6.spectrum.com)04:47
ZylonMasterthat was wise moving from freenode04:48
ZylonMasterits uncertain what will happen there04:48
ZylonMasternothing good probably though04:48
- ZylonMaster (QUIT: Quit: Leaving) (~dldske@2603-7000-c601-f02e-0000-0000-0000-0cf1.res6.spectrum.com)05:01
+ dodo (~nkuttler@user/dodo)05:05
+ V (~v@anomalous.eu)06:30
Vmntmn: staff will happily give you ops on #reform, they've been doing this for a lot of projects06:31
Vmntmn: see https://libera.chat/chanreg06:32
V(You could probably also PM one of them)06:32
+ patrick (~patrick@2001:8b0:ca70:32b2:feaa:14ff:fe0a:92d4)06:40
- patrick (QUIT: Quit: WeeChat 3.0.1) (~patrick@2001:8b0:ca70:32b2:feaa:14ff:fe0a:92d4)06:45
+ patrick (~patrick@2001:8b0:ca70:32b2:feaa:14ff:fe0a:92d4)06:45
+ lxs (~lxs@cable-178-148-29-112.dynamic.sbb.rs)07:40
- lxs (PART: Leaving) (~lxs@cable-178-148-29-112.dynamic.sbb.rs)07:41
+ reformer (~reformer@softboy.mntmn.com)08:13
+ natalie (~natalie@198.98.57.87)08:13
+ truck (truck@77.246.204.69)08:15
+ reformer (~reformer@softboy.mntmn.com)08:21
+ ex-parrot (~fincham@user/ex-parrot)08:21
- patrick (QUIT: Quit: WeeChat 3.0.1) (~patrick@piconet.co.uk)08:41
+ patrick (~patrick@piconet.co.uk)08:42
- patrick (QUIT: Quit: WeeChat 3.0.1) (~patrick@piconet.co.uk)09:03
+ patrick (~patrick@piconet.co.uk)09:04
+ sundog3 (~sundog@207.225.227.236)09:10
- erlehmann (QUIT: Ping timeout: 264 seconds) (~erle@dynamic-046-114-034-165.46.114.pool.telefonica.de)09:12
- doppler (QUIT: Ping timeout: 264 seconds) (~doppler@user/doppler)09:12
- sundog (QUIT: Ping timeout: 264 seconds) (~sundog@207.225.227.236)09:12
+ doppler (~doppler@user/doppler)09:13
+ erlehmann (~erle@dynamic-046-114-034-165.46.114.pool.telefonica.de)09:14
+ Neelfyn (uid180106@id-180106.stonehaven.irccloud.com)09:25
+ arminweigl_ (~arminweig@user/arminweigl)09:59
- arminweigl_ (QUIT: Quit: Quit) (~arminweig@user/arminweigl)10:00
+ XgF (~quassel@2001:19f0:5001:1174:5400:2ff:fef2:1fa2)10:41
- Asmadeus (QUIT: Quit: reboot!) (~asmadeus@M014009140128.v4.enabler.ne.jp)12:01
- erlehmann (QUIT: Ping timeout: 272 seconds) (~erle@dynamic-046-114-034-165.46.114.pool.telefonica.de)12:06
+ erlehmann (~erle@dynamic-046-114-037-164.46.114.pool.telefonica.de)12:18
+ Asmadeus (~asmadeus@240b:13:8c80:d300:e:98c:8000:d300)12:33
* ehmry -> emery12:39
+ lexik (~lexik@171.25.222.217)12:44
dodohad a nick change though. too many threats in the past..12:56
mntmndodo: better not tell anyone about it!12:59
+ S0rin (~shaman@ns3078682.ip-217-182-133.eu)12:59
mntmnoof i think freenode is in the printed manual13:00
mntmnand also in reform-chat script on the system image... ouch13:00
mntmncc erlehmann 13:00
+ plomlompom (~plom@46.38.243.227)13:00
S0rinHello, the chan name has changed there is some people in libera/#reform :/13:01
S0rinI told them to correct chan-name to join13:02
Koodamntmn: ouch that sucks :/13:02
mntmnS0rin: thanks. 13:04
+ blast007 (~blast@bzexcess.com)13:04
+ mjw (~mjw_@2001:1c06:2488:200:9e5c:8eff:fe8f:a440)13:09
+ jomo (~jomo@user/jomo)13:10
truckI did join #reform originally and didn't see mntmn so I checked the name (:13:17
blast007I did the same thing  :)13:17
truckmntmn: I guess you can put in an addendum page for the printed manual?13:19
Vmntmn: just checking, did you see what I said earlier?13:23
+ q66 (~q66@q66.moe)13:32
mntmntruck: yes, i need to make an addendum with a bunch of stuff soon13:50
mntmnV: yes, but too much work for me atm, and now we're here anyway13:50
bluerisemake the old ones 'historic' limited editions ;)13:51
Vmntmn: just a single /mode +if #reform if/when you get around to it13:51
+ ndufresne (~ndufresne@halloumi.collabora.co.uk)14:03
ndufresneMorning folks, after over a 20years being of freenode, this is so strange14:03
dodoit is, isn't it14:10
bluerisemy favourite freenode channel only switched partially. I'm a bit sad.14:12
truckndufresne: I went through the original Efnet split. This seems very 'normal' to me (:14:12
ndufresneone thing I like is that the client stay the same, and I used to have multiple networks (gimpnet notably)14:13
+ marlun (~marlun@46.101.246.245)14:16
+ artfwo (~artfwo@2a02:8109:8500:26d0:d89d:d6f4:ddda:4380)15:09
+ ezequielg (sid363064@id-363064.highgate.irccloud.com)15:12
- q66 (QUIT: Quit: q66) (~q66@q66.moe)15:41
+ q66 (~q66@q66.moe)15:41
truckyes. I am very happy that I just changed the server, and my irssi config is still... right here, like I want it.16:11
truckbtw mntmn libera is now on fedi (:16:11
mntmncool16:15
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+ jackhill (~jackhill@kalessin.dragonsnail.net)16:30
- exprez135 (QUIT: Quit: Cheers!) (~sbk@user/sbk)16:45
+ signop (~signop@li699-102.members.linode.com)16:46
+ exprez135 (~sbk@user/sbk)16:49
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+ freakazoid333 (~freakazoi@mobile-166-172-190-41.mycingular.net)17:06
+ sundog3 (~sundog@207.225.227.236)17:06
* sundog3 -> sundog17:07
+ jnerula (~jnerula@li1009-93.members.linode.com)18:12
+ arminweigl (~arminweig@user/arminweigl)18:14
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+ S0rin (~shaman@ns3078682.ip-217-182-133.eu)19:14
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+ S0rin (~S0rin@ns3078682.ip-217-182-133.eu)20:34
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