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| + specing_ (~specing@unaffiliated/specing) | 00:05 | |
| Esi | wait what... what did you do to gain 20% cpu upgrade regarding browser? | 00:10 |
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| - mjw (QUIT: Quit: Leaving) (~mjw_@herd.wildebeest.org) | 00:51 | |
| ex-parrot | Esi: switched to Sway instead of X11 + i3, 20% is a very subjective made up figure :) | 00:55 |
| ex-parrot | but it's what it kind of feels like | 00:56 |
| - oomono (QUIT: Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) (uid328183@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iriuqnepyeohvezj) | 01:56 | |
| + specing_ (~specing@unaffiliated/specing) | 02:35 | |
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| ex-parrot | mmm ok I spent entirely too long playing with sway and wayland and I think it's not really usable for me yet :/ | 03:04 |
| ex-parrot | ydotool is only a partial implementation of xdotool, the scaling is very blurry for X applications, not sure how to deal with notifcations, previously I had browser notifications go to dbus to my own script but now they seem to pop up in a giant independent window :P | 03:04 |
| ex-parrot | wofi is kind of only a partial implementation of the same features of rofi | 03:06 |
| ex-parrot | ydotool is pretty damn gross, it makes a socket with a predictable filename in /tmp | 03:07 |
| ex-parrot | and I had to adjust udev to make /dev/uinput writable by my user :/ | 03:07 |
| ex-parrot | it doesn't even have a man page in Debian :P | 03:08 |
| ex-parrot | it does make the web browser a bit faster tho | 03:08 |
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| lastebil | ACTION is confused why anyone would need 'xdotool' at all, but... | 10:32 |
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| + erlehmann (~erlehmann@dynamic-046-114-037-220.46.114.pool.telefonica.de) | 10:56 | |
| rvense | lastebil: you can do all sorts of things with it | 11:02 |
| + oomono (uid328183@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-klnagrdsuxhwalqm) | 11:08 | |
| - odnes (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~odnes@109-178-211-238.pat.ren.cosmote.net) | 11:18 | |
| mntmn | ex-parrot: do you have a sway hangover | 11:32 |
| mntmn | ex-parrot: i'm curious what all these dotool-scripts are for | 11:33 |
| Kooda | Can’t you send messages to sway to fake some inputs? | 11:36 |
| mntmn | yes | 11:41 |
| mntmn | https://manpages.debian.org/experimental/sway/swaymsg.1.en.html | 11:41 |
| Kooda | There doesn’t seem to be anything to send inputs | 11:44 |
| Kooda | Like, fake key presses or mouse movement. | 11:45 |
| Kooda | But I would assume it’s easy to add. | 11:45 |
| + Neelfyn (uid180106@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gpfpkhqgrkpxgpqi) | 11:46 | |
| Kooda | Oh nevermind! | 11:46 |
| Kooda | It’s in the input section, seat subsection | 11:47 |
| Kooda | https://manpages.debian.org/experimental/sway/sway-input.5.en.html#SEAT_CONFIGURATION | 11:47 |
| + mjw (~mjw_@herd.wildebeest.org) | 12:33 | |
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| + reform8050 (~cas@2a00:6020:1000:1b::b96) | 14:20 | |
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| lastebil | rvense: you can do all sorts of things without it also (: I've never run into anything that needed xdotool that couldn't be solved in a simpler way. | 14:22 |
| rvense | i'm not sure i have either, but you can do all sorts of things with it! | 14:28 |
| rvense | i probably haven't used it in ten years, and i don't really remember what i was trying to do | 14:29 |
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| _Bnu | https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/721152218220462090/824284039640252436/20210324_151005.jpg :3 | 15:11 |
| _Bnu | A few corrected bad build script assumptions later, QB64 works fine on the Reform. ;D | 15:13 |
| mntmn | this photo loads from the right to left! | 15:28 |
| mntmn | _Bnu: that's cool btw!! | 15:29 |
| _Bnu | Unfortunately the ASCII character mappings in QB64 seem to be wrong... so the snakes are rendered in the top pixel when they're in the bottom one and vice versa. ('A`) | 15:32 |
| _Bnu | I can't believe they would claim to be QBasic 4.5 compatible and can't even run Nibbles... | 15:32 |
| mntmn | tsk tsk!! | 15:38 |
| mntmn | maybe there is some code page setting magic or so? | 15:38 |
