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mntmn25 EU Reforms just went out!13:44
Kooda\o//13:46
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rvense \\\o//13:51
devyl!!! x)13:52
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andreas-eExcellent!14:15
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+ af (~af@20.52.245.213.rev.sfr.net)15:13
artfwohow can i submit patches to reform source code repositories? tried to create an account on https://source.mnt.re and it's pending approval for a couple of weeks already15:14
mntmnartfwo: ah, just tell me that you're waiting, i can approve you!15:16
mntmnartfwo: because in germany we're legally responsible for content hosted on our sites, i can't just automatically let in anyone15:17
artfwothanks mntmn, yes, i'm waiting for approval, same username as here15:17
artfwois it okay to just use standard gitlab instruments for reporting issues and submitting code?15:18
mntmnartfwo: approved15:18
mntmnartfwo: yes, that's ok15:19
artfwodanke sehr!15:19
mntmnyou're welcome ^^15:19
mntmnanyone else here waiting for source.mnt.re account approval?15:20
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KoodaOoh, last EU batch already! Damn, I’m excited now :316:04
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+ pkill9 (~quassel@unaffiliated/pkill9)19:17
pkill9hi, is there any way the cost of this could go down? What is the primary expense of the MNT Reform?19:18
+ mauro_ (~mauro@ptr-g122vi6nzbtsp7quv6f.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be)19:18
devylits open hardware and developed/assembled in germany :) also ist modular and easy to repair... so... its not expensive ... it just not mass china assembled19:20
devyl * its open hardware and developed/assembled in germany :) also ist modular and easy to repair... so... its not expensive ... it just not china massassembled19:20
devyl * its open hardware and developed/assembled in germany :) also ist modular and easy to repair... so... its not expensive ... it just not china mass assembled19:20
pkill9yea19:22
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pkill9i suppose the upgradeability compared to a standard new laptop it is decently priced19:27
pkill9ontop of other benefits like mechanical keyboard19:27
pkill9for now old laptops are best for me i guess19:29
pkill9old thinkpads19:29
flowyit's a pretty distinct set of compromises i think! which is why i like the reform19:34
flowyfor example, i'd personally not touch a pine64. it tries too hard to be cheap.19:34
flowybut yeah, reform is in an interesting stage in terms of scale. if we all love it, hopefully the reform or stuff like it (open hardware with also an emphasis on quality) can break out of an enthusiast market and benefit more from economies of scale19:37
flowyi understand why non-enthusiasts find it unaffordable right now19:38
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flowygoing out on a limb i would bet that there's already a bigger market for the reform at its current cost, but the risk associated with something crowd-funded at this stage keeps many away19:43
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