2020-08-06.log

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lastebilwell, that was easy (:13:08
lastebilonly issue was my first init script actually sort of ... tried to kill init, so I used the 'standard' runit init, and loaded the modules in rc.local13:09
lastebilbut yes, it's basically ... "untar, copy modules, and go"13:09
lastebiland if you're me13:09
lastebilyou load my keymap (:13:09
mntmnlastebil: cool, so you have void running incl. display?13:29
mntmnthat's awesome13:29
lastebilpic on icosahedron (:13:31
- Valkyria (QUIT: Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)) (~Valkyria@85-76-97-109-nat.elisa-mobile.fi)14:01
mntmnlastebil: awesome!14:14
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lastebilI mistakenly left out the step of copying the modules, but um, I can add that in a proper post with actual steps that is not a toot (:15:26
lastebilback from doctor so now let's install build stuff and build that userland (:15:26
mntmncool!!15:26
lastebilwell, ok, updating the image from the 2019 'current' tarball (:15:27
lastebilI'll see if devuan has a aarch64 base tarball, I think it does, and if so, I'll post 'how to do this for devuan' also.15:27
lastebilof course could also do that for alpine but ... will leave that as an excercise for the readers (:15:28
lastebilok devuan doesn't have a aarch64 tarball that I see laying around in the usual place (think it's documented tho) so I work on void for now, as that's what I generally use (:15:30
erlehmannlastebil, does this void system of you have an encrypted root filesystem?15:39
lastebilnot YET.15:42
lastebilI _could_ do that. I opted for "let's make it work" first.15:42
lastebilto do it I'd basically mimic mntmn's script that he's using for his.15:43
lastebil(with some changes for, well, booting ... it... somehow. Hmm. Yes that IS a challenge. Let's see how we do that AFTER userland.)15:43
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mntmnyeah16:00
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lastebilsomeone asked how fast it was so I'm running unixbench, I should have done that AFTER getting userland built and tested (:16:25
mntmnhaha16:34
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+ EricShmart (~EricShmar@119-83-181-166.mobile.uscc.net)22:18
EricShmartI was wondering how the nitrogen8m board would compare performancewise to my old x200?22:28
EricShmartNot that performance matters to me, just curious about what I should expect.22:29
technomancyman I thought it was a jokey stereotype that everyone buying a reform uses a 2008 thinkpad but I guess not22:29
mntmnhard to compare because i don't know how old thinkpads perform.22:30
swivelnever underestimate the power of good taste22:30
sbatesand a good keyboard22:41
EricShmartI'll be back shortly with some numbers. I don't think it would be a fair test with everything open.22:45
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swivelit's not so much an old thinkpad vs. reform comparison, it's penryn era core2duo vs. imx8m, no?22:53
EricShmartWith sysbench cpu --threads=1 run, events per second:   793.15. So a single core of Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU L9400  @ 1.86GHz is better than a single Cortex-A53?22:55
EricShmartby a marginal amount22:56
swivelisn't the x200 2.26Ghz - 2.66Ghz ?23:00
mntmnsysbench is not a good test23:00
mntmn(even if i did it myself for fun recently)23:00
mntmnbut i was educated by multiple people that the results are not really useful to compare anything23:00
mntmni think the built in 7z benchmark was pretty ok?23:01
mntmninvocation: 7z b23:01
mntmnalso glmark2 is interesting23:02
EricShmartI'm running a full desktop in the background, will that hurt things?23:03
mntmnno idea, i just did a test while running on sway, also en emacs is flying around. on reform. my Tot: row is   347 1139 4038. but this is with ondemand governor23:05
mntmnnow running with performance governor...23:05
EricShmartTot:             184   2035   373223:07
mntmndoesn't make a big difference. 349 1142 406723:07
mntmnEricShmart: ok, so your single core perf is better23:08
mntmnEricShmart: but total perf of imx8m is slightly better than your 2 cores23:08
mntmnmind that cortex-a53 is an extremely simple/small in-order, energy-efficient core.23:08
EricShmartThat sounds pretty good to me. This runs pretty hot.23:08
EricShmartThank you.23:08
EricShmartBye!23:09
mntmncya23:09
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swivel14nm vs 45nm23:26
mntmnswivel: i.MX8M is 28nm23:35
mntmnmini, nano and plus are 14nm23:36
mntmni think this table is pretty new https://www.nxp.com/docs/en/supporting-information/IMX8LAYERCMPR.pdf23:39
ex-parrotthis year is just barreling forwards23:57
ex-parrotat an alarming rate23:57

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