2020-11-24.log

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+ orzel (~orzel@2a01:e0a:df:6ba0:1cfe:b463:3789:a442)01:38
orzelhello. if i open ./reform2-motherboard-pcb/reform2-motherboard.pro, i got a kicad error about a missing lib SSD1306_OLED-0.91-128x32.lib01:40
orzelthere's an empty reform2-oled-pcb/KiCad-SSD1306_OLED-0.91-128x32/01:40
orzelwhich is probably related01:40
orzelThat looks like a file was forgotten in some commit. Does it not ?01:40
mntmnorzel: hmm, that is not part of the motherboard01:53
orzelsorry, i meant ./reform2-oled-pcb/reform2-oled.pro01:55
orzelcopy/pasted the wrong line :/01:55
orzel(obviously that was the old pcb!)01:55
orzeloled01:55
mntmnorzel: if i open reform2-oled.sch on another computer, it shows me "Project Rescue Helper", i click OK01:56
mntmnand then it works. for you it doesn't? which kicad version?01:57
orzeli had this rescue stuff too01:57
orzeli'm using kicad 5.1.7 (under linux)01:57
orzelFresh git checkout from ... one hour ago01:57
mntmnhmm correct, the folder is not there somehow https://source.mntmn.com/MNT/reform/src/branch/master/reform2-oled-pcb01:59
mntmnah maybe that was another nested git repo02:00
mntmnorzel: please try again, i fixed it i think02:02
orzelyeps, git pull brought me those files02:04
orzeland i dont have the error anymore02:05
orzeli even have a small lcd on the 3d view in pcbnew02:05
orzelGuys, you love to make internal usb peripherals with atmega, full blown with crystal and all..02:06
mntmncool02:06
mntmnorzel: what do you mean? :302:06
orzelalmost all pcbs are mainly an atmega acting (i guess) as a usb slave for the motherboard.02:08
mntmnyou mean a usb device.02:09
mntmnthese are the input devices.02:09
mntmnkeyboard, trackball, trackpad.02:09
orzelreform2-trackpad-pcb for ex, looks like a spi-to-usb, doesn't it ? Couldn't the spi be rooted directly to the mainboard ?02:09
mntmnorzel: https://mntre.com/reform2-handbook/system.html02:10
orzel(naive question, i just had a quick look)02:10
mntmnorzel: take a look at the big picture.02:10
orzeli am02:10
orzelvery interesting :)02:10
mntmnthe idea is to have a modular system with interchangeable input devices. you can also use the keyboard externally and so on.02:11
orzelthe keyboard doesn't includ the oled display anymore, it's a separate board now. no ?02:13
ex-parrotoh this is a handy document02:20
mntmnorzel: it is a separate little board, yes. it never included the oled directly.02:20
orzelI had never heard of the neo/neo2 keyboard02:29
- oomono (QUIT: Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) (uid328183@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wrdgdpqwwnysbnum)02:32
mntmnnew reform-system-image branch is up with new cleaner and much smaller patch stack https://source.mntmn.com/MNT/reform-system-image/src/branch/reform2-upstreaming/reform2-imx8mq/template-kernel/patches02:37
ex-parrot\o/02:38
ex-parrotexciting02:38
ex-parrotI'm really glad you're making a push to get everyting upstreamed02:38
mntmnex-parrot: has to!02:42
ex-parrotit does feel like often projects get really close then there's always a couple of peripherals that don't land02:42
ex-parrotlike I think the LCD contorller for novena never landed02:43
orzelHow do you 'laser engrave' keycaps ? Not by yourself ??02:43
mntmnorzel: with a epilog mini 18 co2 laser02:49
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orzelok. didn't know that (either). ~400e. That's ok !03:24
orzelStill reading the crowdsupply page. Lot of very interesting information, very well written. I'm impressed.03:38
orzelmntmn: out of curiosity, how do you sync the github mirrors of your repositories ? cron with git push.. ? some git hook ?03:51
orzelGee... i'm frightened at the routing of such a thing04:13
orzelWhat about the boot process ? Everything is handled on the SoM ? Is there a kind of bios ?04:38
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mntmnorzel: the epilog mini 18 costs around 8000-9000e (used)12:47
mntmnorzel: the sync of the git repos is manual, i just push to both12:47
mntmnorzel: the bootloader is u-boot12:47
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+ orzel (~orzel@2a01:e0a:df:6ba0:1cfe:b463:3789:a442)17:27
orzelmntmn: ok :-)17:34
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mntmnfirst batch of kernel patches for mnt reform submitted.19:06
swivelo/19:06
FUZxxlmntmn: Reform with Apple Silicon when :-P19:08
swivelFUZxxl: that would have to be renamed to Deform19:42
FUZxxlswivel: lol19:49
mntmnFUZxxl: i find this all super closed chip design stuff super depressing tbh.20:00
mntmnwe need some well documented 5nm chips.20:00
FUZxxlindeed!20:01
mntmni hope NXP will jump on some smaller processes and also hope we'll get some good stuff from the RISC-V ecosystem.20:02
mntmnnext year.20:02
FUZxxlwould be cool.  I'm not too much of a RISC-V fan, but I do like competition on the CPU market20:03
swivelACTION is looking forward to a reform-compatible SoC upgrade with more RAM20:05
mntmnswivel: it's already in development.20:05
swivelmntmn: great news!20:05
mntmni also wrote an update on this like 2 weeks ago but it got lost in crowd supply's queue.20:06
mntmni might publish it soon on our own website20:06
swivelMy attention has been elsewhere for a few months I must admit too...20:06
FUZxxlif such an upgrade comes, it's very likely that I'm going to buy a Reform20:10
FUZxxlMy old trusty Dell is still nice, but the keyboard is crapping out and the case is slowly disassembling itself20:10
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- oomono (QUIT: Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) (uid328183@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rqunosjwjxutsesq)21:33
swivelmntmn: is the SoC upgrade already in development already another nitrogen part?21:44
orzelwe want more details :)21:50
swivels/nitrogen/bondary devices/ perhaps might be the better question to ask21:52
mntmnhere are some more details https://nlnet.nl/project/MNT-Reform/22:35
Asmadeus"first batch of kernel patches for mnt reform submitted." > is there more than the dts? would have expected the soc to be rather well supported with it being the same as librem5's22:43
KoodaI can’t wait for a RISC-V SoC on the Reform :)22:45
Kooda(even on FPGA it would be great)22:46
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- Neelfyn (QUIT: Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) (uid180106@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vsottmibzrmnqzce)23:04
mntmnAsmadeus: yes, i'll try to collect the links23:31
mntmnhere goes:23:32
mntmnhttps://lkml.org/lkml/2020/11/24/99123:32
mntmnhttps://lkml.org/lkml/2020/11/24/99423:32
mntmnhttps://lkml.org/lkml/2020/11/24/99723:32
mntmnhttps://lkml.org/lkml/2020/11/24/100123:33
mntmnhttps://lkml.org/lkml/2020/11/24/100223:33
mntmnhttps://lkml.org/lkml/2020/11/24/100423:33
mntmnbut there's ~2 more that i need to tweak a bit more tomorrow and then submit.23:33

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