2021-04-02.log

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+ rasmus-mk (~rasmus@c83-253-223-217.bredband.comhem.se)09:07
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+ mjw (~mjw_@herd.wildebeest.org)11:59
mjwmntmn, It is Good Friday indeed. Got the battery holder replacement yesterday. Replaced the one I burned out (I can now see what it was and I don't think I could have fixed that myself). Charged it overnight. 100% good to go now :)12:11
devyl:)12:25
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+ Neelfyn (uid180106@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rsczuxfwlnikbtyf)14:05
mntmnmjw: awesome!14:10
mntmnmjw: by any chance did you make a photo of the damage? would be interesting to see14:10
mjwmntmn, sorry no picture, and I don't immediately see how to compare the little board with the schematics in the handbook. But it was simply the thing that connected the two middle battery holder on the top of the board that "came through" the surface.15:13
mjwI think I touched them both for a second with a screwdriver while both had a battery in them and that simply shortcircuted that connection.15:14
mjwBad mistake, but lesson learned, there are spare parts and replacing anything is really easy.15:15
mntmnok, i see!15:21
mjwACTION sticks to software and will now clean up some valgrind stuff so it works better on arm :)15:23
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mntmnmjw: cool!!15:47
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- rasmus-mk (QUIT: Quit: Konversation terminated!) (~rasmus@c83-253-223-217.bredband.comhem.se)19:25
devylhm openmw (elder scrolls 3) runs. but 1080p is a little to much for the reform xD (it doesnt accept other resolutions... o.o)19:55
_BnuMaybe it's running in some OpenGL ES mode?19:58
devylhm it uses sdl219:59
devylrunning from commandline (without wayland session) is not a good idea... no mouse/keyboard x.x20:05
mntmndevyl: try scale20:27
mntmndevyl: if you use sway, you can scale the output20:27
mntmnit works wonders for some stuff20:27
mntmnthat's how i watch netflix in an armhf chroot20:27
mntmni set scale to 1.5 and that's enough to make sw rendering fluid20:28
mntmnmaybe enlightenment can scale the output too20:28
mntmnalso make sure if you use sdl2 that you set SDL_VIDEODRIVER=wayland20:28
devylyeah i'm on sway now... enlightenment has some problems with rendering... some apps just display garbage inside the window20:29
devylcan i scale a app only?20:29
mntmndevyl: no, but you can change scale on the fly20:40
mntmndevyl: by reloading the config (super+shift+C)20:41
devylhm... yeah... in general 1.25 looks a way better than using big fonts for readability... (1080p is much for a screen of the size the reform has imho)20:48
mntmnyeah it's good to be able to scale20:49
mntmnwhen i'm tired i also choose a bigger scale sometimes20:49
mntmnbut only wayland native apps will scale with hi resolution, x apps will be pixelated. but that can be good for games20:50
devylYeah... Since i use mostly gtk3 apps i'm fine with that :)20:56
devylFirefox scales also nicely with wayland backend20:57
mntmnoh you were able to run firefox with wayland backend? on debian?20:57
mntmni had some trouble there. also webrender didn't work for me (mesa crashes)20:58
devylHm i just set it like the swaywm wiki says. Sometimes context menues have rendering problems. But besides that it seems to work nicely21:01
devyl(running normal, not esr release)21:01
mntmnhmm ok maybe i have to re-check that21:03
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+ odnes (~odnes@109-178-254-186.pat.ren.cosmote.net)21:06
devylsame for thunderbird :)21:17
devylthe only downside is, that notifications from thunderbird are own windows (tiling) and not overlapping21:18
mntmndevyl: i remember when i tried thunderbird several months ago it was unusably slow (the scrolling). did they fix it?21:26
mntmndevyl: ok my mistake is probably that i have firefox-esr installed instead of firefox21:27
devyli have done nothing besides "apt install" ^^21:31
devylthe settings menu is very slow21:32
devylbut scrolling in mails or feeds are fine21:32
mntmnok21:35
mntmni have firefox running wayland native now. the scrolling is not smooth though (not as in chromium). otherwise it seems snappy21:35
mntmnwebrender doesn't seem to work21:35
mntmn> Failed GL context creation for WebRender: 021:35
devylhm ok... yeah... i never tryed it... sorry21:38
_BnuI would guess that OpenMW is trying to use some OpenGL/ES thing that ends up getting handled in software... because Morrowind's graphics certainly don't require a video card of this decade, haha.21:39
devylif i scale the output openmw renders in lower res... but the settings still saying 1080p ;)21:40
mntmnmeh https://github.com/servo/webrender/issues/370121:41
mntmnchromium is doing a better job here21:41
mntmnbut debian chromium is afaik not wayland native21:41
mntmndevyl: funny21:42
mntmndevyl: does it speed up?21:42
devyli think so... i will try it with fps on... ^^21:44
devylok... seems that framerate doubles with scale factor... 2 = double fps to no scale21:52
devylo.o i think i should test more... it seems that water shader runs better with scale 2... but without scale and water shader the game overall is faster21:56
devylstrange21:56
mntmndevyl: that's cool @ double fps22:02
mntmnah hmm22:02
mntmnmaybe the shader is just slow22:03
devylyes ^^22:03
mntmnhmmm strange, firefox with native wayland but without any acceleration seems faster than chromium22:03
mntmnat least glowing bear is more responsive22:03
mntmnlets see how it handles mattermost...22:04
devyli get about ~15-20 fps in seyda neen with 1080p without shader/shadows22:04
+ B[] (~Thunderbi@219-89-228-78-adsl.sparkbb.co.nz)22:11
mntmnok, slow mattermost just seems to be a problem of mattermost https://github.com/mattermost/mattermost-redux/pull/140722:11
_BnuAh yeah, OpenGL is done using a MESA driver, right?22:20
_BnuSo it might have softare fallback for anything missing/unimplemented, I haven't really looked at it.22:20
mntmn_Bnu: yep, opengl is implemented by mesa. it is using the NIR shader compiler and the etnaviv gallium driver.22:27
mntmn(it's all in the mesa repo)22:31
- odnes (QUIT: Remote host closed the connection) (~odnes@109-178-254-186.pat.ren.cosmote.net)22:51
devylmntmn: you could also use layout.css.devPixelsPerPx (about:config) to scale the ff-ui without changing the whole output in sway23:01
mntmndevyl: that's cool but i want to change the whole output23:02
mntmndevyl: it's more relaxing for my eyes23:02
devyl:) check23:02
+ erlehmann (~erlehmann@dynamic-046-114-034-203.46.114.pool.telefonica.de)23:45

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