2021-03-22.log

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mjwmntmn, Got it! It looks beautiful. But cannot play with it till tonight.10:56
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mntmnmjw: amazing!! keep us posted ^^12:44
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reverbdogmjw: 🎉🥂16:49
mjw:) One more meeting and then I can finally start hacking it... Day jobs...16:50
jackhillHi mjw, nice to run into you here too.16:52
mjwjackhill, Hi. In that darn meeting now. So need to pay attention so I am not totally surprised when my name is called :)17:24
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mjwmntmn, Finally opened it up. Do you happen to have an example of how you folded the wifi antenna inside the box?19:31
mjwACTION finds https://mntre.com/media/reform_md/mnt-reform2-diy-manual-r1.pdf19:50
mjwhmmm, what is the acrillic antenna holder?19:50
mntmnmjw: ah, the antenna holder is a rectangle with a small rectangle cut out19:52
mntmnmjw: transparent19:53
mntmnmjw: ugly picture, but this is how it looks like https://mastodon.social/web/statuses/10593496507589786719:55
mntmnmjw: you remove the UI1 and UI2 cables from the motherboard and put this "around" the connectors on the motherboard. then plug the cables back. the molex antenna you stick on this piece of acrylic.19:56
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mjwmntmn, aha. doh. thanks yes, I get that piece. Put it away as "ok, odd, dunno what that is" :}20:04
mntmnmy fault, sorry. it is only documented for the DIY version i think and there is no picture of it anywhere20:05
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+ mjw_reform (~mark@herd.wildebeest.org)21:17
mjw_reformyes! wifi installed and works :)21:18
mjw_reformI am afraid I managed to fry one of the battery cells. /me hangs head in shame. there were lots of warnings to remove them before doing any work...21:22
mjw_reformbut everything still seems to work21:22
mjw_reformthe little display is very cute. And does show me the cell I fried.21:22
dopplerhuh... what happened to the cell?21:23
mjw_reformssd also works and is really fast21:27
eeryguessing they shorted it :^)21:27
doppleryes but that'd be quite violent21:28
mjw_reformI accidentially touched it with a screwdriver. Just being stupid :{21:29
mjw_reformit wasn't violent, just a puff of blue smoke...21:31
mjw_reformThe cells were disconnected from the board, so luckily nothing else shorted. Just this one cell.21:32
mjw_reformI am working on the machine right now, so it is pretty OK otherwise :)21:32
eeryIIRC the battery chemistry of the cells in the reform aren't as inclined to have explosive thermal runaways as the high density li-ion cells in most phones21:39
eeryiron phosphate vs the more common cobalt oxide cells I think21:43
dopplerI see21:51
dopplerstill, smoke when you're not expecting there to be smoke21:52
dopplerlesson learned, eh? :)21:52
ex-parrotmorning all22:16
ex-parrotACTION resumes refreshing his e-mail, waiting for a shipping notification22:16
- mjw_reform (QUIT: Quit: Leaving) (~mark@herd.wildebeest.org)22:37
mntmnmjw: woot woot22:47
mntmnmjw: it's possible that you smoked a trace on the battery board22:48
mntmnmjw: i recommend that when you have time, take the cells out and beep the connections between the cells and to the MB22:48
mntmnmjw: the good news is that broken traces on the battery boards can be fixed quite easily by soldering wire bridges22:49
mntmnmjw: btw you cannot charge safely if not alle cells are connected22:56
mntmn(probably obvious)22:56
mntmnex-parrot: i uploaded new tracking numbers to CS but they'll probably only process them in a few hours or so...22:57
ex-parrot:)22:57
mntmnex-parrot: if you're in the EU that is. if not, you'll have to wait a bit longer22:57
ex-parrotnaw, NZ22:58
mntmnsorry then!!22:58
ex-parrotI know, I have to be patient :)22:58
mntmnwe're grinding through the first EU orders22:58
mntmnactually we've almost sent out everything that we had metal parts for... another 80s are in transit to us22:58
mntmn8022:58
ex-parrot\m/22:58
ex-parrotfeel free to not answer this, but do you think it's possible the non-EU orders will go out in under a month?22:59
ex-parrotI'm just trying to decide if I need to find a different delivery address for you to ship to...22:59
mntmnwell, not ~all~ of them23:00
mntmnwe'll be making batches23:00
ex-parrotof course23:00
mntmnbecause it doesn't make sense to make a huge pile for months and not ship anything23:02
mntmnto fulfill all of the backlog i think we will need 3 months23:02
mntmnat this point i'm not even sure if we will be sending palettes or just some big boxes to CS regularly...23:02
mntmnso it depends when you ordered ex-parrot23:02
ex-parrotI don't want to make this your problem at all :P23:02
mntmnalright ^^ anyway it won't technically be my problem. just make sure to update your address with CS23:02
mntmnbecause they will ship to you23:02
ex-parrotyeah23:02
ex-parrotI ordered on the 8th of May 202023:03
mntmnok that's very early in23:03
mntmnso you won't have to wait long i think. but i can't say exactly, because i don't have a non-EU customer list.23:03
ex-parrotyeah, all good. I'll see what happens, worst case I might have to go begging at my old office :P23:04
mntmnso we actually do not know who will get the devices.23:04
mntmnhehe ok23:04
ex-parrotcheers :)23:04
ex-parrotI think I was in the first handful or so of orders, I ordered immediately after you announced it on Mastodon23:04
mntmneery: correct btw. the batteries are LiFePO4 and that doesn't have cobalt23:05
mntmnex-parrot: yeah so probably you will be in the first batch that CS will process.23:05
ex-parrot(I'm @fincham@cloudisland.nz fwiw, I may not have mentioned that before)23:05
mntmni just have to figure out how many we'll send them at once. maybe 50.23:05
ex-parrotcool23:05
ex-parrotmakes sense to me23:05
mntmnah i see!23:05
ex-parrotthis exact thing happened when I backed the Novena too, I ended up moving offices at pretty much exactly the expected shipping date :P23:06
mntmnsuch nomadic life23:06
ex-parrotI wish23:06
ex-parrotunrelated to all of that, do you have some rough figures on the latest battery life?23:08
ex-parrottalking about blowing out the traces reminded me I had been meaning to ask23:08
alex4nderex-parrot: I'm in the same boat.. I think I'm gonna need to pick it up from crowdsupply23:14
mjwmntmn, darn corona pandemic makes it a little difficult to go to a hackerspace where they can help me with the soldering (yeah, don't have that equipment at home sadly)23:15
mjwmntmn, Apart from that silly accident I love it! It is beautiful. It just works. It already has been a conversation starter (at appropriate 1.5 meters of course). The manual is a dream. I am a happy kid again (when machines actually came with schematics like this...)23:17
ex-parrotI am so excited to hear people being happy with it :)23:18
ex-parrotalex4nder: that would be quite a trip for me :P23:19
alex4nderex-parrot: yah, it's like a 10 minute drive for me23:19
alex4nderbut I don't know where I'll be with my late batch23:19
ex-parrothandy23:19
ex-parrothmm google maps says it's only a 20 hour flight from here23:20
ex-parrotplus 2 weeks in quarantine on arrival back in NZ :P23:20
alex4nderhaha yah23:21
mjwmntmn, Speaking of waiting times. The crowdsupply website currently says "Orders placed now ship May 18, 2021" is that still current/possible?23:23

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