| + reformer (~reformer@softboy.mntmn.com) | 00:07 | |
| + reformer (~reformer@softboy.mntmn.com) | 00:07 | |
| mntmn | ah, there it is | 00:07 | 
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| + reformer (~reformer@softboy.mntmn.com) | 00:11 | |
| Neelfyn | Also so that no one listens in on your DMs on a public network? :D | 00:14 | 
| + mtm (~user@c-174-58-99-93.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) | 00:14 | |
| + Asmadeus (~asmadeus@M014009140128.v4.enabler.ne.jp) | 00:14 | |
| swivel | Neelfyn: but TLS is giving you a false sense of privacy in that regard, you shouldn't be putting secrets in irc DMs | 00:15 | 
| mtm | okay, got 'erc' working with TLS (need to launch it with the 'erc-tls' command) | 00:15 | 
| Neelfyn | Haha I mean, fair enough, that's not even the only reason not to put secrets in IRC DMs | 00:17 | 
| mntmn | ok logger is back | 00:17 | 
| * TOPIC: MNT Reform. Logs: https://mntre.com/reform-irc-logs Source: https://source.mnt.re Community and CoC: https://community.mnt.re (by mntmn) | 00:18 | |
| + ex-parrot (~fincham@user/ex-parrot) | 00:30 | |
| ex-parrot | morning all :) | 00:31 | 
| mntmn | yo! | 00:32 | 
| swivel | ello | 00:32 | 
| ex-parrot | now I just need to get my SASL working | 00:32 | 
| ex-parrot | might wait until the dust has settled for that :P | 00:33 | 
| + sundog (~sundog@207.225.227.236) | 00:34 | |
| + truck (truck@77.246.204.69) | 00:37 | |
| truck | oh sundog is here, huh. did sundog get one? | 00:38 | 
| mntmn | welcome to the other side! | 00:38 | 
| mntmn | i think sundog might be in the so called non-EU so if he ordered one he will get it only from now on | 00:39 | 
| sundog | not yet, but sundog is gonna, right after sundog relocates to the other side of USia in a couple months ;) | 00:39 | 
| mntmn | ;3 | 00:39 | 
| + natalie (~natalie@198.98.57.87) | 00:40 | |
| + jomo (~jomo@user/jomo) | 00:40 | |
| mtm | mntmn: was somehow soothing having your twitch in the background; feels like my Reform is somehow closer to reality | 00:41 | 
| mntmn | mtm: aww! i will do more in this direction | 00:42 | 
| mntmn | my nephew (who is like 20) pushed me over the edge | 00:42 | 
| mtm | what were the puffy looking white packages stacking up behind you? | 00:42 | 
| mntmn | mtm: hoodies! | 00:42 | 
| mntmn | (going out tomorrow) | 00:42 | 
| ex-parrot | oooo | 00:42 | 
| mtm | neat! | 00:42 | 
| ex-parrot | I want one of those :P | 00:42 | 
| mntmn | there might be a few #s left in the shop | 00:43 | 
| mtm | Florida boy here, how about some Reform running shorts or swim suits? | 00:43 | 
| ex-parrot | hmm no XL size? | 00:44 | 
| ex-parrot | maybe I'll just make do with my reform shirt for now :3 | 00:44 | 
| mtm | oh, a towel would be awesome. never go anywhere without your towel | 00:44 | 
| mntmn | nope, but possibly we'll do another run soon. i will then ask for sizes before. | 00:45 | 
| ex-parrot | cool :) | 00:45 | 
| ex-parrot | not that I /need/ more black hoodies | 00:45 | 
| ex-parrot | but... | 00:45 | 
| mntmn | it's a really nice hoodie! | 00:45 | 
| ex-parrot | I'm gonna order one regardless :) | 00:45 | 
| mntmn | the whole idea came together because i really needed new ones... | 00:45 | 
| mntmn | and then i asked around if anyone else wants one and it was quite a bunch of people | 00:45 | 
| + TadeusTaD (tadeustad@psifactor.pl) | 00:45 | |
| ex-parrot | I run a conference here where we do a hoodie every year | 00:46 | 
| ex-parrot | so I've got about ten in a big bag | 00:46 | 
| mntmn | haha ok! | 00:46 | 
| ex-parrot | :D | 00:46 | 
| ex-parrot | more hoodies means more hacker | 00:46 | 
| truck | sundog: I've had mine for a year and haven't had... time to mess with it due to the... you know. "job" and stuff. | 00:47 | 
| truck | anyway good to see you here also. | 00:47 | 
