2021-05-03.log

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patsaHello again, I thought since the inbuilt wifi card was an atheros based that i could use my usb one. it fails to load the firmware even though firmware-ath9k-htc is installed. do i need to recompile the kernel like the post on community forums but choosing atheros cards?15:35
patsai am cloning the kernel right now15:36
mntmnpatsa: you have a USB ath9k stick?15:43
mntmnpatsa: ah if it needs firmware, then you have to change the kernel driver into a module and load it after the filesystem is mounted15:43
patsayup i have the tplink wl722n v1 which sports an atheros 9000 chipset15:46
patsawill that mess an internal pcie atheron card when i insert it though?15:47
mntmnshouldn't be a problem...15:47
patsaok then sincei'll be compilin then it is enable that rndis usb and both atheros and intel wlan cards15:50
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patsaswaylock isn't installed by default yet there is a configuration for it in sway config. Guess it should be available to users at install time or removed from the config.16:19
mntmnpatsa: yep, missing from the default install16:20
patsajust quick info if you're using a headphone jack be careful when inserting/removing so as not to eject the sd card16:45
artfwois there a reason why the left wheel button on the trackball also functions as button 1? i think it has unintended side-effects, e.g. in inkscape it blocks scrolling completely, in gedit selects the scrolled content, etc.17:07
artfwomntmn: happy to provide the patch for the above issue, if it's not an intended behaviour17:08
patsaain't it left mouse click and right click? the ones left and right of the trackball?17:18
artfwono, i'm talking about the bottom left (wheel) button: https://mntre.com/reform2/handbook/input.html#trackball17:20
artfwoin the firmware it's explicitly coded to act as button 1 in addition to activating the wheel mode17:22
patsahm that is why i can left click with that too17:23
artfwoyeah17:23
patsai guess it is mostly due to ergonomics, i tend to use that to click when using the trackball with my right hand as my thumb tends to fall on that button when the index finger is on the ball17:24
patsano clue if it is intended that way.17:26
artfwomaybe alternatively, it could send a click if the ball hasn't moved17:26
patsai am not really familiar with how that works. but i guess leaving one single function as the press and let the user choose what that keypress will do on software seems the easiest, as in not reflashing the firmware every time you want to change button behaviour17:28
patsamkkernel takes soooooo long17:29
patsahm the oled screen probably doesn't autoupdate, gonna look into that. I like having it on the battery status17:31
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mntmnartfwo: yeah it was intended that way that you can also use it to click, but i understand that it is counter intuitive19:42
artfwointuitivity-wise it's okay :) i am concerned about the fact that it has side-effects though :)19:44
artfwomntmn: also, would you be interested in eventually adding scrolling on the X axis while holding the wheel buttons? CADs and graphics editors usually support that already on the app side19:50
mntmnawesome review https://mauromorales.com/2021/04/30/mnt-reform-2-diy-kit-review/19:53
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mntmn:D19:59
mntmnartfwo: yes, i would like x/y-scrolling very much, and also fine scrolling19:59
mntmnartfwo: so far it emulates mouse wheel with steps, which is not very pleasant19:59
mntmnartfwo: but i still need to understand (i think) microsoft's USB HID extensions for this20:00
artfwothanks, good to know!20:02
devylmntmn: have you already tryed wayfire again? :) i just read the mauromorales article and the comments on sway/gnome... so i thought it would be nice to add wayfire to your repository ;)20:17
KoodaAre you aware that you can use libinput parameters to make one button a scroll button?20:20
mntmndevyl: ahhh i forgot... writing it in my TODO20:20
KoodaI use that on my desktop trackball, it supports both axes.20:20
mntmnKooda: interesting!20:20
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artfwoKooda: thanks, it works well for the Reform trackball too!21:20
KoodaNice!21:22
mntmn:O21:22
_BnuYou should make it so you have to touch the trackball in two separate spots to show any scrollbars.21:41
_BnuAnd then they disappear when you try to move the cursor to them.21:41
_BnuJust to make Mac users feel more at home...21:42
mntmnlol21:44
mntmnwe could replace the ball with a plasma globe21:44
dopplerhahaha yes21:50
KoodaXD21:52
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