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| - odnes (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~odnes@109-178-211-238.pat.ren.cosmote.net) | 20:21 | |
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| ex-parrot | mntmn: perhaps :P I am still using it, so it can't be that bad either | 21:05 |
| ex-parrot | mostly I use xdotool for things like: I have a set of scripts w/ rofi and xdotool that let me pick a password to decrypt from a text file, then I use GPG w/ a yubikey to decrupt that password and robotype it | 21:07 |
| ex-parrot | because I work as a sysadmin so I'm typing passwords all day basically :/ | 21:07 |
| ex-parrot | I also work across a lot of systems I don't always have enough control of to have e.g. my own scripts on them, so being able to robotype common operations in to the software I'm using is quite labour saving :P | 21:08 |
| ex-parrot | and of course, my emoji picker | 21:08 |
| doppler | pretty much ditto except I'm not a sysadmin | 21:13 |
| doppler | also I have some window management hacks that I cobbled together with it | 21:13 |
| ex-parrot | the emoji picker is the most important | 21:13 |
| doppler | of course | 21:14 |
| ex-parrot | I used to have an even worse workflow, which was a script that looked at the topmost / focused window, parsed the title bar, extracted the hostname of the machine I was on, then went and SSH'd in to the machine in the background, grabbed my encrypted password from a file in the homedir, locally GPG decrypted it then typed it in with xdotool | 21:14 |
| ex-parrot | when I worked for a company that looked after ~ 3000 machines belonging to a couple hundred different companies | 21:15 |
| doppler | hehehe | 21:15 |
| doppler | that sounds convenient, albeit fragile | 21:16 |
| + rasmus-mk (~rasmus@c83-253-223-217.bredband.comhem.se) | 21:16 | |
| ex-parrot | it was exactly that | 21:16 |
| ex-parrot | at least I currently work for a place that has only ~ 40 machines | 21:17 |
| ex-parrot | so I can live with re-typing the hostname to get a sudo password lookup | 21:17 |
| doppler | the main thing I'd like to figure out now is a reasonably secure way of avoiding typing my master password(s) every time I need to enter any password | 21:17 |
| ex-parrot | I use a yubikey in smartcard mode w/ proof of presence required | 21:17 |
| doppler | maybe I'll do yubikey, yeah | 21:17 |
| ex-parrot | which, I can think of plenty of ways to hack around, but it would still make it more difficult | 21:18 |
| doppler | how does PoP work? | 21:18 |
| doppler | not familiar at all | 21:18 |
| ex-parrot | and if there's one thing I've learned from working at a security auditing company it's that making things annoying for attackers has some value :P | 21:18 |
| doppler | security is a spectrum | 21:18 |
| ex-parrot | it just flashes the LED on the yubikey when you ask it to decrypt or authenticate, and you have to poke the capacitive button to confirm you initiated the action | 21:18 |
| ex-parrot | I use this for my SSH and GPG | 21:18 |
| doppler | ah OK | 21:18 |
| ex-parrot | I have considered wiring up a morse code key to the capacitve buttons... | 21:19 |
| doppler | :))) | 21:19 |
| doppler | I, uh | 21:19 |
| doppler | don't think my Yubikey has that feature sadly | 21:19 |
| doppler | or maybe I just didn't know about it? | 21:19 |
| doppler | it's generation 4, IIRC | 21:19 |
| ex-parrot | yeah gen 4 can do that | 21:20 |
| doppler | ah! cool | 21:20 |
| ex-parrot | the gen 5 makes it a little better for SSH as they fully support webauthn resident keys then | 21:20 |
| doppler | mm | 21:21 |
| ex-parrot | there's something subtly different about the mouse acceleration curve in sway | 21:28 |
| ex-parrot | I can't put my finger on it but the mouse just doesn't quite move how I expect | 21:28 |
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| - rasmus-mk (QUIT: Quit: Konversation terminated!) (~rasmus@c83-253-223-217.bredband.comhem.se) | 22:04 | |
| ex-parrot | hmm finding weird bugs with menus in GTK too, like it doesn't notice the mouse is over an option very reliably :/ | 22:56 |
| doppler | that, uh, doesn't sound great | 22:59 |
| ex-parrot | might be related to my scaling on my work computer I guess, haven't noticed it on this laptop at least | 23:00 |
| ex-parrot | something weird is up w/ clipboard too :/ | 23:12 |
| - mjw (QUIT: Quit: Leaving) (~mjw_@herd.wildebeest.org) | 23:36 | |
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