| ex-parrot | I quit my job recently and I can only recommend it | 00:47 | 
| truck | I am seriously considering it but I have a minor issue in that I don't have citizenship here YET | 00:48 | 
| ex-parrot | ah, that is tricky | 00:48 | 
| truck | also: the medical benefits from work are quite good, which is good, as it is causing the medical issues. | 00:48 | 
| ex-parrot | :| | 00:49 | 
| truck | so... I am just hoping that our launch ... happens. and is not delayed. again. | 00:49 | 
| mntmn | sorry to hear! | 00:49 | 
| ex-parrot | yeah that sounds bad. I've unfortunately worked at jobs that were quite bad for my health before as well :( | 00:49 | 
| truck | yes, I... let's leave that aside and talk about how great it is we're able to just pick up and move after a hostile takeover | 00:49 | 
| ex-parrot | I agree | 00:49 | 
| ex-parrot | IRC is great | 00:50 | 
| truck | it's not perfec.t nothing is. | 00:50 | 
| mntmn | it is for me kind of a sweet spot between too little and too much technology | 00:51 | 
| truck | yes. it is... just right. | 00:51 | 
| ex-parrot | and it's going to still be around long after Slack and everything else are dead and buried :) | 00:51 | 
| mntmn | it is simple enough so that you could still write your own client as a shell script or something, but useful enough to facilitate real communication | 00:52 | 
| mntmn | yeah | 00:52 | 
| truck | yes. because it is documented, and ... when someone takes over a hostile thing like "I dunno, freenode?" it's ... "ok we're moving" | 00:52 | 
| mntmn | yeah! | 00:52 | 
| ex-parrot | I really thought XMPP was going to succeed IRC in ~ 2007 | 00:52 | 
| mntmn | yeah, it would be good for DM stuff but it did not happen. people chose UI and painlessly mobile synced messages. | 00:53 | 
| mntmn | i know xmpp can do these but in my experience it was hard to get that right on devices | 00:53 | 
| ex-parrot | yeah, it didn't work well with model that phones moved to for notifications either | 00:54 | 
| truck | xmpp is pretty ok. | 00:54 | 
| ex-parrot | e.g. needing a per-app notification key, routing the notifications through the phone OS provider etc | 00:54 | 
| ex-parrot | I still love XMPP | 00:54 | 
| ex-parrot | and it makes me sad that Matrix is getting so much traction when it's basically just XMPP again but not as nice | 00:54 | 
| ex-parrot | and it has to catch up on all the stuff XMPP already spent ages working out | 00:54 | 
| mntmn | yeah | 00:54 | 
| ex-parrot | oh well | 00:55 | 
| ex-parrot | how are things going at your end mntmn? | 00:55 | 
| mntmn | better now | 00:55 | 
| ex-parrot | good to hear | 00:55 | 
| mntmn | 70+ units shipped, all mystery hardware issues resolved and we have more routine with the packaging now | 00:56 | 
| + bluerise (~bluerise@user/bluerise) | 00:57 | |
| ex-parrot | good stuff | 00:59 | 
| mntmn | oh and the LS1028A prototype can finally be assembled by RBZ. components for it had been forever delayed | 01:01 | 
| mntmn | i still have no idea how the graphics on it perform though. | 01:02 | 
| + doppler (~doppler@user/doppler) | 01:26 | |
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| - ex-parrot (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~fincham@user/ex-parrot) | 01:49 | |
| + reformer0 (~reformer@softboy.mntmn.com) | 01:51 | |
| - reformer (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~reformer@softboy.mntmn.com) | 01:55 | |
| - mtm (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~user@c-174-58-99-93.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) | 01:55 | |
| + exprez135 (~nate@172-126-100-70.lightspeed.tulsok.sbcglobal.net) | 02:10 | |
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| + exprez135 (~nate@user/sbk) | 02:11 | |
| * jomo5 -> jomo | 02:13 | |
| * ex--parrot -> ex-parrot | 02:13 | |
| * mtm` -> mtm | 02:45 | |
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| + ZylonMaster (~dldske@2603-7000-c601-f02e-0000-0000-0000-0cf1.res6.spectrum.com) | 04:47 | |
| ZylonMaster | that was wise moving from freenode | 04:48 | 
| ZylonMaster | its uncertain what will happen there | 04:48 | 
| ZylonMaster | nothing good probably though | 04:48 | 
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| + dodo (~nkuttler@user/dodo) | 05:05 | |
| + V (~v@anomalous.eu) | 06:30 | |
| V | mntmn: staff will happily give you ops on #reform, they've been doing this for a lot of projects | 06:31 | 
| V | mntmn: see https://libera.chat/chanreg | 06:32 | 
| V | (You could probably also PM one of them) | 06:32 | 
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| + reformer (~reformer@softboy.mntmn.com) | 08:13 | |
| + natalie (~natalie@198.98.57.87) | 08:13 | |
| + truck (truck@77.246.204.69) | 08:15 | |
| + reformer (~reformer@softboy.mntmn.com) | 08:21 | |
| + ex-parrot (~fincham@user/ex-parrot) | 08:21 | |
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| + Neelfyn (uid180106@id-180106.stonehaven.irccloud.com) | 09:25 | |
| + arminweigl_ (~arminweig@user/arminweigl) | 09:59 | |
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| + Asmadeus (~asmadeus@240b:13:8c80:d300:e:98c:8000:d300) | 12:33 | |
| * ehmry -> emery | 12:39 | |
| + lexik (~lexik@171.25.222.217) | 12:44 | |
| dodo | had a nick change though. too many threats in the past.. | 12:56 | 
| mntmn | dodo: better not tell anyone about it! | 12:59 | 
| + S0rin (~shaman@ns3078682.ip-217-182-133.eu) | 12:59 | |
| mntmn | oof i think freenode is in the printed manual | 13:00 | 
| mntmn | and also in reform-chat script on the system image... ouch | 13:00 | 
| mntmn | cc erlehmann | 13:00 | 
| + plomlompom (~plom@46.38.243.227) | 13:00 | |
| S0rin | Hello, the chan name has changed there is some people in libera/#reform :/ | 13:01 | 
| S0rin | I told them to correct chan-name to join | 13:02 | 
| Kooda | mntmn: ouch that sucks :/ | 13:02 | 
| mntmn | S0rin: thanks. | 13:04 | 
| + blast007 (~blast@bzexcess.com) | 13:04 | |
| + mjw (~mjw_@2001:1c06:2488:200:9e5c:8eff:fe8f:a440) | 13:09 | |
| + jomo (~jomo@user/jomo) | 13:10 | |
| truck | I did join #reform originally and didn't see mntmn so I checked the name (: | 13:17 | 
| blast007 | I did the same thing :) | 13:17 | 
| truck | mntmn: I guess you can put in an addendum page for the printed manual? | 13:19 | 
| V | mntmn: just checking, did you see what I said earlier? | 13:23 | 
| + q66 (~q66@q66.moe) | 13:32 | |
| mntmn | truck: yes, i need to make an addendum with a bunch of stuff soon | 13:50 | 
| mntmn | V: yes, but too much work for me atm, and now we're here anyway | 13:50 | 
| bluerise | make the old ones 'historic' limited editions ;) | 13:51 | 
| V | mntmn: just a single /mode +if #reform if/when you get around to it | 13:51 | 
| + ndufresne (~ndufresne@halloumi.collabora.co.uk) | 14:03 | |
| ndufresne | Morning folks, after over a 20years being of freenode, this is so strange | 14:03 | 
| dodo | it is, isn't it | 14:10 | 
| bluerise | my favourite freenode channel only switched partially. I'm a bit sad. | 14:12 | 
| truck | ndufresne: I went through the original Efnet split. This seems very 'normal' to me (: | 14:12 | 
| ndufresne | one thing I like is that the client stay the same, and I used to have multiple networks (gimpnet notably) | 14:13 | 
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| + q66 (~q66@q66.moe) | 15:41 | |
| truck | yes. I am very happy that I just changed the server, and my irssi config is still... right here, like I want it. | 16:11 | 
| truck | btw mntmn libera is now on fedi (: | 16:11 | 
| mntmn | cool | 16:15 | 
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